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Possible arbitration
As you have now lost the vote, I am considering using arbitration to investigate whether you disobeyed the rules of wikipedia in calling for the vote (via Quickpoll). You never warned me or reiterated the three revert rules to a first time violator-so I will repeat a formerly asked question.
Do you feel you violated the rules of Wikipedia in creating the quickpoll? (why or why not)
If arbitration occurs this will be used
GrazingshipIV 03:58, Mar 24, 2004 (UTC)
- No. Kingturtle 04:12, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Would you please explain why? GrazingshipIV 04:14, Mar 24, 2004 (UTC)
- No. Kingturtle 04:20, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I must announce my disappointment. I find it hard to resolve this problem if you refuse to communicate in any meaninful way with me. GrazingshipIV 04:24, Mar 24, 2004 (UTC)
- Well, if arbitration occurs, I'll tell them :) Kingturtle 04:28, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
As you wish ;) GrazingshipIV 04:30, Mar 24, 2004 (UTC)
- Last night in an email to me, you insulted my soul. Please don't suddenly feign moral superiority 24 hours later. ;) Kingturtle 04:32, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I am not feigning anything, I am attempting to resolve this and you are refusing to answer any of my legitimate questions. What would you have me do other than take you to arbitration? I admit I was upset when I wrote that e-mail and apologize if I offended you. I was upset because I then (like now) was not made aware of what I had done wrong nor given due process. GrazingshipIV 04:36, Mar 24, 2004 (UTC)
- You prefaced your first question with the comment "If arbitration occurs this will be used." Therefore, I choose not to answer you. If arbitration occurs, I will answer their questions. Kingturtle 04:40, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC) P.S. Genuine apologies never contain the word if.
I used if because I do not know whether you were offended or not, I can't know whats in your heart. It was not meant to be offensive it was meant to express how I felt.
Here is the deal I would like answers to the basic questions that I have previously asked. I would like those answers so I can better understand what happened. I do not want to go to arbitration to get them or to understand why you took actions that I see as wrongheaded. Just explain your reasons for doing what you did please. GrazingshipIV 04:47, Mar 24, 2004 (UTC)
- Then what is with all this "If arbitration occurs this will be used" language? Kingturtle 04:49, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
It was a courtesey warning that if we could not resolve this anything you said would go along with my case to the committee. It was more of a 'heads up' then a threat. The title of the conversation is possible arbitration. I prefer mediation over arbitration any day of the week but, if need be I will submit the case.GrazingshipIV 05:03, Mar 24, 2004 (UTC)
- You give me a heads up for the possibility of arbitration, but then when I say I'll tell it to the arbitration committee, you say you don't want to go to arbitration. I am a bit confused. Kingturtle 05:07, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution recommends meditation before arbitration. Unlike some, I prefer to follow the rules. GrazingshipIV 05:13, Mar 24, 2004 (UTC)
- To which "some" are you referring? Kingturtle 05:19, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I'm referring to those who engage in vandalism, like the user I was trying to stop (in this case Anthony Dipierro). And after trying to stop him I was subject to, in my opinion, an illadvised vote that did not correspond to the stated policy.GrazingshipIV 05:26, Mar 24, 2004 (UTC)
This is my final attempt at mediation. Can you please explain to me the reasons you listed me on quickpolls? If you can just explain why you did it I will withdraw all matters that would be put before the committee. I think this is fair to ask of you and I think others will too. GrazingshipIV 17:16, Mar 24, 2004 (UTC)
Mediation
As it is clear we cannot work our problems out one on one on suggest mediation.GrazingshipIV 03:55, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
- How is it clear we can't talk? I am happy to talk to you on my talk page or in mediation. Although, I am unsure what we'd discuss in mediation. Kingturtle 03:57, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I would feel mediation in IRC chat would be best as I need real time in order to work out our obvious differences. This is within your capability. GrazingshipIV 03:59, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
- I prefer to have such discussions in the Wikipedia space. Have you contacted the Mediation Committee? Kingturtle 04:03, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
As requested the mediation committee has been contacted. Please come with an open mind when it eventually happens. Although I would still prefer a private chat on IRC chat. GrazingshipIV 04:15, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
- Private chat is not an option. I am happy to participate with the Mediation Committee. Kingturtle 04:17, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- I am unclear why the only options are an IRC chat, Mediation, or Arbitration. Why is a dialog on my Talk Page not acceptable? Kingturtle 04:24, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Dude my computer sucks this takes forever. I am constantly getting edited over because of this computer.GrazingshipIV 04:28, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
- You and I are the only ones presently editing this page. Kingturtle 04:32, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- groans: Fine. I am going to blank my page (don't report me for vandalism I will revert it when we are done) come to mine and give each other 3 minutes between each response (so I can catch up). ok? GrazingshipIV 04:36, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
Why go to all that trouble? We are already having a conversation here. Kingturtle 04:38, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Will you just come on already and stop being difficult. You want to use a talk page Let's go.GrazingshipIV 04:41, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
- I have said from the beginning, I want to use my talk page. I don't see why that is a problem. We've been talking here for 40 minutes. Kingturtle 04:45, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Can you at least compromise a little? I have compromised every step of the way. You say you do not want intermedaries then you refuse to compromise on anything. Lets do it privately on chat-No, Lets do it through a mediator on chat-NO, I want to do it on a talk page-OK how about mine where I can actually work from?-NO what gives? GrazingshipIV 04:49, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
- Er...i have said yes to talking on my talk-page, yes to mediation, and yes to arbitration. I have said no to using chat. Kingturtle 04:53, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I am being vandalized by thebam right now so I cannot continue this conversation here. please go to my talkpage. GrazingshipIV 04:59, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
- That user made one post on your page, and it was not vandalism; the user has nominated you to be an admin. Thebam's post in no way creates edit conflicts with this page here. Kingturtle 05:03, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I did not say it did created conflict here. I said I was busy with it so I could not respond. I am still trying to investigate. If you would come to my page I would be made aware everytime you said something while investigating. thebam's intentions were more than clear. GrazingshipIV 05:07, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
- We've been talking for an hour now, and you've yet to broach whatever topic it was that you feel is so vital to discuss immediately. Are you just baiting me? Kingturtle 05:12, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Baiting you for what? I am not going to open discussion until you make a concession, namely to discuss it on my page. If you do not want to discuss it fine. But I have offered you a chance mutliple times now to come and discuss this and you flatly refuse-come to my page please. GrazingshipIV 05:15, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
- I have made my terms explicit since the beginning. Either we talk here on my talk page, use mediation or use arbitration. I am happy to do any of those. I've given you an hour here. Do you have anything else to discuss? Kingturtle 05:23, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I have never seen somebody so bent on third part intervention but there it is nope. good night. GrazingshipIV 05:24, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
IRC
No, I don't use IRC. I hate having it pop up all the time when I'm logged on. In fact, I've never set up IRC on any computer I've ever used. RickK | Talk 07:00, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Please check Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship#Hcheney so you can make an informed decision on my Request for Adminship --Hcheney 17:37, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
returning spam
Hcheney has come clean with some truths regarding GrazingshipIV. You may want to reconsider your Quickpoll vote. Kingturtle 00:01, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
A Quickpoll is being held in regards to edits you recently made on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship. Kingturtle 05:04, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Looks like Graz made a slight mistake
See Wikipedia:Quickpolls/archives. Looks like Graz was posting as himself while using his User:Information Koopa sock puppet. Which probably means User:TheBam is also him. I mean, who else is going to talk about "junta style attacks"? RickK | Talk 06:06, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Interesting. Information Koopa loves the game Super Mario Bros...and tonight in IRC, Graz said to me: "I thought your name rang of super mario brothers." Kingturtle 06:09, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Yeah I am going to attack my own page. Guys get a clue. I have already tried to come to the peace table which proves fruitless so I guess petty games is the order of the day huh? I do not create sockpuppets and once more you know that. At least your not accusing me of being one for Hcheney anymore. If you think either were me please take it to a developer. Juntaism is also smearing someone publically rickk. GrazingshipIV 06:18, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
The only person who ever accused you of being a sock puppet for Hcheney was Wik. RickK | Talk 06:19, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Try anthony and I beleive others voiced suspicions rather than accusations. GrazingshipIV 06:22, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
Mediation
I have read through your discussion here after seeing the request for mediation. As I understand things, you are both willing to accept mediation but can not agree on the method? Is your only option using this talk page? Do you have any opinions on who should mediate? Tuf-Kat 20:26, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
- I am happy to utilize mediation to address our conflict. IRC is not convenient for me. My schedule varies. I cannot predict when I am online. I cannot predict when I am at a workstation that has IRC software or access. I suggest either using email or using a dedicated metapage in wikipedia. I have no qualms about this being a dialog made in public. I respect all the mediators. I have no preference for whom should mediate. Kingturtle 23:08, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
--- Hello, King, I wish to act as Mediator between you and User:GrazingshipIV, because i really want to assist both of you in resolving your dispute, thank you --Plato 05:48, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- You are not a current member of the mediation committee. I'd prefer to be mediated by Angela, Bcorr, Cimon Avaro, Dante Alighieri, Ed Poor, Ldan, llywrch, sannse, Stevertigo or TUF-KAT. Thanks, Kingturtle 06:25, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I just messaged Bcorr in resposne to your statement. I can do it today (26th) in the afternoon if you can. GrazingshipIV 06:31, Mar 26, 2004 (UTC)
- You can do it? Do what exactly? What is it that needs to be scheduled? As I said to Tuf-Kat earlier today, I suggest either using email or using a dedicated metapage in wikipedia. Kingturtle 06:34, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Hi Kingturtle -- I would be happy to work with you two. I want to propose that I create a topic (thread) on the mediation message board -- I think it functions better for this sort of thing than a wikiwiki does. If that is acceptable to you please leave a message on my talk page. I will be out of town for the day, but will be back late evening (~13 hrs from now), and assuming both of you are amenable, I will get things going and be in touch then. Thanks, BCorr|Брайен 12:55, Mar 26, 2004 (UTC)
- BCorr, that sounds great. thanks for putting in the time and effort. Kingturtle 14:41, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Why did you revert the arbitration page? The message board has no meaningful content and has a prominent notice on it stating that it is inactive. UninvitedCompany 18:45, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Because it is useful. Kingturtle 18:47, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Mediation page established
I have established a topic on the Mediation board to conduct the mediation here: http://boards.wikimedia.org/viewtopic.php?t=66
Please read through what I have posted and reply so that we can begin the process. Thanks, BCorr|Брайен 04:29, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)
One-hit wonders in the United States
Hi. I was just wondering about your revert in One-hit wonders in the United States. It wasn't just one person's edit that was affected by it and I was wondering what was the invalid data. Was the Dashboard Confessional edit? The Cathy Carr edit? or the Debbie/Debby Boone edit? Thanks.
- You had removed a legitimate entry and changed Boone's name to the wrong spelling. That is why I reverted it. Kingturtle 08:09, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- I did not. The only edit I did at the time was adding in Dashboard Confessional.
- My mistake. I just looked at the history. I'm sorry.
- No problem. No need to be sorry. Keep at it! maybe consider getting an account :) Kingturtle 08:14, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- I did not. The only edit I did at the time was adding in Dashboard Confessional.
Stub machine
What is it with 209.86.5.214 making a bunch of actor stubs and leaving them for us to clean up? Can we do anything about this? DryGrain 09:09, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- It appears that the activity was due to ignorance of our standards. As we make fixes to each stub, the user seems to be learning. I placed a welcome message for the user. I think what we need is patience and to keep teaching him/her. Kingturtle 17:23, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Admin request
I enjoyed your negative on my admin nomintaion. First time in a while I've been "praised with faint damns." ;-) Best, Cecropia 18:08, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Please don't take it personally :) I try to be fair in my support, so I have set some bars regarding time here and number of edits made. I will surely support you another time (if necessary)...and it looks like you still have a lot of support :) Kingturtle 18:12, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Understood. I just thought you did the turndown in a nice way. Much better than "well, I support this guy, but we better keep an eye on him." And right now, Anthony DiPierro is picking on me with an "abstain" that feels like a "no way!" :) Cecropia 18:47, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)
FYI
In order to comment on the mediation page bcorr created you must first "register" use your name "kingturtle" and whatever other information you wish to disclose. After registering you simply log in and post your statement. GrazingshipIV 18:59, Mar 28, 2004 (UTC)
McFly
As someone who protected it, can you tell me what is going on with this page? I couldn't really figure out what the deal was from Talk. The links looked fine to me, but Wik wants them gone and deletes them on site. I assume his objection is the website, but it seems entries for other Wiki projects are de rigueur for Wikipedia, regardless of perceived quality. I wasn't really trying to involve myself in a conflict, but it looks like I did. -- VV 00:11, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- I figured you did not have an agenda in reversions. I am not fully sure of Wik's motives, but the answer might be contained in Talk:McFly under the Why? discussion. Kingturtle 02:13, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Atlantium
Is the page important enough to justify protection? I find the editing pattern on the unprotected page to provide fascinating insight for the personalities involved. :-) -- UninvitedCompany
- The protected page forces the issue to be further discussed in TALK. You can still watch the edit patterns and glean insights by watching the TALK page. :) Kingturtle 23:04, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Provinces of Afghanistan
I am away until Sunday - shall look into it then. Morwen 06:41, Apr 1, 2004 (UTC)
Redirects for deletion
Please remove your listing of Wikipedia:Offensive User Names Havers Club from WP:VFD and place it on Wikipedia:Redirects for deletion instead.--Jiang 20:51, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Delete
Please delete Systems Thinking. Thank you. - Woodrow 22:08, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Actually, there is no reason to delete it. It is a legitimate redirect. :) Kingturtle 22:18, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- It wasn't before Jiang deleted it. But tell me: why the colon? - Woodrow 22:20, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- It probably doesn't make any difference anymore. I think a long time ago, if there was not a colon, the redirect would show up on Wikipedia:Shortpages. It might not be the case any longer, but I am still in the habit :) Kingturtle 22:24, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Handballing delation
Your deletion on the Kevin Smith reference was sort of where I was heading in my edit to that reference. I was certainly struck that handballing was in fact public knowledge well before the movie, hence my edit to say it entered modern pop culture instead. Upon reflect (prompted by your deletion) I concur that it is a POV and I should have removed it myself, instead of modifying it and trying to make it less a definitive statement about it entering public knowledge (which is demonstratively false). Good call. Lestatdelc 23:51, Apr 3, 2004 (UTC)
Vandal Zap moving Wikipedia Pages
Kingturtle, if you're still awake User:Zap! is moving around a bunch of pages like Wikipedia:Cleanup -> Wikipedia:Antiguck. Cecropia 07:05, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- You have warned the user. If it continues, create a QuickPoll and call for a 24 ban of the user. Kingturtle 07:13, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Hi, I understand why you blocked the Karl Marx page. However, if you look at the talk pages I think you will see that resolution of the problem on the talk page won't happen. Basically, TDC is taking a point of view taken by no historian who specializes on Marx. There has been lengthy discussion of why, which he has ignored. He added his views -- his personal views, I believe -- to the article. I added the views of most scholars, and cited two authoritative biographers of Marx. TDC deleted what I added, which initiated the revert war between him and 172 on April 4. Although I was not involved in that I want to point out that 172 was merely restoring content I had added, that TDC was deleting against the bulk of discussion on the talk page. I have asked Mav to consider blocking TDC, personally I think he ought to be banned (he also wrote a vulgar attack of me on my user page; so I know I have a personal bias aside from my problems with his contempt for scholarship or dialogue among contributers on the Marx page). I ask you to consider this as an alternative to protecting that page. Slrubenstein
- Consider having TDC temporarily banned by running a Wikipedia:Quickpoll. Kingturtle 03:53, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Admin
Thanks so much for the admin nomination. You might have noticed by now that I declined this time around. I am delighted, though; there are so many users and contributors here and I usually feel so anonymous (which in some cases might be a good thing, I suppose). It's nice to be noticed, appreciated, and trusted! Elf | Talk 05:29, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
80,250
In case you haven't noticed already, I hope I've answered your question appropriately at the Reference Desk :) HTH Dysprosia 05:51, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Did you know vs. In the news
You expressed interest in the front page layout on Talk:Main page. Could you please vote in the poll there? Thanks, silsor 07:25, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)
speak and type?
Hi, I moved your question here in case you hadn't seen the response yet as the village pump was a bit overcrowded. Angela. 00:03, Apr 8, 2004 (UTC)
- Does anyone know a good program that will type into a text program the words you speak into a mic? Kingturtle 02:09, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)~
- I've heard that IBM's ViaVoice (http://www-306.ibm.com/software/voice/viavoice/) is supposed to be good. There's a Speech Recognition HOWTO (http://www.gear21.com/speech/html/) if you happen to use Linux. -- Wapcaplet 02:29, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
d'oh!
Ah, poor KingTurtle! King, are you a merrikin? West Coast or East Coast? Because I bet that has something to do with us stepping on each others' toes. It's amazing--I think it's twice now--that we manage to be doing the exact same thing at the exact same time! (And coming up with totally different stuff!) :) Stupid edit conflicts! :) jengod 17:46, Apr 9, 2004 (UTC)
- I am in california :) ...no worries. Keep up the good work. Kingturtle 17:48, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Yeah, see, me too. We're both doing it when we get to work or when we leave...hmmm...I'll have to think on this. Maybe there's some way to avoid these better... jengod 17:55, Apr 9, 2004 (UTC)
Constitution proposal
I agree. However, we can at least try to keep I am sexy from trying to arbitrarily define policy towards its own benefit when it gets unblocked later tonight. - Woodrow, Emperor of the United States 19:27, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
My talk page/Signature
Hi. I'm sorry you don't like my new signature. (No sarcasm or condescension - just wanted to make that clear) I am very fond of it. I don't see your difficulty in clicking on the talk page portion as a good reason to revert since the former signature had no talk page link. I'd suggest that you feel free to click on any portion of the signature as if it were the former standard signature that puts you only on the user page and then you select "Discuss this page". Ok? - Tεxτurε 19:41, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Suikinkutsu
Hi. Thanks a lot for featuring my Suikinkutsu article on the main page (in the section "Did you know ..."). You completely made my day when I went online to check Wikipedia! Yeehaaa! -- chris_73 00:58, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Congo Free State
Hi, can you see your way to supporting Congo Free State as a featured article? I've done some work on it since your last comments. Thanks. Markalexander100 03:43, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Could you please put User:Augusta (a sockpuppet of Cantus) to a quickpoll, he reverted Shnorrer 4 times in a few minutes. --Wik 08:12, Apr 11, 2004 (UTC)
Addendum: Cantus himself now reverted Mongolia 4 times. Quickpoll him too. --Wik 08:20, Apr 11, 2004 (UTC)
- I have placed a warning on each user's talk page. This must be done before a quickpoll is made. Let me know if their behavior does not change. But also keep in mind that I might not be around. Kingturtle 23:38, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Max Schreck
This was the first article I posted. You rewrote it within hours. Thanks. The style manual etc have the theory you showed just what the theory means and how much padding I was using. But I am a politician - I'm used to using lots of words to convey a little information.garryq 11:54, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Selected anniversaries
Hail King of Turtles! I see you added Galileo to Template:April 12 selected anniversaries. However, the event you mentioned does not appear in the Galileo Galilei article. That article in fact says that his trial started on June 22, 1633 - yet Template:April 12 selected anniversaries says that he was convicted on April 12, 1633. Could you sort this out and update the pages that need to be updated? --mav 22:46, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Mav, I see the error in my ways! I lifted that bit from the April 12 page, assuming it was correct. But it is only partially correct. I will make the necessary corrections. Here are the references I am using:
- http://www.italiausa.com/italianclub/rondine/ronmay02.htm
- http://www.andrews.edu/~calkins/math/biograph/bioggali.htm
- http://www.phy.ilstu.edu/~wenning/galileo/galileo.html
Sincerely, Kingturtle 23:20, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Admin Nomination
Hello, I would appreciate your help by earning your vote as an admin. I have been here about 5 months now and have been nominated. I have made many contributions and have improved on my editing and behavior. I take this seriously, that is why I have gotten into it with Anthony so much. You can look at my user page yourself and see my contribtions. I would appreciate a vote in the yes column if you agree. Again, thanks for your time and help. ChrisDJackson 02:34, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Turning Japanese
It appears to have hit the U.K. charts in March 1980. One would not expect it to have reached the charts in the U.S. until after that. That would make it a hit of the 1980's. -- Dominus 18:44, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Congo Free State feature
Please see Congo Free State on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates. Your comments on the article's talk page seem to have been addressed. Thanks, 172 22:14, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Jim Thorpe
Hi Kingturtle, thanks for your reaction on the Jim Thorpe nomination at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates.
Could point out which parts of the text you consider to be POV? I'd like to work on improving the article. Jeronimo 06:49, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- I've tried to address the issues you mentioned on my talk page. Can you have a look? Thanks, Jeronimo 09:50, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Kingturtle, could take a look at the article again? Currently, you are the only Wikipedian that has objected to this article becoming a featured article. I'd like to know if the changes made have resolved your objection, or if it still requires work. Thanks, Jeronimo 10:20, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Corrections
Dear Kingturtle:
First at all, I would like to thank for your help in cleaning up my baseball collaborations. Right now, Chico Carrasquel & Tony Armas looks better after you did it.
In addition, you advised me that I should get some Wiki standards. It's right. I started editing Wikipedia on March 30, 2004 (Wallace Davenport), so I'm a wiki-one-month-old almost, but I'm still learning and working in it.
Basically, I am a reader, not a writer, and my main language is Spanish (some Italian and Portuguese too). Due to this, I know that sometimes my English looks some strange, but no problem. If necessary (a friend hand always is necessary) "someday someone will come along and make that new article", according your own words.
At this point, I'm sorry about disturbing some people that used intimidating advices about my collaborations. I know that some of the pages I've worked need a help. If you know anything about these subjects, please lend a hand. These are generally things I just don't know enough about to edit in English. If you can fix one up, please mention it on my talk page. I can remember that the baseball philosopher Yogi Berra said "The game's isn't over until it's over." The wiki articles neither. I try to do the best I can. Reading your note is like having a conversation with a friend.
Thanks for your fast and polite response. MusiCitizen 14:57, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for supporting my nomination as an admin...
...I appreciate it. Dpbsmith 10:21, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
RfA
I originally typed my reason, but then censored it before I pressed save. I don't think it's appropriate to say what my reservations are but equally, I thought I should say I have some. If you can think of a way of rewording it to make that clear, please do. Angela. 19:49, Apr 18, 2004 (UTC)
- "Support, slightly tentatively, but I think he can be trusted with admin powers" would have sufficed. Kingturtle 23:47, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Thanks
It's weird coming back after 6 months... so much new stuff to get to grips with. You seem to have most of it on your user page, so thanks again! -- Jim Regan 06:05, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Talk:2003
Go to Talk:2003. Look at the bottom. At the rate it is currently going, it should be down to 0 by the fall of 2004. Am I correct?? 66.32.69.46 22:51, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
GWer
Sorry I had to list your article for deletion, seems completely irrelevant and not inherently not neutral to me. Also, I think that GWB has committed such serious crimes that attacking him for his language is ridiculous. Get-back-world-respect 18:02, 1 May 2004 (UTC)
Required number of edits
Hi Kingturtle, I was looking through Requests for Adminship earlier and saw that you have opposed a few people for having too few edits. I was just wondering what you think is an acceptable minimum number of edits, or minimum edits per time period or whatever for someone to be considered for adminship? On RfA Meelar asks the same question but I can't find an answer on your or their talk page or on the talk page for RfA, although by now your answer could of course have been archived.
Cheers -- Ams80 10:17, 2 May 2004 (UTC)
- Hi, in my opinion, one should have at least 2 1/2 months here and over 3,000 edits (not including talk pages) in the last six months. I feel this gives enough breadth of a history to judge the person's capabilities and capacities. Kingturtle 17:05, 2 May 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks for processing my adminship, even though you didn't support it :-). I certainly see where you're coming from with your views. Most people support some lower limit to the number of edits - your standard is just higher. 3000 is pretty high, but those who meet it would certainly be excellent candidates for admin. It is a standard that you yourself meet. Even though you didn't side with my adminship, thank you for caring. --Brian Rock 23:57, May 2, 2004 (UTC)
- Brian, it was nothing personal against you. I have just made an arbitrary bar in my mind. Keep up the good work! Kingturtle 00:14, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
- Understood. Talk to you later! --Brian Rock 00:26, May 3, 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks for the answer Kingturtle. I've just been looking at the images on your user page, it's nice to see such high quality images making their way into Wikipedia. Good work! -- Ams80 09:22, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks for processing my adminship, even though you didn't support it :-). I certainly see where you're coming from with your views. Most people support some lower limit to the number of edits - your standard is just higher. 3000 is pretty high, but those who meet it would certainly be excellent candidates for admin. It is a standard that you yourself meet. Even though you didn't side with my adminship, thank you for caring. --Brian Rock 23:57, May 2, 2004 (UTC)
There's been a lot of discussion regarding your 3000+ standard for adminship. I don't agree with your standard -- but if you believe it's an appropriate bar, then I encourage you to keep voting according to that belief. I don't think you should conform your standards to match the majority, in this case; I think the presence of distinct opinions ensures that the process surrounding adminship remains a lively discussion, and not simply a "confirmation hearing." More often than not, you and I will probably be on opposite sides -- but I encourage you to vote according to your beliefs. Cribcage 23:26, 9 May 2004 (UTC)
Abu Ghruaib
Please stop redirecting the page. I'm trying to create a disambig page to distinguish between the current facility, the Saddam facility and the town of Abu Ghuraib. Please leave the page alone until I'm finished. AndyL 23:08, 2 May 2004 (UTC)
Ronald Reagan
and the only President to have married a pregnant woman.
- Do we know that for a fact? ;) RickK 03:01, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
- We do know for a fact....unless one of the first ladies had an abortion we don't know about. the proof is in the pudding. Ronald and Nancy were married March 4, 1952. Patti was born October 22, 1952, and she was not a premmie. Kingturtle 04:09, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
Hi. I did some checking and asked my boss. First, see Goering's defense summarized in Persico, p. 271. Also, Telford Taylor's The Anatomy of the Nuremberg Trials is supposedly the best book out there. I am taking it home with me tonight. Let me know if I can find you any more information. Danny 14:16, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
Mediation
The arbitration committee has referred the issues of Anthony's reverts and alleged trolling to the mediation committee. It's been suggested that you may have an interest in this matter so, if you would like to be involved in mediation on these issues please leave a message at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation. Regards -- sannse (talk) 19:45, 5 May 2004 (UTC) (mediation committee).