User talk:Alteripse

Contents

1 Headline text 2 Newborn screening 3 Negative connotation at CAH 4 IRC 5 Please Consult About Medical Facts 6 OMIM 7 Redirects and capitalization 8 ¡We Need A Doctor! 9 Syndrome X 9.1 Phimosis 10 Many thanks 11 Latin phrases 12 Article Licensing 13 cyt p450 pic 14 Regarding sex assigment 15 66.20.28.21's case 16 Adminship 17 Glucokinase article 18 Thanks 19 Congratulations! 20 He who shall not flush 21 HGH ducks 22 66.20.28.21 23 Great Lakes Storm of 1913 24 Thanks 25 Brent Collins 26 Arbitration case 27 The Cantos 28 Glyc(osyl)ation 29 Arbitration Committee ruling 30 anion 31 M.D.? 32 Alternative medicine 32.1 Abuse from John Gohde 32.2 gedday 33 DC trip 34 Normal distribution 35 DC Meetup will be May 7/8 36 So...I suprised you? 37 Death 38 Glycosylation vs. glycation 39 User:MacGyverMagic/Desk#Gas_chromatography-Mass_spectrometry 40 TSH

Headline text

user_talk:alteripse/archive1_user_talk:alteripse/archive2

Hi alteripse - after reading all the commentary, you will note that I ended up going with a "death" phrasing at abortion and eliminating the political controversy talk, since the concensus seemed to be that it belonged elsewhere. This keeps getting edited, so it is hard to know how to phrase it.

Hi Alteripse, this is someone whom you have helped a great some by answering his quetions regarding DNA and Okazaki fragments. I want to thank you a lot for your time spent.

Newborn screening

Good good! I twiddled a little with formatting here and there, but basically, bravo!! jengod 22:06, Jul 2, 2004 (UTC)

Negative connotation at CAH

Hey there, Alteripse! Compliments on your amazingly extensive additions to CAH -- your work is truly impressive. However, I noticed some potentially negative connotation in one of your latest additions:

However, surgery for severely virilized XX infants is often performed and has become a subject of debate in the last decade. (my emphasis)

Considering the strong feelings over CAH and its potential for "correction" (and considering that some feel that CAH isn't something to be corrected), I'd hesitate to use the phrase "severely virilized" because of its negative connotation. Maybe "extensively virilized" (or something of the sort) may be better? Naturally, severely may fit the bill; you're the authoritative one here, of course. I just figured I'd bring it to your attention ;-) --Diberri | Talk 05:02, Jul 9, 2004 (UTC)

I moved this question and a reply to talk:congenital adrenal hyperplasia. See you there.Alteripse 11:12, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

IRC

How to set up IRC:

• I'm assuming you have administrative priveleges on your computer; that'll make things easier to install.
  1. Go to http://gaim.sourceforge.net, and click on downloads.
  2. Get Gaim-0.79.exe and install it. (It's Free Software, so you can copy it anywhere you like.)
  3. When it's done installing, it'll ask you to sign in. You'll see an accounts window.
     1. Click "+ Add".
     2. Change the protocol to IRC.
     3. Give yourself a screen name and password.
     4. Make sure the server is irc.freenode.net.
     5. Click save. Gaim will sign you in automatically.
  4. In the Buddy List window, do Buddies->Join a Chat.
  5. Channel:#Wikipedia. That's where I am at the moment.
  6. Type stuff. Everyone will see it.  :-)

--Ardonik 20:02, Jul 17, 2004 (UTC)

When I tried to connect, my norton internet security blocks the connection. Even when I tell it to permit it, it immediately gives me a messages saying I was disconnected.

• I don't know how to use Norton's products. IRC uses port 6667; see if you can configure Norton to unblock the port manually. --Ardonik 20:33, Jul 17, 2004 (UTC)
  • Suggestions are coming in from #Wikipedia. Did you perhaps get a popup from Norton asking whether to approve a connection by gaim.exe or something like that? That's how Sygate's firewall works. --Ardonik 20:42, Jul 17, 2004 (UTC)

This is based on Sygate firewall, not Norton. I would guess that the firewall is blocking gaim. Does gaim work at all? If not, this will likely be why.

There should be something in the firewall software which lists blocked and permitted apps. Windows firewalls generally work on a per-application basis. Sygate works by seeing when an app tries to use the net, then pops up asking you whether to allow or deny. I am assuming (that's ass-u-me) that Norton would work similarly.

So: first go into the Norton firewall and see if you can find a list of permitted and denied apps. Make gaim permitted. If that doesn't work, see if you can find a list of permitted and denied ports, and try unblocking ports 6650-6669 - David Gerard 20:45, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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Please Consult About Medical Facts

¿Are you a member of Doctors Opposing Circumcision (http://DoctorsOpposingCircumcision.Org/)? Even if you are not a member of Doctors Opposing Circumcision, (http://DoctorsOpposingCircumcision.Org/) I would like to occasionally, consult with you about the medical facts of articles. Intactivists always try to get the facts write -- unlike the evil circumcisiophiliacs who care nothing for the truth.

¡Thanks!

Ŭalabio 03:13, 2004 Aug 18 (UTC)

I hope you're not trying to draw Dr Alteripse into politics and controversy here. We need him too much for the real issues. JFW | T@lk

OMIM

Yes, I discovered the problem with the tags in the table later. This is why I didn't give porphyrin the same treatment. We may get somewhere by removing "number" alltogether or replacing it by "no.". I'll change it around and see how it works. JFW | T@lk 08:45, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I did it straight away. The CAH table still spans more than one line, but it looks better. I'm going to put it into porphyria now. JFW | T@lk 15:59, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Redirects and capitalization

Hi; you should look at Wikipedia:Redirect#What do we use redirects for? if you haven't already done so. Not only is redirecting from an alternative capitalization a good idea in most cases (it prevents accidental duplication of articles and may help in searches; the fact that you started the article capitalized shows at least someone might link to it by that title), but it is also best to redirect rather than delete, generally speaking. You did a cut-and-paste move (usually a bad thing); and while you were the only contributor to the article and therefore only your edits would have been deleted, saving page histories is a good thing in most cases (due to the GFDL and other reasons). Most people like to keep their contributions (sometimes even the erroneous ones), so I'm a bit confused; but I'm sorry if this has upset you. Did my explanation help at all? -- Hadal 03:33, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

No big deal either way. It just seems more consistent to delete since we don't routinely suggest creating such an "all-caps" redirect for every article on purpose. Alteripse 03:49, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

¡We Need A Doctor!

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At David Peter Reimer, those with a special interest in circumcision try to change the reasons for circumcising Bruce. To get you up to speed, this is a quick summery:

• Months ago, we (you, I, others) determined that the stated reason Max Cham and Jean Huot claimed (phimosis) was impossible (or universal and benign) because the præpuce and glans are fused and the præputial opening is too small in infancy. Gairdner 1948 Whither the foreskin?

• We determined that the most probable true diagnosis was deliberate iatrogenic balanitis from deliberate forced retraction for cleaning leading to deliberate iatrogenic balanitis deliberately misdiagnosed as phimosis in order to get the circumcision-fee. We detetmined this because tens of millions of other babies in North America had deliberate iatrogenic balanitis from forced retraction for cleaning leading to deliberate iatrogenic balanitis deliberately misdiagnosed as phimosis in order to get the circumcision-fee in the twentieth century. It is just the most probable cause.

• Yesterday, User:Jakew removed all of the information about this being a deliberate misdiagnosis of deliberate iatrogenic balanitis from deliberate forced retraction for cleaning leading to deliberate iatrogenic balanitis deliberately misdiagnosed as phimosis in order to get the circumcision-fee. and made it look like Max Cham and Huot are nice fellows. This just so happens to suite the special interest in universal circumcision this individual has.

¿Could you please help? ¿Could you write what you believe the true probable diagnosis is and why? Could you help rewrite the section of the article about diagnosis?

¡Thanks!

Ŭalabio 16:50, 2004 Oct 23 (UTC)

Syndrome X

There are two Syndromes X: cardiac and metabolic. I think cardiac syndrome X is actually very similar to Prinzmetal angina. The "metabolic" syndrome X is now being called mainly metabolic syndrome, probably to avoid confusion with the cardiac Syndrome X.

Thanks for reviewing MODY. It needed some help; I used a review in Clinical Medicine from Mar/Apr this year but I decided not to copy out the list of mutated genes to avoid copyvio scares :-) JFW | T@lk 12:54, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Phimosis

Dear Alteripse:

I think you have the wrong person.

The only change to the article that I made was to insert a link in the citations that someone else had overlooked. Robert Blair 06:36, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean. I don't think I addressed anything to you, did I? alteripse 12:47, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Many thanks

Hi. Thanks for your best wishes. I am awe-struck at your output, I have quite a way to go before I can match that. The problem is that the more pages I write, the bigger is the list of links to them which have to be written. I suppose I ought to go back to the start of my list and systematically write pages for the links in them, before starting anything totally new. I have been very busy of late in my day-job with a couple of big editing and writing projects, but once I am clear of them and have more time --- I wish! Apwoolrich 14:30, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Latin phrases

You made a few improvements to List of Latin proverbs while I was in the process of moving it to Wikiquote. I think your changes were lost - I apologize. You may want to look through Wikiquote:Latin proverbs to be sure. – Quadell ^{(talk) (help)}[[]] 19:56, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

I was working on list of Latin phrases and it appears ok. No harm no foul. alteripse 20:55, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

• Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
• Multi-Licensing Guide
• Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)| talk)

cyt p450 pic

To be honest, I'm not really sure. However, I should emphasize that I downloaded the sequence in PDB format (PDB code is shown in image description), openned it in Deepview (http://www.expasy.org/spdbv/), played with the color, oriented the protein until it looked cool, copied it over to a paint program and then saved it as png. All of the pictures I uploaded were really made by me. According to an NCBI disclaimer (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/About/disclaimer.html), sequences are public domain, as far as they are concerned. Where it gets muddy is whether or not the protein sequences I used were patented by or copyrighted to the submitter. I haven't seen notices while I was making the pics. Even then, I'm not sure if creating a picture from a copyrighted sequence would make it illegal/copyright infringement. I was wondering about that myself earlier, so I'd appreciate your thoughts on the matter. As for Hexokinaseglucokinase, if you're interested in making your own pics, I can give you tips to figure out how to display proteins (with the colors and ribbons) with Deepview (it took me a few moments). Otherwise, I'll do it a bit later -- it takes about 12 seconds. --jag123 02:28, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

If you did that much to make it, it's yours and not someone else's. Please show me how to do that for glucokinase. alteripse 02:35, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

(I'll assume you use the Windows version. Shift + click may be different for other versions) I get the PDB number from here (http://ca.expasy.org/cgi-bin/nicezyme.pl?2.7.1.1), under IUMB Enz class and then PDB link (First in list is 1BDG). In Deepview, click on File->Import, enter the PDB id, and click the second PDB file button (under Grab from server). It'll load (and should give you an error about missing AA). You can close the status window but keep the control panel window open. Click on Display->OpenGl, Display->Solid 3D. In the control panel window, press Shift and click on a v in the Show column (they should all get unchecked) and then Shift + Click in a blank space under the Ribn column (they should all get checked). Click on the black arrow/triangle under R (complete right and top of Control Panel window) and select Ribbon from the drop down menu. Then go to Color (Main program) and click by secondary structure succession (that's what I use). Orient the protein and then save it. (I just did a Print Screen and paste into paint since it was faster than saving as tga and reopenning and resaving into png.) Good luck! Just to let you know, I plan to add pics to all the proteins; I've got all the oxidoreductases done so far. --jag123 02:57, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Regarding sex assigment

You had the nerve to claim on my talk page that my last edit on the talk page of the article were "insulting" and wanted to know whether we could resolve the dispute. Well, obviously not, since you seem to regard the mentioning of facts you don't like as insults, and obviously, without facts we cannot resolve the dispute. Anyway, since I do not know whether you would read the answer on my talk page, I copied it here, too.

Are you joking? You were the one who reverted to a POV-pushing version and ranted and insulted me for trying to improve "your" article. And obviously my edits shows much more "intellectual support" for what I wrote than your, too. So maybe you ought to try and to better the next time - like checking facts and not insulting people, for example. However, if you consider my last comment on the talk page as "primary insulting", then obviously there is no basis whatever for a meaningful debate between us, and that clearly shows that you have neither the capacity not the willingness to resolve the problem. Well, so be it. -- AlexR 15:45, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

66.20.28.21's case

The Arbitration Committee has ruled on the case of 66.20.28.21. You may be interested in seeing the final decision of the case. -- Grunt [[European Union|]] 16:38, 2005 Jan 6 (UTC)

Adminship

Hello, I have nominated you for adminship. If interested, please accept at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Alteripse. Taco Deposit | Talk-o Deposit 19:18, Jan 17, 2005 (UTC)

• You're welcome. I'm in the Iowa City area and enjoying it. Don't forget to accept your nom. Taco Deposit | Talk-o Deposit 02:02, Jan 18, 2005 (UTC)

Glucokinase article

1. On the site from where I search for the PDB, it's a bit hard to distinguish 'l' from '1' because of the font they use. When my program couldn't find 1GLK, I incorrectly assumed it was 1G1K. I thought it looked weird, but figured maybe it was a dimer or one was the catalytic site while the other was the regulation -- I'm not really that familiar with that enzyme. Thanks for catching that and it's fixed now
2. I apologize for removing the empty headers, especially since it messed things up. I wasn't aware you were still working on them.
3. In the original formula, there were '=', so I figured someone forgot to push shift, since that's how you get the '+' sign (at least, on many US keyboards). It was an oversight on my part, I'm not contesting the validity.

Re: our "friend", it's really sad that these types of things seem to leak in everywhere. If I wanted those kinds of problems, I'd go edit Creationism or something like that. Sigh... --jag123 05:35, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I see you've added the '=' again. Is this a mistake or really a notation which I've never seen before? --jag123 03:09, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC) It is meant to be equiv to 2- (the opposite of ++). I adopted the equation directly from a review article by Maria Cardenas, who "wrote the book" on the liver form of GK. Her form of the equation is R-CH_{2OH + MgATP^{2- arrow R-CH2O-PO32- + MgADP- + H+}}

I thought my adaptation was a little clearer but do you think we should change back to 2- or use her whole equation? alteripse 03:26, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi, alteripse, thanks for replying on RfA. I hope you didn't think I was taking a poke. I've declined being nominated for adminship a couple of times, and there's always a kind of low-level debate going on in my head about whether or not to accept next time, so I'm interested in how others think. I get to take my pick, huh? ;-) OK, they're all good answers, though they wouldn't all be valid for me. I guess I worry more about wiki addiction than you do (or just have a worse case of it than you do), so adminship getting me to "start doing additional community activities" is on the minus, not the plus, debating team in my head. It's pretty much that team's star rhetorician, even. Anyway, I'm sure you'll make a good, well-balanced admin, you've been doing really good work around the place. And the vote's looking pretty good, isn't it! Best wishes, Bishonen | Talk 07:16, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful. Cheers! -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 23:38, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Second on the list - many thanks for the footnoting, and the help on my *own* q on the ref desk! Little name, big fan --allie 23:50, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Actually, our paths just crossed ~ the mysterious yet elusive footnote technique. Yes, I know...it's as easy as lsu9twye nfiniuty ljwyt. But do you have it written down somewhere, perhaps?? For the geekiest nerd who exists on planet Wikipedia? Many thanks. --allie 01:46, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Slow? hahaha That's a laugh! You inserted footnotes in the Soup article. Now, don't hate me- because I deleted them in a later revision. But here's the thing - they keep popping up whenever I try to use your tech. again. It's two { then fn1 and then two } .... and then you went in to fix the formatting when I ran into problems. So...I don't really know how to do it properly. Then, when I tried to do it in another article? The fn from Soup appeared in the next article. Confused? So am I. --allie 09:35, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Duh! It wasn't you who taught me the footnote technique - it was Alterego! Terribly sorry for the confusion. Have I mentioned congratulations yet today? Best regards, --allie 17:31, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

CONGRATULATIONS! I only found out today. We should work together more. Any suggestions? JFW | T@lk 00:34, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

He who shall not flush

An amazing link for everything you don't want to know and then some: --allie 22:54, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

• Every search engine known to mankind (http://www.infotoday.com/supersearchers/ssnews.htm)

HGH ducks

I've just stumbled on the HGH quackery article, and as I review the history, it seems you're primarily responsible for its current condition. Congratulations. I think it's an example of just what WP should be producing, though not quite a traditional encyclopedic sort of thing. We're breaking new ground here in that respect. I've also noted your admin nomination and endorsed it, though after the (tardy) fact. Congratulations on that as well... Good work. ww 19:18, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

66.20.28.21

You offered, at Talk:Marietta, Georgia, to protect the page. You also cite the arbitration, which I am familiar with. Is there nothing else, nothing more forceful or effective, that was envisioned by that ruling? User:VirtuousO has just reverted to the 66.20.28.21 edit of Marietta, Georgia and Phil Gingrey, two pages on which I have been reverting this same edit for some time now. VirtuousO also inexplicably reverted two other pages, Tenzin Gyatso and Syngman Rhee, or at least it would be inexplicable but for the obvious fact that 66.20.28.21 is engaging in specific retribution against me. (Check the user contributions (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=VirtuousO), and then look at the histories of those pages. The Syngman Rhee edit was pointless disruption in the first place, and VirtuousO restored it after I reverted it.) Is it not possible to determine this user’s IP address, or the IP address of the other sockpuppets operating on these pages, and compare them? Can the admins not develop some evidence that 66.20.28.21 is circumventing the ruling, and take action? Those of us following the career of this editor have mostly viewed it as a source of unacceptable bias constantly inserted through edit wars; but now we are dealing with simple vandalism. What can you do?
— Ford 05:51, 2005 Feb 6 (UTC)

I am a new admin, and haven't done this before, but let me try to help. See my note on the WP:RFAr page. I copied your request there. alteripse 14:35, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

It seems that the consensus is for further disruption of this kind to be dealt with immediately, which is good. On the other hand, why must we wait until further disruption? This has been going on quite a while since the decision was made, and I do not see that there has been any enforcement.
— Ford 00:22, 2005 Feb 7 (UTC)

I share your distress at our lack of an immune system. Since I just became part of the "administration" here, I'll see what I can do. I think the applicable concept here is "mole whacking" in hope that the moles tire before the admins do. Wish me luck. alteripse 00:31, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Please note the edit to Marietta, Georgia today. Thanks. — Ford 14:37, 2005 Feb 15 (UTC)

blocked & reverted alteripse 16:17, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Great Lakes Storm of 1913

I've posted this article at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Great Lakes Storm of 1913. --brian0918™ 23:20, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!! --brian0918™ 04:53, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your encouragement. I am new to the wikiworld and have primarily a clinical interest, but then I am interested also in everything else. So this is the best on the Internet. Ekem 23:46, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Brent Collins

Indeed, I only wrote his article based on what was there at IMDB. There is an email address there, of the person who wrote the article. I'll email him and have him clarify it for me. In the meantime, feel free to edit anything that doesn't sound right, and I can pencil in the clarifications later. Mike H 17:03, Feb 24, 2005 (UTC)

Regarding his dwarfism, that's just not in debate. He was very short (I'd be surprised if he was above four feet in height), and his roles on sitcoms such as The Golden Girls note this (example storyline: Can Rose date a dwarf?) Mike H 17:07, Feb 24, 2005 (UTC)

Then why remove him from the list in the dwarf article? The only thing that doesn't fit then would be the late growth spurt. The rest is unusual and unlucky but not unbelievable. thanks alteripse 22:22, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The weird circumstances made it sound as if he didn't belong totally in the dwarf article...like they typecast him as a dwarf but he really wasn't, or something. I don't know; it's all very confusing and I'm tempted to just remove all the Marfan stuff until someone else can back it up; I don't think that'll happen. Do you mind doing it for me? I see myself being very busy tomorrow. Mike H 10:54, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)

Arbitration case

The case against Robert Blair has been accepted. Please bring any further evidence to Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Robert Blair/Evidence - David Gerard 18:42, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The Cantos

Thank you for your vote on WP:FAC, praise is always welcome. Filiocht 08:53, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)

Glyc(osyl)ation

Go ahead. I know very little about the stuff, and then more about glycosylation. JFW | T@lk 18:16, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Arbitration Committee ruling

The case against Robert Blair has closed. Please see the final decision for details. -- Grunt [[European Union|]] 19:28, 2005 Mar 14 (UTC)

anion

I'm pretty sure you're wrong about anions: in general, they are negatively charged (though I do like your presentation on remembering an- and cat- prefixes). Anyway, have a look at the Wikipedia:Reference_desk#Anodes_and_cathodes and correct me if I'm wrong. - Nunh-huh 00:17, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

M.D.?

Are you an M.D.? Just curious, because you seem interested in medicine. Neutrality^talk 02:24, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC) Yes.

Alternative medicine

Template:Award

[Please feel free to move this award to a different place if you prefer, Alteripse.] Axl 16:22, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Abuse from John Gohde

John Gohde, previously known as Mr-Natural-Health and once banned for three months, brought a request against Snowspinner, who has been monitoring Gohde's activity for several weeks, for systematically reverting Gohde's addition of infoboxes to articles dealing with alternative medicine. The arbitrators rejected this request, but agreed to consider Snowspinner's "counterclaim" that Gohde had "returned to the behavior which got him in trouble twice before."

I suggest that you join Snowspinner, and perhaps set up a new Request for Comments in regards to John Gohde. Sadly, he is again harassing any Wikipedia user who dares disagree with him. I am saddened to see that he is harassing you, and lying about me. (BTW, I actually am a scientist, and Gohde's claim to the contrary is libel.) RK 20:45, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)

gedday

hi! it seems they let anybody become an admin these days ;-)

hope you're well. I've become increasing distracted by my own site (gasboys.net) so my muse for writing anything other than MCQs has gone a bit quiet lately.

anyway congrats! Erich 12:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

DC trip

Please list all your available dates in the table at Wikipedia:Meetup/Wikipedians of the East Coast field trip#Date. Thanks. --brian0918™ 18:34, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Normal distribution

I really regret the acrimonious tone of our exchange over at Wikipedia:Peer_review#Normal_distribution. It is still unclear to me whether or not I have addressed your concerns, though, because you replied to user:taxman while I was busy writing and dealing with edit conflicts and you never replied to me. All I have to say is that I know very little about medical practice, but that there are a whole lot of reasons (mathematical and biological) why the results of biological growth should be lognormal an not normal, and that I can imagine a whole lot of practical reasons why medical practice would use the normal.

As for your comment about college-educated adults, I doubt that 99.9% of college educated adults could tell you much about the normal distribution. Mathematical education of nonmathematicians is usually abysmal through no fault of the nonmathematicians, and considering how hard it is already for people to learn to work with the normal distribution, these nuances would be out of place in most introductory expositions. But this is an encyclopedia after all, and the devil is in the details. — Miguel 12:20, 2005 Apr 21 (UTC)

By the way, the kinds of techniques you want to see discussed probably belong under descriptive statistics or exploratory data analysis. I am by training more interested in building and testing models. — Miguel 17:19, 2005 Apr 21 (UTC)

A good read (http://www.inf.ethz.ch/personal/gut/lognormal/bioscience.pdf) on the lognormal distribution. — Miguel 09:33, 2005 Apr 22 (UTC)

DC Meetup will be May 7/8

The DC Meetup date has been finalized to May 7/8. Even if you can only come one of the days, that's still fine. Please watch this page for new details, which will be posted in the next couple days: Wikipedia:Meetup/Wikipedians of the East Coast field trip --brian0918™ 16:12, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

So...I suprised you?

Ouch - you thought I was not an English speaker? Wow, I must sound far more unintelligent than I ever imagined. I made the spoonfeeding remark because I felt as though I was pestering you (I was trying to be nice)- I thought when you made your response you were being rude, as if to say "my, my aren't you an idiot" but perhaps I was mistaken? How did you know I like Dylan? Anyways, I'm not sure what the point of your post on my talk page was - should I feel embarassed or stupid because you found my unintelligent due to my post? To be honest, I'm not too familiar with the structuralist movement, but I did know Dickens pre-dated it significantly and I suppose that is the reason for my initial confusion in response to your first post. --Nadsat 02:01, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

No, no - I am VERY glad that you posted on my talk page - yes, one of the downsides of internet interactions: how one's words are perceived by another is never quite the way that is intended. From what I understand you were trying to make amends, and I appreciate that greatly (if that is the case). So please do not feel as though you should have quit messages ago. Friends?

If the answer to my last inquiry is yes...then am I to understand that you are a doctor/involved in the medical profession? If so (and even if you are not) I think I could use your help... --Nadsat 02:28, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

Death

Check out the abortion page and read the first sentence, and then go to the talk page. There is a debate going on started by others (the most recent one started by myself) about whether or not the first sentence and definition of abortion is POV. I figured if you are involved with medicine you would have a background of the science behind the matter, etc. I just posted something on there (it's the most recent one) in response to others, and another definition, too. Do you have any suggestions/think the page is currently POV/think you can come up with something better? Muchas gracias, senor. --Nadsat 02:43, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

Please read my reply on the abortion talk page. I don't think that the original sentence was POV. And it's much clearer language. Str1977 15:31, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Dear Alteripse, I see your point and I concur with you on fetus/embryo. (changes there were not from me) I also see the effect you are considering. However, I think the "without survival" is really awkward (and I know why others are more comfortable with it) - it'd make sense only if the death was some side-effect of the procedure, but it's not. Consider, whether you'd describing beheading someone like this: "severing head from the body at the neck, without survival of the subject"? I don't think so. But thanks for your consideration. Str1977 15:52, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Yes, of course - but thank you for trying. I agree that these types of articles are Wikipedia's major weaknesses. I just figured I would call in someone more experienced here into the matter (like you)- but unfortunatlely, perhaps no solution can be found. Thanks again for trying, and if you have any further suggestions, feel free to let me know. --Nadsat 17:26, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

Hi Alteripse

I noticed you changed the menstruation article by saying you woudl move unsubstantiatable sentences to the talk page, but I don't see it there. Can you put them there, so we can discuss them? thanks.

BrainyBabe 01:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Glycosylation vs. glycation

I assume you read my userpage, otherwise you couldn't have known I was working to expand glycosylation.

Anyway, the lead section of glycation pretty much explains the difference perfectly. Glycosylation is a highly controlled process mediated by specific enzymes in the endoplasmatic reticulum and Golgi apparatus while glycation is much more random and haphazard and not mediated by enzymes. If it needs to be any clearer, I'd love to help, but you'd have to tell me more specifically what part is unclear. - Mgm|^(talk) 15:44, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)

I think there is a discrepancy between the way the terms are used in medicine and chemistry. The principal use of the concept in medicine is in relation to chronic diabetic complications. Since the 1970s, the term glycosylated hemoglobin has been the principal term for a clinically important blood test, and many articles have discussed the vascular damage caused by glycosylation of various tissue proteins because of high glucose levels in people with diabetes. Both of these processes are nonenzymatic Amadori rearrangements, which doesnt match your enzymatic vs nonenzymatic distinction. Perhaps this is an unresolvable terminology difference, but I haven't noticed many medical research articles observing the distinction. My undergraduate degree was biochemistry (quite) a few years ago, and my first published research was on glycosylated hemoglobin, but basic glycosylation research is not a particular interest and I haven't kept up with it. Have you seen this discussed in relation to diabetes research? Are you doing graduate school research in this area? alteripse 15:59, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• I just finished a course on glycobiology and glycochemistry and I heard a mentioned Amadori rearrangements. I'll check it as soon as I can. BTW, since I'm in Europe I've got no clue what level graduate school is, so I'll stay away from answering that. Mgm|^(talk) 22:44, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)

Graduate school is after college. You do original research and it gets you a PhD, (or an MS or MA). In the US this usually occurs between 22 and 25 years of age but I think in Europe a year or two earlier. Since glycation/glycosylation is not a very elementary topic for the first years of university chemistry, I was guessing you are farther along. alteripse 03:30, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• In that case I'm probably in graduate school. Maybe you're interested in knowing. At about age 4 kids start "elementary school" here at around 11 or 12, they go on to "middle school" (middelbare school) and after they finish that, provided they have followed a high enough grade of study in middle school they can go on to University. University should take approximately 4 or 5 years depending on the chosen subject, but most people take longer. Mgm|^(talk) 19:50, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)

User:MacGyverMagic/Desk#Gas_chromatography-Mass_spectrometry

I'm swamped in all sorts of work, could you perhaps do some cleanup on the abovementioned article? Mgm|^(talk) 10:30, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

TSH

In cancer you mentioned that blocking TSH is a hormonal treatment of thyroid cancer. I've honestly never heard of this modality. How does it work/how is it done? JFW | T@lk 14:12, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

In all forms of thyroid cancer, we treat with thyroxine not just to replace the missing hormone after removal of the thyroid, but to suppress the TSH and remove a stimulus to regrowth of the cancer. alteripse 15:15, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ahh, is it that simple? Sorry for removing it. Please make further edits as you see fit, it's done the article a lot of good. Expect the CAM people to complain about the cancer quackery (did I hear shark cartilage somewhere) link.... JFW | T@lk 15:29, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The difference between thyroxine replacement after thyroidectomy for Graves' and for cancer is that for cancer we want the TSH not just normalized but actually suppressed to near undetectable levels. Do you think there is anything inaccurate in my additions to the CAM stuff? I thought I was being generous by emphasizing the reasons for the appeal of it-- we could put their favorite phrase in there: "poison, cut, and burn"... alteripse 15:48, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No, I'm just expecting the CAM warriors to bite. Btw I didn't realise you did adult medicine as well, or do you have pediatric cases of thyroid ca in your follow-up? JFW | T@lk 16:47, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I only take care of children, but they get thyroid cancer too. alteripse 17:20, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Rarely, I hope. I'm worried about the state of our Wikiproject. Where has everybody gone? Also: I'm trying to make obesity a featured article (hopefully before cancer if all goes well). Naturally there is still lots of work; I'm presently reading a poorly written Italian paper on historical perceptions of obesity. Is there a chance you could have a look? Secondary obesity is poorly covered now, and may merit some wisdom. You probably get a lot of referrals for fat kids. JFW | T@lk 18:02, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Far more common but somehow even more depressing than thyroid cancer. I have already sort of promised myself to a couple of other articles, but perhaps eventually if I get an excessively round tuit... alteripse 18:13, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Over and undetermined Thanks for your detailed and helpful comment. I am new to this, so excuse me if I am entering this in the wrong way and the wrong place (and I don't know how to do the heading) but I have raised an issue of NPOV in regard to an aspect of your phraseology and I would appreciate your comment. It's still on the Reference page. Thanks. Jeffrey Newman 04:31, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)