User talk:Rrjanbiah

Rajesh, POV and all is part of Democracy. Every one is in a Gödel's world. So, I may not have the same world view as yours and you as mine. Nobody is absolutely right or absolutely wrong. Wikisleep is not a solution to these problems. Continue your work on Wiki and try to neutralise POV. I want you to reconsider your decision. -- Sundar 05:45, May 27, 2004 (UTC)

All the best for your blogging efforts! -- Sundar 08:13, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)

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How to get images permission?

I could see many people easily get permission to use photos. I want to know if there is any letter templates for that. Why I'm asking is my English is poor and I wanted to use [1] (http://www.sky.com/skynews/picture_gallery/picture_gallery/0,,30500-1111308,00.html) in the article Sari but couldn't even get response. I think, it needs bit diplomacy. Experienced people can share. TIA. --Rrjanbiah 08:46, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Well, my advice on the matter - don't bother. Getting permission is a *HUGE* pain the ass. At best, maybe 1 in 3 requests get answered. I guess I've had some bad experiences. The best advice I can give is - find an alternative to whatever image you have. Government (.gov) pages are a goldmine of good, public domain pictures. →Raul654 08:56, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
i disagree. I reuested a couple of permissions, and maybe 50% got satisfied. I think that's a pretty good turnout. -- Chris 73 | Talk 10:39, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Even if you only get a one in three response, this is still very worth doing. We need more images, and I think the effort of emailing the boilerplate request three times is well worth getting a new GFDL image. Please see the Wikipedia:Boilerplate request for permission page for an example letter you can use to ask for permission on images. Angela. 11:03, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
The picture you want looks like it is from a professional news agency. People that make money with pictures almost never give them away for free. You should ask a private person or at least someone who does not make money with the photos. -- Chris 73 | Talk 11:43, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
How about this (http://www.sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=119988) or this (http://www.sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=96649) one? Both public domain. -- Chris 73 | Talk 11:53, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Agreed. In my experience, potential victims donators have to be targeted pretty carefully even to get a hit rate as high as 1 in 3. Having said that, I agree with Angela, you can get sufficiently efficient at bashing out emails to make it worthwhile. Pcb21| Pete 11:55, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Also remember you can prefix your search at images.google.com with "site:.gov" to make sure only results from .gov websites are returned - massively increasing chances they are PD. Pcb21| Pete 11:57, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I usually use site:.gov OR site:.mil, wich also gets you the military PD pictures -- Chris 73 | Talk 12:31, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Lorks! Great search tip! I thought I knew some snazzy searches, but I didn't know you could restrict it by high level domain like that. Thanks! I know have a little widget allowing me to search only British gov sites ;o) --bodnotbod 22:45, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
Indeed you do, and I know you know, but others might be misled ... UK Government info is generally *not* public domain. It's only the US which is. --Tagishsimon
Oh. No. I didn't. Bah! Not that I really intended to use it to grab images. I tend to focus on getting the words wrong instead. --bodnotbod 23:57, Jun 10, 2004 (UTC)
Wow, this is a really great thread. I always have a hard time finding usable pictures. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:30, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
Are British government images public domain/fair use? RickK 22:50, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
No. They are Crown Copyright or copyright the local authority, &c, and are not available on the same basis as US government.. --Tagishsimon
You are absolutely right that copyright is retained. However the licencing is usually pretty permissive. Check individual publications for the extent of compatibility with GFDL. Pcb21| Pete 23:15, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Note - You can ask Jamesday for more specific stuff, but the Crown-copyright for images made prior to and through World War II have all expired and entered the public domain. →Raul654 23:44, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
Not so - official WW2 pictures and footage were transferred to the Imperial War Museum some years ago and are now the copyright of the IWM. -- ChrisO 16:12, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
It used to be the case that all photographs taken before 1957 had a fixed copyright term of 50 years in the UK. Since the EU copyright harmonisation almost 10 years ago that has changed to non-Crown copyright photos having a copyright term of life of author+70 years. However Crown copyright photographs from pre-1957 still have the 50 year fixed term. That means all Crown copyright photographs from prior to 1954 are public domain in the United Kingdom.
Photographs that are 1957 and later (officially 1 June 1957 and later due to new copyright legislation that year) that are Crown copyright have a fixed copyright term of 125 years fron creation or 50 years from first publication, whichever comes first. That means that a photograph taken in 1958 and not published will not come out of copyright until 2084. However by that time it is likely to have been transferred to the public record office and there is a Crown copyright waiver on such materials which means that it will likely be useable after transfer.
As for IWM material, if it is originally Crown copyright, it will still be Crown copyright. The Crown does not generally assign copyrights. That means that if it is 1953 and earlier it is public domain in the UK. However its status in the US, where the Wikipedia server is located is somewhat unclear. It is in that foggy area on international law that often happens when different copyright regimes interact. Where we are talking about ordinary works then matters are clear, published pre-1923 is public domain in the US, and published works with authors dead earlier than 1934 are public domain in most other countries. However government material is an interesting question. I have sometimes seen places where the US Government claims copyright outside of the US. For example the Naval Vessel Register website explcitly claims to not be public domain outside the US. However, with the adoption of the rule of shortest term by the EU that claim is probably bogus within the EU. Crown copyright materials are even more awkward than US Government materials. There is an active copyright that is protected by HMSO. However its term is very different to non-government copyrights. What is its exact term in the rest of the EU? What is its exact term in the United States? Those are questions that I suspect could only be adequately answered by court cases.
To summarise, in the UK Crown copyright photographs from 1953 and earlier are public domain. From the safest point of view in the United States if they are published then they are subject to the same rules as other British copyright works from that period. If they are unpublished then they are subject to Title 17, sections 302 and 303 of the US Code. Section 303 provides that works unpublished in 1978 shall be the same as for published works created after 1978, but that unpublished works shall not come out of copyright before 31 December 2002. If published between 1978 and 2002 they shall not come out of copyright before 2047. British Government works subject to Crown protection are works for hire under US law. That means they are subject to copyright protection for 95 years after publication or 120 years after creation. That means that all unpublished Crown copyright materials that were made before 1884 are not regarded as having copyright protection under US law. Published Crown copyright materials are subject to the same duration rules as all other US works made for hire. So published Crown copyright materials from pre-1923 are out of copyright.
The only common ground for the two regimes is published materials from pre-1923 and unpublished photographs from pre-1884 (since all other unpublished copyright material is under copyright until 2039 in the UK as a transitional provision similar to the US 2002 provision). However Crown copyright waivers on unpublished records extend the extent of photographic materials that could be used on the Wikipedia. That is the strictest view and is probably the one that would have to be taken by the Wikimedia Foundation. Personally I regard published Crown copyright materials that are more than 50 years old as effectively being public domain worldwide as HMSO are unlikely to pursue action over materials that are not in copyright in the UK (especially with respect to internet sites which are effectively acccessible from anywhere in the world at the same level, meaning that something on a UK server which would not be infringing under UK law is effectively the same as something on a US server that would technically be infringing US law). David Newton 00:47, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
As a reminder, if you cant find a photo, try adding it to Wikipedia:Requested pictures. I often try to add photos from various sources that are requested there -- Chris 73 | Talk 01:35, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for all the people who helped me in this thread. Thanks for Wikipedia:Boilerplate request for permission and Wikipedia:Requested pictures--that is what I was looking for.

BTW, recently the webmaster of [2] (http://ushome.rediff.com/sports/2003/nov/15anna.htm) replied me stating that the photo is from agency and so he can't help. Unfortunately I couldn't understand this jargon ("agency"). Is there anyway to find the agency of the photo?

Also, is there any place in Wikipedia where I can confirm if the image is in PD or conforms to the license? Say for example, I could find the photo in many places [3] (http://www.linuxadvisory.com/forums/post4853.html) --Rrjanbiah 05:37, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

"photo is from agency": News agencies: A company that makes money by selling photos. They do not give it away for free. I have found two free photos of a Sari: This (http://www.sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=119988) and This (http://www.sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=view&id=96649). Can you use these photos?
I also think that to show a Sari (Indian female dress), Anna Kournikova is not the right person in an encyclopedia. An Indian woman would be much more suitable for a picture of a Sari. -- Chris 73 | Talk 06:00, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for the info and photos. I was looking for unexpected personalities on Sari and found Anna and thought her photo is suitable for the article to gather attention. Anyway, the article needs more work and will use the photos that you suggest sometimes later. Thanks --Rrjanbiah 07:50, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Good point you brought about regarding 'class' and 'grade' in Aishwarya Rai. Is there any article where I can find out the school/college-related terminologies in different countries with regards to the terms like grade, class, term, semester, names of vacations, etc. If we don't have this info as yet maybe we need to have it somewhere Jay 12:11, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

edits stats code

I saw a post from a while ago that said you had some code to automatically count the number of edits a user has, but I can't find it. Where is it, and how do I use it? (How do I use SQL on Wikipedia, because I've never used SQL before?) [[User:Mike Storm|Mike Storm (Talk)]] 17:19, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Jayalalitha image

I haven't worked on the Jayalalitha article or anything related to it since May. I uploaded the older image and can see it on the image page but not on the article which is strange. This seems to be a bug. --Hemanshu 12:13, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

re-uploaded my version. --Hemanshu 12:25, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Aryan invasion theory

Hi Rrjanbiah,

Thanks for the warm welcome.

You asked me to write more about the latest DNA theories in the Aryan invasion theory article.

But the short passage of Mitochondrial DNA studies confirming the Aryan invasion theory, that I wrote on the India article, has been deleted by stating that the passage was POV. I had given scientific studies validating the statements and also provided bibliography at the bottom of the article. Still it was deleted.

How am I supposed to write anything at all on the AIT page. Besides, if the people on wikipedia delete passages which are corroborated with scientific data and bibliography, then I think the wikipedia has already been ravaged by people who edit anything that they do not like, by calling it POV. POV seems to be a phrase justifying any kind of edit. Water Fish 20:50, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Dude... you're off-base... there are mitochondrial dna studies affirming genetic admixtures could only have taken thousands of years before the ingress and hence the AIT is 'disproved' was different. Also, major figures like Romila Thapar have come out denying the racial basis of Aryans. The point of this is that there do exist scientific and historical studies arguing the points you attempt to set forth as gospel and hence, these debates are appropriate only on the AIT page itself, not on a synopsis in the India article. The debate is referenced. No one's shutting you up. --LordSuryaofShropshire 00:03, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC)

Kannada page

I noticed that you reversed a lot of the changes made on the "Kannada" page - please mention on the discussion page before making major reversals; I am not sure if it was an accident or not - can you let me know either on the discussion page or on my talk page? (responding here is also fine; I will check back later) - thanks. --ashwatha 06:35, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Sorry, it seems to be an accident. Fixed now. --Rrjanbiah 08:35, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

V-sign Made in London

See Talk:V-sign Philip Baird Shearer

M Karunanidhi

All that is required if you wish to place the atheist categorisation on that page is that you explain why. It may be known truth to you, but other readers of Wikipedia will also want to know why this person falls in that category. It would be helpful if you added a sentence or two to the article saying why he is an atheist, and how this displays itself in his everyday actions. If you can't find the right words, then put the evidence on the talk page, and ask other people to do it for you. Simply placing the categorisation on the article without explanation just seems like a very POV thing to do. All we want is that things are obvious for other readers. Noisy 09:43, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I've asked you before: please substantiate this categorization or remove it. There is no justification within the article, and therefore it appears totally out of place. Once the detail has been added to the article, it may then become apparant that it is the right thing to do, but at the moment it looks wrong. You are obviously in a position to justify this, so please expand the article first: that's all I'm asking. [[User:Noisy|Noisy | Talk]] 07:31, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Please don't remove as it is a known fact. If you don't trust me, do a google test. The article is still stub and it should be cleaned and improved. But, removing content will only weak the article. --Rrjanbiah 07:49, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Are you telling me that you can't justify it yourself? That I have to justify it for you? That doesn't seem right to me. The onus is on you to provide the evidence, not on me. [[User:Noisy|Noisy | Talk]] 07:58, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

First of all, I'm not a professional editor to write the whole articles immediately. I can do what I can do. I have added the well known fact, and will substantiate it once I get time and words. As it is a stub, I don't think it's a big issue.--Rrjanbiah 08:04, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Since you are unable to substantiate this allegation, I have listed it on Wikipedia:Requests for comment. [[User:Noisy|Noisy | Talk]] 20:08, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

India

Please go to talk:India and discuss the matter of the map issue. →Raul654 05:39, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)

tamil

Hi, a personal request. I need to check if my name in Tamil is correct on my user page. Thanks. [[User:Nichalp|¶ ɳȉčḩåḽṗ | ]] 20:03, Sep 24, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for you inputs and support. Actually my name is pronounced "Nikolis", see the Hindi font to get the exact pronounciation. [[User:Nichalp|¶ ɳȉčḩåḽṗ | ]] 20:20, Sep 25, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks mate, for the trouble I've put you through. :) [[User:Nichalp|¶ ɳȉčḩåḽṗ | ]] 18:55, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)

Subramanya Bharathy: Conspiracy theories

Please see my question at Talk:Subramanya Bharathy -- Ragavan

Bharata Natyam article

Hi Rrjanbiah! You said there was "Wikispam" there. Wikispam is of 2 kinds: 1. Advertisements masquerading as articles 2. External link spamming

I wanted to tell you that the presence of 2 external links to different pages (providing different information!) of one web site cannot be considered as "link spamming".

And both links are very useful, by the way.

I feel that there is no need to be over-zealous in "cleaning" Wikipedia.

Regards, Geosammie 04:41, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)


Why did you need to distort the upper image's aspect ratio so that it looks ugly?

Need a help? :-) 217.172.70.182 13:09, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)


Hi Rrjanbiah,

this is what I wrote on the talk page of user:Mirv

By not deleting the article Medha Hari you have promoted spam on the wikipedia. It has shown that a person can retain a spam page on the wikipedia by making more than one user i.d. and create support for his own spam page. This is an ominous sign for the wikipedia. Doesnt the wikipedia have any mechanism to stop people from creating hundreds of I.D. and create support for themselves in vote for deletion. The wikipedia ought to have mechanism for this otherwise it is doom for the wikipedia. Water Fish 16:23, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thanks

உம் வாழ்த்துக்களுக்கு நன்றி! I don't know if I deserve a barn star, but I would strive to contribute in the spirit of Wikipedia.

-- Sundar 09:18, Nov 22, 2004 (UTC)

LTTE

I saw your message in my Talk page. Sorry for the delay to Reply. There is no artical on LTTE in Tamil Wikipedia, and I do not have access to V.Pirapakaran's Photo either. Mayooranathan 08:19, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

India Wikipedia bulletin board

Hey Rrjanbiah, would you be interested in joining the Indian Wikipedians' notice board? Thanks! Feel free to pass the message on to anyone else you think might be interested. --Improv 17:32, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)| talk)

Unverified image

Thanks for uploading the image

I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Kbh3rd&action=edit) where you got the image and I'll tag it for you. Thanks, Kbh3rd 06:40, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

recent anonymous edits to Tamil language

Hi, I saw that you have reverted recent anonymous edits to Tamil language, but it seems you've possibly unintentionally reverted many of valid edits by User:Wikiacc and myself. Or is there some special reason to have HTML tables instead of wikitables? -- Sundar 06:50, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)

Keyman

Sundar, sorry I couldn't concentrate more on the Tamil key in script. Having Sunday alone as holiday in week is bit hecktic; now I have added a beta code at User:Rrjanbiah/monobook.js--it's quite buggy as I'm testing it. I want to shrink the textarea, but couldn't. Also, should work on help and other section. Probably will work on those stuff in this weekend. If you have any suggestions, please inform me. It has to be put up on monobook.js page (may require one or more browser refresh; will pull up keyman on "edit page"); perhaps, I should work on generalised bookmarklet, let me see. -- Rrjanbiah 12:38, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Good work, Rajesh. It's going in the right direction. Take your own time to finish debugging and adding it to the edit page. Do it when you get free time. -- Sundar 10:18, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)

I badly need beta testers:) Can you please lend some time in testing the UI?

You may need to copy User:Rrjanbiah/monobook.js to User:Sundar/monobook.js Clearing the cache or hitting refresh button once or twice should trigger the application. It triggers only in edit pages (one with "action=edit" in URL). I appends another textarea next to this usual textarea. I did a small Firefox browser check to promote it--for IE, it should exit with some alert. (You may delete the code after testing it, so that it doesn't bug you).

The problem is with the UI; it sucks a lot. Basically, it has two texareas (say, keyin for bottom; editor for top). It works in appending mode. If you type any letters in keyin, it appends the transliterated Tamil character in editor. You may also insert characters in editor by positioning the cursor and typing in keyin. If you don't select any texts in editor, keyin should clear the whole texts in it. Right now, if you select any English texts in editor, it will bug you with some debugging message.

With this UI, the problem arises when the texts in editor exceeds it's height--that is visual limit. That is, you may be seeing what you're typing in keyin--but without seeing/knowing how the text is actually converted into Tamil in editor pad.

So, the next UI I'm thinking about is using *only one* textarea and hooking it. That is, when you type anything on the textarea, it immediately gets changed/transliterated to Tamil. (That is, if you type 'd', it will be entered in the textarea as 'ட்'). This should solve the positioning and space problem, especially it should solve the focusing issue as I told above. But, I would like to know, how userfriendly it will be? Would you be willing to work in such textarea or will you be liking the one I have right now? TIA --Rrjanbiah 18:41, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'll be your beta tester. Let me give my feedback after a while. -- Sundar 05:37, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)

Incidentally, do you have any images of Velupillai Prabhakaran? Any idea about copyright of Interpol images--can't we use them? -- Rrjanbiah 12:38, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I don't have any. Let me send it across if I find one. Idon't know about Interpol images. -- Sundar 10:18, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)

Ok, no problem. Probably I should get it from some LTTE webpages. --Rrjanbiah 18:41, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

New Keyman bookmarklet is available here (http://rajeshanbiah.blogspot.com/2004/12/rtakeyman-bookmarklet-v20.html). Looking for feedback/bug report:-) --Rrjanbiah 20:35, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Sorry, Rajesh. I wasn't very active on Wikipedia recently due to some other work. Will use the boomarklet and give you feedback. Thanks for acknowledging me on your blog. -- Sundar 10:52, Dec 28, 2004 (UTC)
I tested the older version of the keyman, and it works very well on Firefox. Doesn't seem to work directly on IE. It gives a script error there. Even on Firefox, it gives a script error in the beginning, but works perfectly. Will test your latest version soon. We should soon add this to Tamil Wikipedia. வாழ்துக்கள். -- Sundar 06:55, Jan 9, 2005 (UTC)

Your link to Salma

Hi Rajesh I hope you will not mind my calling you that. I would like to read more of Salma's work. She seems to be one of those rare instinctive feminists that keep cropping up in communities where womens' issues are ignored. Unfortunately she does not have a web presence. In your translation of Salma's poetry you have used the english word vagina as a direct translation of Tamil yoni. Problem is the word yoni has a much wider meaning in most Indian and Hindu contexts than a simple sex organ the english word refers to. It is the same with Lingam. If you translate lingam as penis you are correct at one level but the person reading the english version will have no clue of the many different contexts the word lingam has in indian languages nor its connection to Shiva or Hinduism. Problem is there is no english word to explain yoni. Vulva being the word for the opening may be anatomically more appropriate, still lacks the poetic and religios context. This I believe is what leads to the mislabeling of her work as erotic poetry.

-Sirimewan

LTTE

Hi, You seem to be an interesting guy. I do not agree with your views on VP/LTTE but that is not an issue. I do not agree with many peoples' views on many topics. Besides not being a Tamil I do not have direct experience of Tamil issues, only second hand from my friends. You have a link to an article on a young tamil Poet whose work I am unable to read as I do not read Tamil. Judging by the translated bits she definitely seems a courageous woman. I have a few questions for you. 1. If a sharia court sits in judgement of this young and idealistic woman's work and condemns her to death because her work is subversive and against the teachings of Qur'an how would you feel about it. 2. What do you call an organization that executes its critics? 3. Hitler, Stalin both had large numbers of loyal followers who believed in their leader. Do you believe that having a loyal following somehow exhonarates a person form his crimes? Or do you expect winning the war will allow LTTE to write the history and all atrocities committed on the way will be deleted from history? My viws on LTTE and VP are not based on the sinhalese government propaganda but on the experience of many of my tamil friends, organizations like the Amnesty and ICRC. Sirimewan Meghawarna


Rajesh I have posted an article I believe to be a fair description of Prabhakaran on the discussion page. Please tell me what you think?Sirimewan

Race or culture the basis of Sri Lankan conflict.

Rajesh, We do have different views of the LTTE. I am not surprised as we are different people with very different experiences. That is not a reason to avoid discussion. Before reading your message I transferred the bit I wrote on Prabakharan to the main article. If you feel it is unsuitable please revert to the previous version. As for race I grew up learning this myth. Mahavamsa the chronicle Sinhalese consider their history is mostly mythology. Particularly in the early parts of the history of the race. As a medical grarduate I find it impossible to believe that a lion could mate with a woman and produce children, Sinhabahu and Sinhaseevali. Even if they (incestuous marriage) could marry and produce progeny some should have reverted to being lions. Based on this kind of nonsense the sinhalese developed the other myth common to many groups of people in the indian subcontinent. That the Sinhalese are decendents of an Aryan race from the north india and the Tamils from an inferior dravidian race. Propagation of this myth -taught as history when I was a child, was the basis of this race myth. Most sinhalese nationalists still believe in this and the whole issue is deeply ingrained in the psyche of these people. As a doctor practicing in Sri Lanka I have examined hundreds of Sinhala and Tamil people and I can asssure you ther are no discriminating characteristics between the two groups of people to account for different genetic origins. Undress them and remove religious and cultural identification symbols you cannot tell them apart. Further desease patterns and other genetic markers among the sinhalese and tamil migrants in europe do not differ from those among other people from the south of the indian subcontinent. Sadly stll the Aryan Dravidian myth is being propagated resulting in beliefs that feed this conflict. If we are the same biologically what are our differences? We speak differnt langages and have different religions. Even these are not unsurmountable problems. If you visit buddhist temples in rural villages most of them have a shrine to a hindu god, existing alongside. I is a fact that the language Sinhala has northern origins(Pali and Sanskrit) while Tamil has differnt roots. is this a good enough reason to kill each other? Problem with narrow nationalism ie. Sinhala/Tamil is that it accentuates the minor differences and ignores thousands of years of common heritage. The best end to this conflict would be to forget the differences and unite as Sri Lankans and agree to share the resources without killing each other.

Tamil language FAC

Can you have a please look at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Tamil language and register your vote? Thanks. -- Sundar 07:34, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)

Surviving?

I hope you are alright at this moment. I saw a message that you were 'surviving' and hence thought it apt to see how u are doing. Nichalp 18:14, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

Mumbai

I've nominated Mumbai as a Featured Article. I am trying to add stubs to the city in all languages. Tamil is missing so I request you to add a tamil stub on the city. Thank you. Nichalp 19:03, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)


Thanks

... for the flower. :) Hope to be back soon Chancemill 07:21, May 9, 2005 (UTC)

Long time no see

Things are awfully quiet here without LSoS, KRS, Ankur and you. Any plans to revive the good ol' days?  =Nichalp (Talk)= 06:38, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

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