User talk:Wikibob

Hi there. Welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for your contribution at Claude François. Why don't you drop us a note at Wikipedia:New user log so we can meet you and help you get started?

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Happy editing, Isomorphic 22:43, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. I'm glad to see someone working on the MER-A timeline. Perl 21:34, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hosers

Thanks for the heads-up. I had already found this, but forgot I still had a live question out there. Actually I prefer the style of GPF: Hosers now comes across as too consciously "roughly drawn". Which do you prefer? --Phil 08:04, Mar 3, 2004 (UTC)

Messages

I award you this barnstar for your conversion of the MER timelines. A table of contents is very helpful. The star is rusty and has pointy edges so don't accidently poke your eyes out or cut yourself! (Tetanus isn't very pleasant.) Perl 21:41, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks!Wikibob 00:32, 2004 Mar 2 (UTC)

Nomination

Perl has nominated you for administrator status on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship, but I can't tell whether he told you about it, so I wanted to make sure you were aware. You're supposed to go to that page to accept or decline the nomination. Since you're still fairly new here, I'm not sure if this nomination is going to be widely supported. Personally, I would suggest you decline the nomination and wait until you have more experience here, but that's just friendly advice - I don't mean to be telling you what to do. --Michael Snow 17:11, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Falklands Maps

Did you make those maps for the Battle of Goose Green? If so, could you possibly make further maps, if you have the time, and if its not asking too much, for the other battles which have been written?

Newspaper links

The newspaper links are heading for the wrong papers: looks like the BBC don't have a set link for each paper, they have a different set each day!

Thanks, answered on User talk:Sam Francis -Wikibob

Transit of Deimos from Mars

You have to enter

Spirit@499 or Opportunity@499 for the observer location, and Deimos is 402.

It's not exactly a user-friendly interface.

For the table options, I used 4,5,13,23,34

I think 34 is the local solar time

The discrepancy could be due to the Martian equivalent of the equation of time. Maybe they're using mean solar time instead of true solar time.

-- Curps 22:28, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Here's some useful links for telling time on Mars:

The technical notes links (2nd above) says that Spirit and Opportunity mission time is an "offset modification of an evenly advancing mean solar time", whatever that means. The difference between lander mission time and local solar time should be up to 40 minutes or so; however, I believe the times for the photographs were specifically given as local solar time.

Probably it's important to keep strictly to local solar time, because on Mars things like temperature vary greatly up and down in strict synchronicity with the Sun (with no water or atmosphere to buffer temperature changes), and that affects all aspects of lander operations. Maybe "lander mission time" is simply what's kept by those fancy custom watches they had made.

-- Curps 19:54, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I created a Time and date on Mars article, with some of the info above.

Regarding transits, I found a citation for Transits of Mars I and II [1] (http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-bib_query?bibcode=2004IAUC.8298....2B&db_key=AST&high=40d5354a3a26824) at IAU Circ., 8298, 2 (2004). However, attemping to look up this IAUC online says "not yet issued" (which makes no sense since they're up to 8359).

If by any chance you have access to IAU Circulars, perhaps looking this up will help clear up some of the mystery of the divergent times.

-- Curps 08:22, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the DVI link for the IAU Circular. I used dvipdf to convert it. Unfortunately, the text is only half a page and pretty much what you managed to decode: they give times of March 4.12773, 4.12785, 4.12819, which corresponds to 3h 3m 55.9s, 3h 4m 06.2s, 3h 4m 35.6s, but it seems that can't be right because it implies a span of 40 seconds between the first and last (fourth) images rather than 30 seconds. They don't give the local solar times.

-- Curps 20:22, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I added comments to Talk:Transit of Deimos from Mars.

I calculated the UTC times of all the transit images for the two transits of Deimos and the three transits of Phobos based on the filename timestamp, and added the information to the Image pages (such as Image:Deimos Mar 13 2004 from Spirit 1.jpg).

The main problem, I think, is that the start time for Sol 38 given as 08:13 PST must be rounded to the nearest minute. According to JPL Horizons, the local apparent solar time of 00:00 corresponded 16:16:26.504 UTC, but no doubt they're using some form of mean solar time for the mission, otherwise every sol would be a different length. It would be good to know the formula to convert from UTC to local mean solar time as used by Opportunity.

I think Mars Mean Solar Time is defined somewhere here, but I haven't taken a closer look at it: http://www.giss.nasa.gov/tools/mars24/help/notes.html

-- Curps 04:19, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

In case you're interested, JPL Horizons predictions for 1999 are not off by as much as I suspected previously, in fact they're hardly off at all. See the text at Image:Phobos shadow.jpg. I forgot to take the "downtrack summing" factor into account when calculating the time of the shadow.

-- 01:40, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Wik's user page

Regarding your edit summary: rv per Jimbo Wales wishes "It is my intention that Wik's user pages be left alone, in their current state, i.e. with the simple message above. Please do not harass him or continue this petty fight..." -- Jimbo wrote this when Wik was trying to leave and a user insisted on harassing him -- not when Wik was running an automated script (bot) to vandalize dozens of pages automatically.

Siula Grande

Hi. Following your request at the reference desk, I checked Joe Simpson's book to see what he said about it. Not much I am afraid, the complete quote is (page 16 in my paperback):

"It had been climbed for the first time in 1936 by two bold Germans via the North Ridge. There had been few ascents since then, and the true prize, the daunting 4,500 foot West Face had so far defeated all attempts."

Pcb21| Pete 20:55, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, I've added a bit and made a German version (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siula_Grande) in probably bad German. A lot later I'll attempt the other peaks in the Cordillera (articles not climbing). -Wikibob | Talk 20:24, 2004 Aug 2 (UTC)

lol, good luck. Pcb21| Pete 22:22, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Operation Gunnerside and Norwegian heavy water sabotage

I missed the Operation Gunnerside article, and created an article entitled Norwegian heavy water sabotage which covers the same material as the Operation Gunnerside article. They should be merged - each article contains unique material. The question then arises as to where the merged article should be placed (with a redirect from the other title, of course). I think "Norwegian heavy water sabotage" is probably slightly more accurate, as Operation Gunnerside was only part of their efforts to prevent the Nazis acquiring the heavy water supply, but would like your opinion on the topic. --Robert Merkel 11:58, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Windows bug

Hi, thanks for the informations about the CON bug under Windows. I had problems with "con.html" not being written on disk, but wasn't aware of bigger issues like those you mention :-) I'll try some workaround next time I work on the script. Alfio 12:40, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

oil rigs

OK, I am still fumbling my way around. It may not be the way to answer your message, but thank you for the rewrite of "oil rig" and the move of most of the original text to "offshore platforms" it was just bugging the hell out of me. I am still working at stuff and will try to find a way to add a rig picture to the appropriate page. I still don't know how to sign. I don't have a user name.

I have made the following reply (and added a standard Welcome) to your talk page:

Thanks for your reply concerning oil rig on my Talk (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Wikibob&action=edit) page. If you want to get a username, so that others can more easily talk to you, click on Special:Userlogin and just invent your own username and password. The email address is optional, but if you ever forget your password it allows you to receive a new one. It would be good if you could sign up as Wikipedia needs more images. When you have a login, you can sign by typing one dash (-) and four swung dashes (~) like this: -~~~~ -Wikibob | Talk 11:56, 2004 Sep 13 (UTC)

Sill fumbling my way through, but making progress, I think! As practice for the "oil rig" article (and various other I would like to get into) I added some photos to the "kazakh", "tulip" and "steppe" articles, but I can't get the caption to show up, which makes the pictures a lot less effective. Can I bug you and ask for some help?...I have gone to the tutorial etc, I think I am following the instruction but without results. Oh, I have a user name now..and I know how to sign.Carole a 19:21, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the captions and re-arranging at kazakh tulip and steppe. I like the result. 02:59, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

picture size

Oops, they are too big! I didn't take them thinking of Wikipedia, I just happen to have them. I don't have the software to resize them. I will download one and work on it. So far I have uploaded and included in articles 6 pictures, 3 in kazakh, 1 in tulip, 1 in steppe and 1 in aktobe. I'll stop until I sort out the size. Carole a 15:14, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I am sorry to bug you about this, but I can't download irfanview..is there some obvious mistake a computer dummy is likely to make when downloading it. It seems pretty straight forward, but ever since it asked me where I was (Asia) and ask for a something-provider (I picked the closest in Thailand which has nothing to so with me whatsoever), it won't let me do download...I wished I'd lied about where I am and said that I was home. I wish I could step back and redo that part, because now it doesn't ask me anymore where I am. Carole a 05:53, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for the tips about dowmloading Irfanview. I still have to try it/them. I use Internet Explore, but Mozilla sounds familiar as I use Mozilla Thunderbird for my email. I do have an anti-virus (Kaspersky, which I update very regularly and very often) I am not sure about firewalls, and I definetely do not have anti-spyware because I get a all bunch of pop-ups. I am a beginner, but I would like to think that I am not a complete beginner and it seems to me that I know just enough to be dangerous to myself! Mostly I stumble around the computer fearlessly, which in itself should be scaring me. I definitely make the computer savvy people I meet both laugh and shudder at the same time with the way I do things (for example: I have not been able to find the "vertical bar" used in entering pictures so I copy and paste it from other pictures!?!) but I seem to get along somehow. If I download Mozilla firefox and try to use it, I must be able to revert to Internet Exploreer if I can't handle it, right?

your edits to Tier One

I ended up reversing all three of your substantive edits to Tier One:

You changed a link from pilot (spaceflight) to pilot. The original was correct, despite the linked article not existing yet; pilot is a disambiguation page, and pilot (spaceflight) is one of the articles it points at. I've created a substub there to avoid future confusion, but this kind of thing is common. You should avoid making links more ambiguous than they were to start with, and remember that a link to a non-existent article is not broken per se.
You changed "Mg" to "tonne". The article consistently uses SI units, so "Mg" is appropriate.
Without mention in the edit summary, you added some HTML comments that appear to cast doubt on the NPOVness of the comparison between the reentry modes of SpaceShipOne and the Space Shuttle. If you have such doubts, please raise them on Talk:Tier One, or improve the text yourself.

195.167.169.36 15:30, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Fair comments, I've replied at Talk:Tier One. -Wikibob | Talk 19:55, 2004 Sep 27 (UTC)

about Image:Beslan siege rough plan.png

I am unable to view Image:Beslan siege rough plan.png. Maybe the link is broken? --*drew 09:49, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Also replied on User_talk:*drew - Hi, the link to Image:Beslan siege rough plan.png was Ok when I looked at it just now (here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Beslan_siege_rough_plan.png) is the direct link). However I've replaced the one in the article with this better one (Image:Beslan_hostage_crisis_initial_plan.png from User: Underscore). -Wikibob | Talk 19:34, 2004 Oct 13 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. But the error is still there. Here's the snapshot of what I saw when viewing that picture [2] (http://diskhub.com/diskhub/uploads/04-10-14/snapshot_of_broken_image_link.jpg). --*drew 07:00, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Thank you for fixing the problem :) --*drew 13:33, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Template:Canton Aargau

This template creates a table with a link to districts of Switzerland (which doesn't exist as an article yet). Two suggestions: 1) change the link to Districts of Switzerland and 2) include [[category:Districts of Switzerland|{{{1}}}]] in the template (so the article is added to category:Districts of Switzerland). Rick Block 01:46, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I changed the template (removed the argument), since there really isn't any need (by default, "category" picks up the referencing page name). This ends up putting the template under "T", rather than "{", which is a little less mysterious. I see you added the category, so it's not a "redlink" anymore. -- Rick Block 20:44, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The Humungous Image Tagging Project

Hi. You've helped with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
Multi-Licensing Guide
Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)| talk)

Translation

Hope I'm not out of line to drop you a note but I'm eliciting help with the enormous backlog of requested translations from German. -- Jmabel | Talk 21:59, Feb 13, 2005 (UTC)

Category white space

Please don't condense categories onto a single line. The white space produced is a bug and is listed here (http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87). Cburnett 18:06, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Mars Rovers

Hey Wikibob, how about an update on the timelines for the Mars rovers? Cool stuff is still coming in! Fawcett5 21:15, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

left to right misordering of image captions

Per your comments on Talk:Swastika I have changed the article in a way that I HOPE will cause it to render the same for everyone. Could you check and let me know if it looks ok with your browser? It looks the same on mine either way. Dalf | Talk 06:40, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

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