User talk:Meelar/archive 5

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Adminship

Thanks, and no objection from me. --Lowellian 23:14, May 17, 2004 (UTC)


Thanks so much for the note -- it means a lot. The stress has been getting to me....perhaps a brief wikivacation is in my near future. But good people like you, and your kind words, will definitely bring me back before too long. Keep up the fine work, and thank you once again for your note: Jwrosenzweig 17:54, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

Please don't revert pages without explanation. This violates longstanding policy, according to the arbitration committee. anthony (see warning) 22:03, 20 May 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for the tip. I've since discovered how to see a user's edit history so I should be able to better judge that sort of thing in future :) CorvusCorax 13:36, 21 May 2004 (UTC)


"Or it simply recognizes that other countries have different attitudes towards foreign involvement in politics, and applies to each country the standards which it desires, therefore respecting their laws, culture, and sovereignty"

My impression is that the US government cares very little, in general, for other countries' laws, culture, and sovereignty, and that it applies double standards.

In any case, it has not, in the past, refrained from funding dubious groups to fight an alleged communist threat (see the NED's involvement in the funding of UNI); the Clinton administration did not hesitate either before meddling in other countries' internal policies to push the agenda of the Church of Scientology and other groups (who probably funded their political activities). David.Monniaux 15:01, 25 May 2004 (UTC)

Follow-ups on my page. Easier to have everything in one place. David.Monniaux 15:25, 25 May 2004 (UTC)

Halfman

Why are you restoring nonsense articles? RickK 04:30, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

My position on advertising

You said on Village Pump that I said on the mailing list that Wikipedia will never have ads. I don't think that's completely accurate, although if I did say it, I'd like to review what I did say.

What I have said is that I am personally opposed to ads, and that I don't think we will ever have ads. But I have tried to be scrupulously careful to never say never, because it is hard to say what the future will bring.

The thought experiment that I like to pose to people here is this: suppose we get to the point where advertising could generate $1 million a month in revenue. And suppose that money could be directed to getting Wikipedia distributed on CD-ROM and paper format to third world countries. Would we choose to turn down that opportunity to do good?

I should add here that I do think this is only a thought experiment, because in fact, I think that by remaining ad free, we actually increase rather than decrease the total revenue potential in the form of donations, grants, etc.

I remain firmly opposed to ads, and don't foresee any change to that position. But I am careful to never say never, because I feel too great a responsibility to our primary mission. If the community demanded it, based on the sort of scenario I outline above (i.e. we could raise vast sums for our fundamental charitable purpose), and I were proved wrong over a couple of years trying to raise money in other ways, I would back down from my opposition. Jimbo Wales 11:37, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

Protecting Anti-American sentiment and support for learning project (http://amor.rz.hu-berlin.de/~h0444e1w/vokeng.htm)

Hi Meelar, you protected Anti-American sentiment but I did not see it on the list of protected pages, so I added it. I also added a note to the discussion page.

To change the subject to something more constructive, would you be interested in a project about learning that I describe on my page and that is discussed on my talk page? Get-back-world-respect 12:58, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

Answer to you on my talk page. Get-back-world-respect 21:46, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

Berg

Sure - appreciate your effort on this page. Mark Richards 21:53, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

A great improvement! Mark Richards 01:08, 27 May 2004 (UTC)

Meelar Conspiracy

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Mark_Richards&diff=3743123&oldid=3741659 says "Would you mind looking over Energybone's latest version? I've used up both my reverts and my willingness to deal with him for the time being. Thanks, Meelar 21:47, 26 May 2004 (UTC)"

Used up both your reverts? Meelar, what exactly are you trying to pull here? Is it your intention to "use up" your reverts to dogpile on me by requesting that your friends revert for you? That's an obvious violation of wikipedia policy, Meelar, and I insist you stop this childish game. You are not the sole arbiter of truth. If you "use up" your reverts you're simply stuck with it. Wait twenty-four hours like the rest of us do. NO MORE CHEATING, MEELAR. Energybone 01:18, 27 May 2004 (UTC)

Politeness

Meelar — I just came across your patience and politeness in your interactions with User:Energybone and was really impressed. I appreciate your attitude. — Matt 11:41, 27 May 2004 (UTC)

Quaggaism

What is quaggaism?? 66.245.6.21 00:45, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

Residence Bill

Why did you edit my page by taking out the text of the residence bill and my external link? --Jd4508 01:47, 29 May 2004 (UTC)

The History of the Standard Oil Company

Thanks for making a decent stub of it. I was actually about to do it myself, but you beat me to it... Fredrik (talk) 18:27, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Not being from the US, I hadn't even heard of it before (found it via the random page function). You learn something every day :) - Fredrik (talk) 18:33, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Wyatt Cooper

Beats me, but he married Gloria Vanderbilt (heiress to New York railroad fortune) and fathered Anderson Cooper, the greatest TV personality of all time. I didn't write the article--just redirected to it. I actually think he was an actor (based on Google search results). Wikisux 00:31, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Speedy/Admin/Congrats

Thanks for the kind words. Yes, I know I can do speedies now, and have done several today. As for "Religious Persecution in China", there are three things. First, I didn't really want my first deletion to be of a potentially salvageable article. Second, I felt kinda bad because, if it had shown up last week, while I was still unemployed (and spending 8-12 hrs/day on WP), there's a fair chance I would have done enuf research to make at least a couple-paragraph stub, then move it to the proper spelling. Third, as I believe I stated during voting, at least until I get more experience, I will probably delete obvious nonsense myself, but just tag more borderline cases for a "second opinion". Niteowlneils 05:13, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcome

Thanks for noticing my Billboard (advertising) article and adding a the culture jamming bit to it, that was cool. I hope you don't mind, I shuffled the new bit around for narrative flow and expanded it with with a billboard prank I noticed on the web and merged in the billboard liberation See Also that was at the bottom of the page that I hadn't quite figured out what to do with. I suspect billboard liberation will get its own entry at some point. Obviously feel free to edit and comment as you see fit, it's not my article, it's ours :)

This being my first visit to this community it's nice to have a warm welcome.

 Jkeiser 16:30, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for the nomination too! Wow! --Jkeiser 22:17, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
FYI, the image changes look good to me, thanks much for doing that work. I have found a billboard I plan to snap a picture of for the Advertising Style section, but I agree, the work still has enough pictures to keep the reader's interest. --Jkeiser 05:58, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Copyvio

Meelar, thanks for the help with the tags on Protocol Analyzer. However, what is the policy with copyvios? Will the article eventually get deleted? If it stays around as is, won't it still be helping the offending site's pagerank, thus making the vandalism worth it? - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 17:52, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)

Timestamping welcome messages

I remember intending to put that on my welcome messages at one point, and I had to think a bit to remember why I ended up not doing it. I use the subst: method and templates to insert my messages rather than copying and pasting the whole thing. The problem is that four tildes get expanded on the template page and then the timestamp that gets substituted is the one that was originally put on the template. However, I've recently been having trouble with the nowiki tags in my templates and had to create a work-around for that, so perhaps it would be a better idea to go low-tech and just copy and paste the messages. Still, that means a little more work switching back and forth between the two versions of the welcome I have. I'll think about what I can do and see what works best.  – Jrdioko (Talk) 14:53, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I do agree that it would be nice to get in there, but I played around with a few different methods and none of them seems to work. Oh well, the timestamp is always in the history.  – Jrdioko (Talk) 05:27, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Your edits to Luigi can be disagreed with. Like his twin (Mario), he is a plumber from Brooklyn who was working in the sewers before he became acquainted with the Mushroom and Koopa kingdoms. This is a piece of argument for you, and arguments and different perceptions must result in deletion of certain info, especially where points can be made to refute. This is what is conglomerated from the early history of the Mario Bros. Fiction was not designed to be built into encyclopedias during the old days, when the rules were tight. And where fiction is concerned, unless some info is so valuable not to be removed, it can be removed without further notice, and I think it's invaluable and thus incorrect. --Marcus2

Ohhh, please. This is fiction, not a biography (referring to last quote made on my talk). --Marcus2

How does fiction apply? I have given you my contradictory argument already. Which magazine in the world would want to contradict fiction? Public criticism is far more in vogue, like mine, and I may write to Nintendo if I do so please. --Marcus2

Do you know that the U.S. Constitution has an elastic clause. That means new exceptions or amendments can be added to the Constitution. Though Wikipedia has this thing about using sources, I don't think it is necessary to apply with all articles. I think that an exception should be made in case of fiction, that is, of one sort or another. I criticize that "source" rule when it applies to fiction. In this case logical reasoning has the power to criticize. And my voice is just as logical as a voice from any source --Marcus2

drflet image

Thanks for claryfying use. I'd like to release it here, so I will update the classification.

Common Era edit

Thanks for directing the redirect to the relevent part of the AD article. I didn't think of that, as a matter of fact I don't believe I knew how to do that. :) I hope you'll watch the page in case disscussion is resumed, or the anon user reverts our edits. Anyway again, thanks!

-JCarriker 07:12, Jun 13, 2004 (UTC)

Moving to reference desk

Hello. I just moved a question asked by an anon user on an article page to WP:RD and deleted the page when I noticed you'd done the same thing directly above me. Is there a policy/recommended course of action for these cases? I assumed I could delete the article immediately and just leave a message on the user's talk page, but I suppose it's a good idea to leave the page around for a while in case the user goes there and doesn't check his messages. I was just wondering if there's something in the deletion policies that I missed that addresses this or if it's up to the sysop to decide what's best. With that said, I'll do the one-week thing in the future, that sounds like the best idea. Thanks!  – Jrdioko (Talk) 04:23, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I'll write an article on it as it refers to more than Scarman - it's a member of the House of lords who is not in any party. Secretlondon 20:48, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

  • There was already an article Cross-bencher which someone pointed out after I wrote a stub. Hope this helps. Secretlondon 21:13, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Skin changing

from the pump

Recently, I've noticed a few changes. For example, instead of nonexistent pages appearing in red, they've only got a red question mark next to them. Also, links are no longer underlined. At the same time, section editing stopped working. Why is this happening, and how can I change it back? Meelar 22:49, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

The things you noticed are preference settings, you can change them back. -- Gabriel Wicke 08:56, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)


A problem

from the pump

Every time I go to a different page, a message flashes up, saying "A Runtime Error has occurred. Do you wish to Debug? Line 363 Error: 'ta' is undefined". What's causing this, and how can I fix it? It only happens when I use the "standard" skin. Meelar 05:43, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)

It sounds like it could be your browser. What browser do you use? →Raul654 05:53, Jun 12, 2004 (UTC)

IE 6.0. Meelar 05:56, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)

That is the debug feature that is turned on by default. The problem it probably the css, if you are only getting it on the standard skin. I suggest you google for the answer. Hope this helps. Burgundavia 12:27, Jun 12, 2004 (UTC)
Please reload (ctrl-f5) the page to get the latest js. It was changed a few days ago. Same applies to the diff rendering (if the font size is larger and the red colour is missing). -- Gabriel Wicke 17:06, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Reloading didn't help for me, I had to Delete my cache (ALT+T ALT+O ALT+F <ENTER>) to make it go away, even tho' I have IE set to load the page "every time", instead of the default "automatically". Niteowlneils 02:47, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

IE's browser cache handling is famous for it's brokenness. During testing i also sometimes got an older version after an initially successful refresh, not sure what's going on in IE but it sure ain't pretty. -- Gabriel Wicke 09:03, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I guess--on one of my other systems, even deleting the cache didn't work--I had to re-boot the computer to make the errors go away. Niteowlneils 20:05, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

heh

I think we're stepping on each other.  :) I'll leave strategic bombing alone for a few hours. I need to get some work done anyway. Stargoat 20:00, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

re Phil Gingrey

a) there is no entry for Rick Crawford as yet b) use "some controversy" to characterize Guantanamo is risible understatement-perhaps intended as dark humor and if so very inappropriate

Wealth of Nations

I started several stubs - like "Wealth of Nations: Volume One". I see that they have been deleted and the text of which has been more or less incorporated into the body of the work. The explanation given was that the articles were too short to be on any value.
? what do I not understand about stubs? Take for example "The United States", at what point would 'California' warrent an article of its own?
? is there anything wrong with the title? the colin? if so, what would be an appropriate title.
Thankyou for any help you can give me.
P.S. I feel that the present layout with an 'outline' section clutters the article as a whole, yet I want to leave the material posted in some format, as I appreciate the many contributions several people have made.

George W. Bush page vandalism

When will people come to their senses and stop vandalizing the article on George W. Bush? --Marcus2

It looks like the vandalism on the George W. Bush page has finally started to die down. --Marcus2

"enrolment"

Just FYI, the dictionary shows "enrolment" is an alternative spelling of "enrollment" (and Google shows it to be three times more common within ox.ac.uk), so there was no need to change it in Academic dress of Oxford University. Then again, it's not really worth reverting, either, but I thought you might like to know. Marnanel 22:23, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Welcoming Committee

You're on the Welcoming Committee, right? Then welcome me already!

Bartkusa -- 21 Jun 2004

Redirects

Thank you for the tip; that was very helpful. TheCustomOfLife 15:59, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Gay Icons

I'm having a bit of trouble at my talk page. I believe Grace Kelly should be placed in Category:Gay icons and I am now in a semi-edit war with User:Rienzo. Please help! TheCustomOfLife 18:46, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip

I already fixed the Meinberg article and added another meaning, I hope that its OK now. Thank you for your assistance! --Hgerstung 14:30, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

MBV Image

I guess I didn't really read the image stuff. I thought it would be considered public domain b/c it's a press photo (sole purpose is to be distributed). I will read up on exactly what a public domain image is right now. Thanks.

Greetings from an old friend

Hi Meelar! I definitely agree with you on deleting on the article, Elvis Presley's influence. Now there's another article you might want to put on the votes for deletion, The Beatles' influence, which also doesn't deserve to be an article separate from the Beatles' main article. In fact, it was the existence of this article that was the reason I created the one on Elvis Presley. What is your view? --Marcus2

Hello again. From now on, let's discuss everything about a topic on one page. Go to my talk page for further discussion. All the best. --Marcus2

RFA

You might be interested in a comment I made on the RFA page regarding dwindrim. I suggest you look into it. Kevin Baas 16:53, 2004 Jun 24 (UTC)

Judge Judy

Reply on my talk page. Mike H 17:59, Jun 24, 2004 (UTC)

Gingrey

I did my take on Gingrey. FWIW. :) Have fun! jengod 19:30, Jun 24, 2004 (UTC)

Speaker of the House

"(The Speaker need not, by the Constitutional provision stated above, be a member of the House, but to date has always been one)" (see Speaker of the United States House of Representatives) is incorrect. And while he was a member of the house when he was elected, "Foley became the first sitting speaker of the House to lose his bid for re-election since William Pennington (Whig-N.J.) in 1860." (see Tom Foley). With the latter statement, it may be logically deduced that if Tom Foley is Speaker of the House and is NOT re-elected by his constituents, he is the Speaker without being a member of the House, contrary to what is stated above.

I may be missing something though, send me a message if I am.

Oops. I didn't know that. Thanks for the comment! <===== This was added later

Categories

Hi there!

Thank you for your work on Category:Seattleites. One small thing, though. When you're categorizing people, remember to pipe the person's name in "Last, First Middle" format. For example, [[Category:Seattleites|Holkins, Jerry]]. This will cause the person to be alphabetized correctly on the category page.

Regards, ShadowDragon 20:37, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Home

I noticed that you're from Chicago. What part?

Hello, Meelar. Thanks for your kind note when I first registered.

I've upload several photos I took while in Xi'an at the Terracotta Army archeological museum and then linked those into the writeup on the terracotta army in the Wikipedia.

I have others I will upload as time permits.

Richard Chambers

Ta bu shi da yu

Have added the {{fairuse}} tag to the images you requested! -- Ta bu shi da yu


Thank you so much for reverting the vandalism on my old user page. Cheers. Marcus2 17:43, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia's "Votes for deletion page" has apparently been locked. Can you tell me why this is? Marcus2 20:39, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)


It seems our friend is back, this time at Charlton Heston with a newly created username just to edit that article. Could you possibly protect that article? I don't want to as I have been reverting it. --"DICK" CHENEY 13:02, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I believe alzheimers is mispelled (final word in the political beliefs section). I also do not wish to edit this article. FactsOnly 17:38, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the note!FactsOnly 17:54, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Supercarrier page

Please stop enlarging the image on Supercarrier. Not everyone has a jumbo screen. If they want the larger image, they can click on it. The smaller (320px) is a good compromise size. -Joseph 18:11, 2004 Jun 29 (UTC)

Behold!

Meelar, it's my thought that Wikipedia works best when the newspaper "inverted pyramid" style is used, where an article starts with the most important information. That's why, in order to prevent any ambiguity for more credulous readers, I wanted to indicate, up front, that a Beholder is fictional. But maybe I'm wrong. What's your objection to noting that the Beholder doesn't actually exist? (Remember, not everyone is as acquainted with D&D as you are, and might, if not carefully reading, think that a beholder is real.) -- orthogonal 01:37, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

User:CML

I think it may be time to ban this user. After receiving warnings on his talk page from you, me, and Davodd about his vandalism, he then told me to "get a life" on my talk page and told Davodd on his talk page:

:What the hell do you care what I submit? OH MY GOD ITS NOT NEUTRAL ITS NOT ON A FAMOUS TOPIC I BETTER VOTE TO DELETE IT OMG VANDALISM!!! THE HORROR!!
:Get out of my pages, and take your condescending tone and shove it up your ass. You will have more fun playing by the rules kiddo!!1 Imbecile

An examination of his edit history shows nothing but vandalism. He has recreated "Jeffrey T. Nomura" at twice after it was deleted and a similar page for Daniel Cerquitella also had to be deleted multiple times.

It is my understanding that "Sysops may also permanently block user accounts that do essentially nothing but vandalism." I urge you to exercise your prerogative in this case. If you would rather that this matter be referred to "Requests for comment," I'd be happy to do it. Chris N. 07:39, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the quick action, Meelar. Hopefully, the 48-hour ban will work. Chris N. 01:17, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)

My Pet Goat

Meelar, good catches on My Pet Goat. Thanks! -- orthogonal 15:15, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks!

Didn't see that! Mark Richards 17:13, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Ballet/Ballerina

To my mind, ballerina is a sufficiently distinct concept to require a separate article, also discussing such things as ballet training, cultural associations and connotations, and the gender/image issues. I was just so shocked about our lack of coverage in the area that I had to do *something* about it, and despite the fact that I took a semester of ballet in college, I don't remember enough to actually write anything off the top of my head. Sooner or later I'll dig through the library and work on those subjects in Wikipedia, but that may be a bit. -- Seth Ilys 22:31, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Ted Kennedy's driving record VFD

Hiya, saw your message on Talk:Ted Kennedy's driving record. I've noticed on more than a couple of occasions recently that VFD decisions (both keeps and deletes) are being implemented without the delete discussion being put anywhere. Unfortunately the VFD page changes so frequently that it's a right pain to try to dig through the history to see who is mis-handling it. I presume that the way things are supposed to work is:

..right? —Stormie 00:56, Jul 1, 2004 (UTC)

Hi Meelar.. looks like it got lost in the process of User:Michael Snow fixing the mass page duplication here (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion&diff=4338850&oldid=4338806). I will re-add it, since there was no consensus whatsoever at the time it was deleted. —Stormie 01:08, Jul 1, 2004 (UTC)
All fixed up now! Glad I could help! —Stormie 01:14, Jul 1, 2004 (UTC)

Vandal

Can you explain why I should be a vandal? European Union is ranked 1st, according to the ranking pages with 11.50 Billions $ on the European Union page it is WROTE "1st" in the relative field.

SO IN WHAT I WAS WRONG updating the correct values in USA page, please tell me, I'd be very glad to know Thanks User:Aytharn 2:40 2 July CET

SO ANYWAY, without any hard feeling, the values you reverted are WRONG and not updated to values of 2003... we are in Y2k4 do you remember? 2k2 is passed! User:Aytharn 2:57 2 July CET

Well, that still doesn't make the EU a country. And can I have an actual source for that number? I don't mean to cause trouble, I just want to make sure. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 01:01, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Try www.wikipedia.org... it's a cool site, find "U.S.A." and follow the link "ranked 1st" in GDP field... User:Aytharn 9:14 2 July CET
Would have to agree with Meelar. While the EU might be ranked first in cumulative GDP (I don't know) the fact is that the EU is not a country. That would be like ranking the UK fifth after California, it might have the GDP to be ranked fourth but California's part of the US. Compare like with like, US with Germany or NAFTA with EU.

SPLC site

I am not an editor of the SPLC article in Wikipedia. However, when I was adding the category "social justice" to a number of articles I came to the SPLC entry and noticed it appeared to be heavily biased. Later the article was edited by another party and made more neutral and much shorter. You have alerted me to the fact that the article has been restored to its biased content. I am new to this Wikipedia stuff so I am not familiar with the protocol. User:Montanean 1 Jul 2004

Thanks for your support

I just wanted to thank you for your support in my recent nomination to become an administrator. I really appreciate it. blankfaze | •• (http://www.livejournal.com/users/blankfaze) | •• 14:29, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your help

And for your fix on Ruga. I need to read a lot :-) User:Hidaspal 19:25 6 Jul 2006 (CET)

Thanks for your help

Oops. Thanks for the reminder re redirect. I wondered why it wasn't working.... gzuckier 7/6/2004

Thanks for your support. I think I'll just abandon FF. We'll see what becomes of its entry. Thanks again! Ben-Arba 02:22, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you very much for your kind words of welcome. I'll have a read of the tutorials and help bits. I'm enjoying my time here already! --Paulus 03:18, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I, too, would like to Thank You

Thanks for the welcome. This is such a cool site. So far everyone has been very helpful, especially Moran. MatthewRed 09:14, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)


Hi, regarding The Strathroy Turkey Festival. I was going back to put the text in that I had deleted. I was the one who created the entry in the first place, so it's not quite as bad as it seems :) --Andrew 19:27, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

John Boone and the Mars character pages

Meelar, the writing's on the wall for these pages. It looks like you're the only one voting to keep the pages as separate. All the contributors have made good points:

  1. Where is the evidence that characters like 'John Boone' have influenceced any other literary works? Is he cited in other SF novels? No. Has he emerged as some kind of 'archetype' that pops up in SF literature elsewhere. No. His influence is confined to the Mars Trilogy. Thus he is of minimal encyclopedic interest.
  2. There is nothing more you can find out about John Boone on wikipedia than you could find out by reading the novels. Thus how is this contributing to 'human knowledge'? Encyclopedias are supposed to condense information from a range of sources about a topic. But there is only one source of information about Johnn Boone: The Mars trilogy.
  3. I think you're wasting your time writing a column on Boone for this encyclopedia. By all means write a fan page for Boone and the others, and host it somewhere else. I'd be the first to read it. I like the characters too. But they don't deserve a separate enyclopedic entry unless you can prove evidence of intertextual influence on other literary works.

Sorry to rain on your parade. But it's apparent from the comments that there's no place for these pages on wikipedia as separate entities. Mercurius 00:41, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Personal page deletion

Thanks for zxing that page of mine for me. I suppose I could do that myself, but Wikipedia:Speedy_deletions#Deletion_of_personal_pages says that it's recommended you let someone else do it... and as I've only been admin for a little while now, I'm doing things as many thing as I can *by the book*. ;-) blankfaze | •• (http://www.livejournal.com/users/blankfaze) | •• 00:56, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Mark Warner's portrait

In regards to the recent comment, the site I found it on is an official state site and seems to encourage the posting of the image on other pages.

Follow the link to it here: [1] (http://www.vipnet.org/governorwarner/)

Thanks for the welcome!

Hello Meelar! Thanks for welcoming me in such a friendly manner. It's nice to feel welcomed once in a while :)

Logo Question

I'm a little confused under what tag the following image would fall into:

[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sf_academy.jpg)

It appeared on the "Star Trek" television series on multiple occasions, and the image itself isn't copyrighted to my knowledge. However, this version was re-drawn by another person, and I have her tentative permission to use it.

Help appreciated!

Olympic Games

Hi Meelar, thanks for your comments on Olympic Games at the WP:FAC page. Your notes are mostly clear, but I left a reply there with a return question for you. Regards, Jeronimo 06:37, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

FWBOarticle=====

Thank you. My first entry seems to be going in the way of delete war. :D I will improve eventually. And I will probably re-registere with more appropriate username.

Much Better!!

Thank you, Meeler! It looks much better and I now understand how a biography should look. Quick question. How may I help as a visitor when there is a warning message for size on someone's talk page? MatthewRed 23:47, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC) MatthewRed 23:47, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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