User talk:JamesMLane

I have drafted a proposal for a new voluntary association on Wikipedia (joining groups like the Wikipedia:The Business and Economics Forum and the Wikipedia:Harmonious editing club) to promote discussion of a sort of system of expert review on Wiki. Please take a look and add your ideas. 172 02:42, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Michael Bluejay and others attack Aesthetic Realism entry

I tried to write you directly, hope you got the message. I asked if you realize there is a concerted attack. I asked you now if you can, in all honesty, permit it to go on without intervention. The attacker(s) have only one objective. They are not interested in knowledge particularly but in smearing--adeptly using quotes out of context to convey a bizarre picture. As an attorney I trust you can detect the ill-will that is impelling these sometimes jocular, always angry attacks.

Arnold Perey

irregularities title

What's up, I didn't exactly understand your vote about the naming for the title... not a flame, I just didn't understand what you meant. Does this mean you want to keep the title as it is? I would just like to add "voting" somewhere in the title so it excludes other possible election controversies, as "2004 U.S. Election controversies and irregularities" seems to be able to include pretty much anything, including the debate topics. Voting seems to narrow the focus enough. What do you think? --kizzle 20:58, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea, except I don't think you're going to get too much support for statistical analysis, because that seems like a prime target for people who think this page is original research, but I'm ok with it. --kizzle 21:47, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)

Oh, so now you found a better source on the ohio recount you think you're better than I am? ;) --kizzle 13:39, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

Chess

Thanks for pointing out the anomaly. I stand corrected.

sbvt talk archives

fixed. it was just a problem with the move not recognizing subpage syntax. Wolfman 21:11, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Contest

Posted on User_talk:ClockworkSoul

To TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsClockworkTroll: Thanks for giving us all a good chuckle with your contest! You're a prince. JamesMLane 06:30, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

It was a blast to have! Plus, I like my shiny new name! ClockworkSoul 06:33, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

apeman

Hi. Just wanted to let you know I turned Apeman from a redirect to a disambig as we both suggested on the VfD page. As you had some interest I thought I'd let you know and encourage you to check it out and see if you think it needs any work. -R. fiend 17:06, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

If you think some of the specific hominids should be mentioned then you can and add them if you wish. I was hesitant to; apeman being an unscientific term I didn't want to have to play specifics about what should be included as an "apeman" vs. early human. I thought I might ask my father (a professor of evolutionary biology) but I think he'd frown on the term "apeman" altogether in such context. But thanks for your input. And if you can think of other examples (particularly in fiction; I swear there are more. Morlocks? I forget how ape-like they were in the novel) throw them in there. -R. fiend 22:15, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Re: kryptonite lock

...Ooops, Good point, I've changed that paragraph accordinglyDhodges 06:24, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Request IRC chat

I am requesting IRC chat on #wikipedia. Kevin Baas | talk 23:15, 2004 Dec 4 (UTC)

Multi-Licensing

The multi-licensing template has recently been clarified to read: "I agree to multi-license my text contributions, unless otherwise stated, ..." Someone had pointed out that it wasn't clear (a) which contributions were included (media files are not included by default) and (b) whether the notice takes priority over other notices. In the the case of (b), the "unless otherwise noted" clause should make this quite clear. I don't know if that makes a difference to you and your notice on your page, but I thought I'd mention it anyway. -- Ram-Man (comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)| talk) 13:47, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)

Meetup

Your name is on the list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC for December 12. In case you forgot to check the page, the venue and time have been both been set. We are planning on meeting at the Moonstruck Diner at 1:30pm. Just wanted to let you know. -- – Ram-Man ^{(comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)) (talk)}[[]] 23:08, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

2004 U.S. election voting controversies

This is quite good work I must say. This definately clears out most of the clutter and presents the information in a manner that is both concise and relevant. I could certainly support this wholeheartedly. You are correct that we still disagree on daughter pages, but if any such pages are as well done as this one, I would put such quibbles aside in any renewed VFD vote for the sake of community unity. Indrian 03:28, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)

Bobby Fischer

The problem with making Bobby Fischer into a "chess champion" is that he ceases to be a human being. By taking out the theme which HE clearly makes plain that his life was divided into two parts and the second part governed the first, it is impossible to understand Fischer. These are not just religious beliefs the way they have been restyled they are his life and governed everything. Also removed is the reason WHY Fischer would not play in 1972 and by removing all of that text the article go back to confusion. The reason why he would not play when overlaid on the timetable is because his whole world had just come crashing down and he eventually turned into the hostile and suspicious person that he is today. This article makes Fischer into a cardboard chess piece. I do not wish to get into any sort of revert war so I am writing to you here. Would you like to discuss this a little more? Obviously it is easier and quicker to wade in and delete than it is to create something and by just wiping out half of my text without offering anything new leads to creative frustration on my part. I would like to discuss this matter further with you with a view to resolution that we can both agree with. MPLX/MH 06:13, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

summary article

I like what you've done, however I do think you need about 2 more paragraphs on each subject, ideally we should use your article as kind of a "portal" to go to the other articles in depth. This month is hell for me, I think when I get a chance i'm going to try to help out on the summary aticle... I don't know if you've already done it but the subsections should mirror the sub-pages and soon-to-be subpages of the main page. Good work :) --kizzle 06:33, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)

Hey, I was thinking, if we use a summary article as a starting point, do you want to put back in pre-election night controversies (i.e. debate stuff), so as to have one place where all the 2004 U.S. election controversies can go? Using short summaries, it would all fit. Just a thought. --kizzle 03:13, Dec 12, 2004 (UTC)

Licensing categories

You could always try moving the licensing information to a subpage like User:JamesMLane/Copyright or User:JamesMLance/Licensing. You could also COPY the information to the subpage and delete just the categories from your main user page. – Ram-Man ^{(comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)) (talk)}[[]] 18:18, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)

category name

I want to start a category for govenment watchdog groups such as Judicial Watch, Project on Government Oversight, Center for Public Integrity, Common Cause, etc. The obvious category is "Government watchdog organizations", but I'm not sure the word "watchdog" is really neutral. Another possibility is "Government accountability organizations", but that is a bit narrower in scope and less clear. I'm stumped. Does any better name for such a category spring to mind for you? Thanks. Wolfman 19:18, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Good point. I guess I'll go with "U.S. government watchdog groups". "Oversight" somehow implies an official sanction to me. If anyone objects, I suppose the category can always be renamed. Thanks again. Wolfman 20:02, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Ok, sounds good. Government watchdog groups in the U.S. Wolfman 20:40, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

"Dry Drunk"

Your right, I guess two of the other three articles, lulled me into giving that one short shrift. Thanx for catching that.--Silverback 16:32, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

"first rate" vs. "second rate"

You made my day with that edit summary. Cheers, --MarkSweep 17:26, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Sollog

Over at the Sollog article there's been mention of a federal court case involving the subject of the article. All we've got is a case number, 96CV 1499, and I can't coax anything from Lexis about this article, but I've always been crappy at legal research. Perhaps you could give us a hand if you have some spare wiki time? Thanks. Gamaliel 00:38, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Yes, the VfD discussion should be linked from the talk page - it was there at some point, but must have been lost in one of the many refactorings. I'll re-add it. Cheers --Rlandmann 22:13, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Tucson, Arizona

Hi James,

First let me say that I have great respect for your vote. You seem to me to be genuinely interested in convention, while some other people seem interested in playing down the importance of the O'odham language or discussing more specific, irrelevant issues.

Second off, I have a couple of responses to your comment.

While New York City does not include Nieuw Amsterdam in the first sentence, there is an entire article at Nieuw Amsterdam, and it's actually fairly long. There is no such article for Cuk Ṣon, and I don't think there should be - there's not a whole lot that could go there that doesn't belong at Tucson.
While Nieuw Amsterdam is indeed another name for New York, it isn't often used in a modern context as a reference to the city by any of its residents or by anybody living within a couple of hundred miles (to my knowledge). I'm not sure popular Dutch usage in the Netherlands is even to call it "Nieuw Amsterdam" - I have a sneaking suspicion that most Hollanders call it "Nieuw York", and perhaps the same is true of Hollandophone New Yorkers. In addition, when the name IS used in English-language literature, it is often written "New Amsterdam", and usually refers to the Dutch colonial era of New York. Cuk Ṣon, on the other hand, is used in a modern context by speakers of O'odham to refer to Tucson, past *and* present, and English usage is almost 0. (edit: Haha, indeed! The article on the Dutch Wikipedia is titled New York, and the name "Nieuw Amsterdam" isn't even mentioned as far as I can see... wow)
While the indigenous inhabitants of most of what is now the US have been at least decimated, the entire Southwest (Arizona, New Mexico) escaped that fate almost entirely, having much more interactions with the much kinder Mexicans (most Mexicans are at least part American indigine, so it would be a different context, plus the ways of life were more similar), until the late 1800s and early 1900s. For this reason, the percentage of Native American languages in the Southwest which are in serious danger of extinction or are already extinct is very low, and is almost exclusively limited to languages spoken on the Arizona-California border (Mojave, Chemehuevi, Yuma, etc. - but even some of these are doing relatively well). The two largest - by far - "Indian reservations" in the United States are both located in Arizona, the Navajo Nation and the Tohono O'odham Nation, both taking up huge chunks of land. Many other reservations in Arizona and New Mexico rank among the largest in the country - Hopi (that's the name of the reservation, just "Hopi"), the Hualapai Indian Reservation, the Havasupai Indian Reservation, the San Carlos Apache and White Mountain Apache reservations... all very huge. Now, in case you stopped reading or started skimming (I feel I'm rambling now), I will get to the point (so you can notice that there if you don't want to read all that above): Native speakers of O'odham represent a significant chunk of the population of the Greater Tucson Area (between 7 and 15%), and they all call the place Cuk Ṣon. If you include O'odham in the Mexican portion of the Tohono O'odham Nation (yes, it's that big, it spans the border), for many of whom Tucson is where you are going when you are "going into town", it's more like 15-20%, although I wouldn't use that figure normally. So the name is very relevant, and I believe for that reason it deserves treatment similar to that of minority language names at articles on Frisian cities, some articles on Polish cities, articles on some German places, some French places, and some British places, where it is included in parentheses right after the English name. --Node 22:42, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment

Thank you for your comment. I was really soliciting comment only from the individual concerned. Someone else gave a link into that user's talk page from a much more popular page, which probably accounts for why there are so many other comments on there.

There are more public fora for a wider consultation, and there are a number of issues that I feel may warrant a wider hearing. But I do not like the idea of doing it on a "named" basis. I have no desire to cause the individual concerned more public embarrassment than he has already warranted. But there are a couple of issues that may warrant a wider audience. These issues are:

1. If a Wikipedian (WPian A) invites a user to perform a background search to prove a point, is it not reasonable for other Wikipedians (WPian B) to do so and to report on the outcome of that search insofar as it is relevant? It is accepted that the following would be unreasonable: (a) where WPian A does not request or volunteer such a search, and WPian B uses info from such a search against Wpian A; (b) any such search that goes outside the scope of that volunteered by WPian A; (c) information uncovered that is not relevant to WPian A's argument or position on Wikipedia being used against WPian A.

[The facts here are that WPian A was arguing he had no conflict of interest and invited an internet background search. An internet background search was performed that showed that WPian A had been publicly censured for giving rise to and not recognised a conflict of interest.]

2. Is it reasonable to have someone in the role that we are discussing who has been publicly censured for "conflict of interest" and for "engaging in acts prejudicial to the administration of justice"?

[My answer is yes - yours may well be no. But here I am only suggesting opening up the discussion wider, not arguing the point.]

As noted above, I am thinking about raising these issues in the abstract. At present, I have not thought of a good way of doing so. If you can think of good ways of asking the abstract question, please let me know. Also, let me know if you think these points are of so little interest (bearing in mind the position those who come across this user will find themselves in), please let me know too - though in the latter instance, I'd be interesting to know why. Kind regards, jguk 16:00, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I shall return

Thanks for the kind words, James. I'm sure I'll be back. But, I've been using this as a crutch to avoid dealing with my real life, and frankly it's a mess. Now that it's semester break, and I can over-indulge, my weakness has become a real handicap. I'm trying to make myself stay off for at least a couple months; we'll see how it goes. Obviously, I haven't quite managed to break the habit yet, as I couldn't help checking in today. Oddly enough, I've grown quite fond of a bunch of people I've never even met, particularly my fellow veterans of the Rex wars. Speaking of which, you might keep a friendly eye on your sockpuppet. Best to take such comments seriously, in my sad experience, without over-dramatizing them. Wolfman 04:42, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hmmm... so JML is "Feldspar" Ha! I knew it! 216.153.214.94 04:50, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

On to Hiroshima

Thanks for the invite, James. I went over and took a quick look at the Hirshima article; I will put some suggestions on the talk page when I have sufficient time to do a decent job of it. Thanks for your vote on the Tucson article. --Gary D 02:05, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)

Slashdot

No problem.

Well done on making your first +5 :-)

James F. (talk) 15:09, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Tucson, Arizona and more

Hi. I saw that you voted on the RFC regarding Tucson, Arizona, and I thought you might be interested in commenting on a broader application of the formatting to other city articles. The discussion (for now) is at Talk: Tucson, Arizona#Other Arizona and nearby cities. (It might get moved to WikiProject Cities, if there's interest in doing so.) Thanks! kmccoy (talk) 02:18, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Kaij Mek

It was suggested by somebody on some talkpage (either Tucson or Mesa) that if the vast majority of the people in a place called it one thing, and it's not widely known outside of that place (had you heard of that place by either name before you saw the article? Most Arizonans haven't either), that the styleguide suggests that that should be the first name given. --Node 00:59, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Links

Thanks for the sub page suggestion, but I probably would have ended up throwing a {{db}} on that in my user space, anyway, so it really didn't have much benefit either way. Anyway, I'm glad I was able to help. - Vague | Rant 07:30, Dec 28, 2004 (UTC)

RFC

If you don't mind me asking, I'd appriciate your support at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Mbecker. Thanks. — マイケル ₪ 04:40, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)

WikiProject New York City

Hello, I've started WikiProject New York City, and from your edits it seems you might be interested. See its talk page for the beginning of a discussion on the standardization of neighborhood names, and bringing New York City up to featured status.--Pharos 13:40, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

chickenhawk

excellet work fixing the chickenhawk pages. cheers, Kingturtle 22:53, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for reformatting Diplomacy's links

I cringed when I saw them, but I didn't feel up to changing them around. Ground 01:46, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I think the reason you saw no Diplomacy stuff at the "njudge" link is because there was a space between the directory name's slash and "njudge". This item may have been up for VfD recently, and the early "delete" votes may have been caused by its own article having the same bad link, if I recall correctly. Please recheck the URL without the space. If that's the njudge, which is valid and notable enough for the Diplomacy page's bottom links but not for its own WP article, then please consider editing the link back in, with the extra space removed. Thanks for helping edit the article! Barno 20:15, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

VVAW and WSI debate

I am sorry but where do you get off pushing your nose into this debate? This is a pretty clear cut copyright violation dispute (I have many more examples other that what was given on the sample page). Instead of banning this user what is, and let me repeat incase it has not sunk in yet, A CLEAR CASE OF CAPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT/PLAGARISM, everyone goes out of their way to fucking coddle him?

Please, do us all a favor and stay out of this, because as long as this user stays on, this revert war will not end. TDC 05:18, Jan 9, 2005 (UTC)

Las Vegas

I replied to your comments on the Las Vegas user talk page. — DV 04:10, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

P.S.: While I was here, I fixed Merovingian's infection of your user talk page with his runaway font color tag, that was causing the remainder of your page to have a strange color. I hope he updates that darn thing! — DV 04:10, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

expand summary article

I will have some time over the next few days to take your article and break up the current one into daughter articles if you want to help me, so that we can present a fully-fleshed reorganization starting with your summary article rather than arguing over it in the talk page with ryan.--kizzle 23:12, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)

I have come to the conclusion that I am either crazy, stupid, or speaking a diffferent language form the controversies discussions. --kizzle 21:33, Jan 26, 2005 (UTC)

Social Security (United States)

I don't always agree with your POV on this article, but I would like to say that your work there is good and is appreciated. Many thanks. Stirling Newberry 16:24, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I think the article is in good hands with you. I won't be editting it much because at this point I am a paid partisan.

Stirling Newberry 16:37, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

George W. Bush

A mess, isn't it? Rick K 09:01, Jan 27, 2005 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that date vandalism didn't get caught by several people who were reverting vandals, and got kept over several reverts. That was why I made the attempt to get back to a solid version, but I don't think it worked, either. Rick K 09:13, Jan 27, 2005 (UTC)

Kudos on your Dubya article work

Good Job James, we've got a two pronged attack from both the idiots on our side who think calling Bush dirty names will help anything, and from Right Wing censors like [MONGO] who are trying to use Wiki as a Propanganda device.

Thanks for being an inspiration to newbie Wikipedians such as myself! --Karmafist 02:12, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Speaking of MONGO, is there any way we can stop him from censoring by reversion?

--Karmafist 05:56, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hey, some admin is trying to intimidate me from editing the Bush page, here's what he said...

"==POV warning== - If I see you adding any more POV edits to the George W. Bush page, you will be banned from Wikipedia. I'm not playing around. Hadal 14:25, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC) "

Who can I complain to about this guy? Obviously that kind of threat isn't how normal admins talk, is it? --Karmafist 03:49, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for sticking up for me James, I completely agree with you. He even added an external link for the "Dry Drunk" debate! Maybe we are making difference in there...'

--Karmafist 14:56, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Golden Nugget (resort)

James, thank you for fixing that link to the Landry's Restaurants press release announcing the acquition of the Golden Nugget Las Vegas. I don't understand why it suddenly stopped working on the landrysseafood.com domain it was working for most of the day. Again thanks for catching that error. Misterrick 00:02, 06 February 2005 (UTC)

request for help

What's up. I have always respected your ability to stay relatively neutral (as compared to the rest of us) in dealing with the facts and not letting personal opinions sway your edits from the truth, and I take with me from you that it is better to tell the truth, for better or worse towards your argument, and let it stand up for itself. I'm trying to put together a framework for a screenplay version of the 2004 U.S. Election Controversy page that I want to write, and I was wondering if you'd be interested in contributing to it. My intent is basically, if I had 2 hours to tell someone what went wrong in the election, what would I say? Not only do I need someone to double-check that my sources are not dubious, but I need someone to help me fill in the missing pieces that I can't see. Nothing would make me happier then if you every once in a while told me that some source I'm using has been discredited, or there's an additional rebuttal that I'm missing, or that any part, whether general or specific is most probably false. Also, I'm trying to fit the general layout of the movie as if it were a criminal on trial, in that the movie acts as a prosecutor building a case through preliminary evidence (the trail), motive, means, opportunity... and seeing as you're an attorney, your input would be greatly appreciated. I'm willing to do 90% of the work, but however much you would like to contribute I would appreciate it. It's going to be somewhat parallel to the current article, except that it frames an argument and draws conclusions (which wikipedia cannot do), and its target audience is towards a movie audience, in that we cannot wikilink to outside concepts, and thus the content needs to be self-contained. If you're not interested at all, feel free to tell me to bugger off, I won't be offended :) User:Kizzle/smoke--kizzle 01:00, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)

I finished a rough draft of the exit polls section, if you have some free time I'd like to know what you think and where I can do better. I have much to do in the actual verbiage of the page, so just focus on the argument being presented. --kizzle 19:41, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)

it begins: [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Neutrality/workshop_III&diff=prev&oldid=11123118)

this page is looong

What's your archive policy? Kevin Baas^talk 15:23, 2005 Feb 17 (UTC)

Killian

As you have recently expressed interest in this article, please see Talk:Killian_documents#A_poll. Wolfman 18:38, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Social Security

You asked about the sort of thing that I do in the social security fight, this is public example of the sort of work that is going on behind the scenes. [2] (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/22/111240/237)

Global

Global Warming

That was a helpful reorganization of the global warming page. Thanks. :) It had grown in need of some reorganization to better clarify the major issues involved. — Cortonin | Talk 09:32, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Heh, whoops. My bad. I misread the diffs. Well, thanks for fixing that typo and header capitalization then. :) — Cortonin | Talk 18:16, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the modesty on GW (though dodging a firestorm might mean you are wiser than I). The cabal on the page is right now using a revert war to prevent the changes and even prevent escalation to the larger wikicommunity. I believe that some larger consensus is needed there, and that discussion has broken down. (Side note, you have one of my favorite prints on your user page) Best. Stirling Newberry 18:36, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Genealogy

Cribbswh 13:28, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I disagree that Genealogy is not relevent to the New York article. New York-specific genealogy is as much relevent as New York history or New York economy. There are many who look for state-specific information, including genealogy, and having quality resources to refer them to is a good thing.

Killian

Repeat3: No originals have been released, only photocopies of "unsubstantiated provenance"

Received your 3RR message. Please see Killian Documents Talk Page and respond to dialog comments there. 216.153.214.94 07:04, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hello, I'd appreciate a comment on the talk page about my proposed (large) change. Since you and Zenmaster have been the most active debaters w/r/t my changes in general, I wanted your input before considering a large edit. I'll post this at Zen's too, but I think my proposal in no way affects the POV of the article; I just want to move the details of the typographic arguments off the page while keeping a summary of same with a pointer to (See: Typographical arguments...etc). I think it will make the article much more readable, and again, without changing the POV. Kaisershatner 14:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanx for your work against the move vandal.

--Silverback 11:26, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, indeed! Best wishes, -Willmcw 11:32, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)

Re: Rex

No problem, I see it's not the first time you've had difficulty with this user! Anilocra 16:46, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I'd have no problem with simply blocking his (unique) IP address(es). If he wants to make legitimate edits, he can do so under his Rex account. Right now he's hiding behind an IP to escape accountability for his vandalism, and I have no problem with blocking someone like that. Neutrality^talk 23:41, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

That's bunk and Neutrality knows it. One does not have to log-in, in order to edit. 216.153.214.94 03:52, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/District Attorney's Office

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that Wikipedia:District Attorney's Office has been moved to (what we hope is its final stop) Wikipedia:Association of Member Investigations. We're working on refining and improving our organisation and message. As such, I thought I'd ask that you consider giving your vote on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/District Attorney's Office a second thought. Thanks! :-) [[User:Blankfaze|]] 23:54, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Terri Schiavo

Hi. I think you may have inadvertently added your contribution over at Terri Schiavo to a vandalized version and I have reverted it. Couldn't really find what you added because it was such a mess. Please add it again. Preisler 15:46, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

ArbCom case

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Rex071404 3 is now open. Please add evidence at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Rex071404 3/Evidence. --mav 02:12, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Lancaster

Hello Mr Lane... The anon here... From our previous discussions regarding the Palmdale article, I would assume that you are a Wiki Administrator. I would like to talk with you about something regarding the Lancaster page. If you look on the discussion page for the disambiguation page, you could probably follow what has been happening...

Basically here is the overview... There is some Brit with the screenname User:Duncharris that changed the Lancaster link to go to the English city instead of the disambiguation page. So I changed it back and gave him my reasons for doing so, which is that there are 3 Lancasters in the world that are important, 4 if you include the Ohio city. Although the English city is the original, the Pennsylvania city is the most thought of when using the term, and the California city is the largest. All three of these cities could give credability to having the primary link. As I see it, all three are equal in importance and therefore the link should go to the disambiguation page, the way it was originally up to a few weeks ago. I also explained that there are cities out there that are greater than any of these Lancasters combined that have to share a disambiguation page like San Jose. So if neither San Jose can have precedence, how can a particular Lancaster? Well, he changed it back again, so now I wish for a Wiki administrator to get involved so that it can be changed back the way it was originally and have the page protected from this arrogant British biased vandalism. Thanx... --Anon 02:41, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

Detractor websites

Hello Mr. Lane. Glad we could agree on how to handle the issue. That was an excellent suggestion and you made the Ann Coulter page look how I actually intended. Have a good one. Equinox137 14:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

GWB alcohol section

Thanks for adding some good solid fact on a touchy subject. Hopefully all the Bush lover and haters can leave it be and just accept what is truth. But then again, that never happens... Harro5 (talk • contribs) 08:16, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

another vote

Talk:9/11_domestic_conspiracy_theory#Title_vote_.28various_options.29 Kevin Baas^{talk: new (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kevin_baas&action=edit&section=new)} 19:56, 2005 May 2 (UTC)

Thanks for rescuing the Aesthetic Realism article

Thanks very much for rescuing the Aesthetic Realism article. (We'll see how long it lasts....) I have no problem with the Aesthetic Realists telling their story, I just want the opposing side represented. I don't even expect the opposing side to have an equal amount of space, I just think it should exist. That's probably the biggest difference between the AR people and me -- I prefer that people get both sides of the story. They prefer to present only their side.

Most distressing is their "two ships passing in the night" form of debate. I say that AR is a cult, and they say, "No, this is a philosophy founded by an acclaimed poet." When did I ever dispute that? I've never criticized the *philosophy* of AR (besides their description of homosexuality as mental illness), I've critized *the method in which they promote its study*, which is definitely cult-like. (And of course, several other former members all say the same thing on my site.) But the AR people rarely acknowledge that criticism, they pretend it's an attack on the philosophy of AR itself, which it's not. Many of the former member/critics on my website say the same thing.

And I guess their behavior became pretty clear when you simply tried to add neutrality and they reacted like it was an attack. They're predictable, I'll give them that.

Anyway, thanks again for your help. Michaelbluejay 05:52, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Magellan

Thanks for your fix. - Taxman 19:23, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

Aesthetic Realists strike back

Thanks for your comment, but I don't think I can claim to have rescued the article. As you'll see from my comment on Talk:Aesthetic Realism, I've followed your lead in giving up on trying to make it a good article.I'm curious, though, about the size of the group. Is there any hard evidence anywhere? I would've thought it was bigger than the 120 that (I think) you estimated). My perspective may be bent, though, because I live in Manhattan, where I gather they're strongest. For a while I patronized a bicycle shop (Conrad's) where the "Victim of the Press" buttons were to be seen. JamesMLane 06:23, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

No problem, I don't expect you to be vigilant about maintaining the integrity of an article that nearly no one will ever read. Heck, I'm an interested party, and I gave up myself, pretty much.

As to the size of the group, the estimate isn't mine -- I'm in contact with many former students, some of whom left only recently, and they let me know what's going on. In its heydey of the 70's the group had several hundred members (whoops, "students"), but they've really dwindled. Check out one of their weekly presentations and see how many people are there. Basically, they've been unsuccessful at getting new believers, so as the students die or wise up and leave, they're not being replaced. They're doomed, even if I did nothing.

As for being their being "strongest" in Manhattan, that's the ONLY place they are! Sure, people phone in from all over the world to have consultations, but there's no established presence anywhere else but the Village. The reason is simple: They can't control anything that happens outside their little sphere. When my family moved to Texas my mother tried to start an AR study group there. Were the AR people elated that she was spreading AR to another state? No, they couldn't control it. She got no support at all.

I'll have to check out Conrad's when I'm in NYC this summer. I'm an avid commuter bicyclist myself.

I liked your comments to Perey: Let the community decide what's NPOV. Perey is so laughably POV that the only people who can't see that are him and the other ARists.

Regarding "The Obvious Bias of James M Lane" -- I would say of course you're biased, inasmuch as you couldn't help avoid noticing Perey's blatant feelings of persecution and his fear of fair play. Michaelbluejay 10:35, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Hello. I thought you might have an opinion on this: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Arnold Perey - Jonathunder 20:10, 2005 Jun 9 (UTC)

LVwiki and GFDL compliance

RE: GFDL compliance

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Axis of evil

If you want to revert my edit, I have no problem with that. I just wanted to make the actual quote stand out. I did glance at the Talk page, but couldn't see any mention of formatting. AlistairMcMillan 23:21, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Re: the Bluejay writing

Can't you see, Mr. Lane, that there is a concerted attack in progress?

In all honesty, don't you want to do something about it?

Arnold Perey

As to what should be done, let's consider an example from last summer. There was a concerted attack against John Kerry about his Vietnam service. We did something about it. We reported the criticisms, properly attributed, and the responses, properly attributed, and presented the evidence cited by each side. I invite your attention to the article on John Kerry military service controversy. It isn't perfect, but it's far, far better than any version of the Aesthetic Realism article that you've championed.

Now, here's what should not be done: We should not suppress all information that AR students and consultants (is that the preferred phrase?) find disquieting or unwelcome, on the theory that "Aesthetic Realism is a beautiful thing and should be protected, not maligned." That comment on the talk page completely misunderstands the mission of Wikipedia. We aren't here to protect AR any more than we're here to malign it. We're here to inform about it. That includes fairly reporting on the views of notable critics. You think Bluejay is a liar with bad motivations? Well, feel free to think so. That's what I think about those "Swift Vet" sleazeballs who tried to do a hatchet job on Kerry. I would never agree with censoring their views, though. JamesMLane 21:02, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Trey Stone and Davenbelle

Hi! Trey Stone has Requested Arbitration with me:

You are mentioned in evidence that I have presented and I'm bringing this to your attention. Comments and evidence of your own are welcome.

Sincerely, Davenbelle 01:06, May 14, 2005 (UTC)

Street addresses

FYI, I posted a question about this at the The village pump. No comments yet. Vegaswikian 05:39, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Queen Elizabeth II

Please note that I have disputed the neutrality of this article. Jguk reverted my NPOV template, claiming that the NPOV dispute is just a personal campaign of one person. Whig 09:46, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

vote at GWB article

I invite your vote at the George Bush article [[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:George_W._Bush#Vote_on_Drug_and_alcohol_section)]--MONGO 05:56, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Mediation

I just wanted to ask you: do you wish to be considered a disputant on Aesthetic Realism? – Clockwork Soul 22:17, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Hello, JamesMLane. It does in fact make things a great deal easier when there are a number of disputants. I'm also very glad that you're willing to help out with the article.

Finally, regarding your odd experience trying to reply on my talk page: I repeated what you said you did, and got the same result. I have no idea what causes it, but it's probably some odd bug in the software. Well, no harm done. – Clockwork Soul 00:07, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

My apologies: I accidentally ommitted the word "smaller", as in "It does in fact make things a great deal easier when there is a smaller number of disputants." I'm sorry about the confusion, my mind has been elsewhere lately. – Clockwork Soul 00:48, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

George W. Bush

I had to revert your change, because it left an insult in the first line. Sorry! I don't know where you were reverting to, so I left it for you to sort out. Smoddy (Rabbit and pork) 14:14, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

MacGregor/TIPT

Besides its corporate training and (so far nonexistent) distance learning programs, Toronto Institute of Pharmaceutical Technology lists four training programs [4] (http://www.tipt.com/academic/academic_qaqc.htm) [5] (http://www.tipt.com/academic/academic_rd.htm) [6] (http://www.tipt.com/academic/academic_pt.htm) [7] (http://www.tipt.com/academic/academic_hplc.htm). Three of these say that a Canadian B.Sc. is required (apparently any B.Sc.) while one only requires you to have completed Grade 12. I recognize this as a common tactic among educational providers of this type — essentially, selling a lightly-regarded vocational program by creating an impression that the school itself is more prestigious and focused on more advanced training, when in fact these advanced programs barely exist, if at all. --Michael Snow 16:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Yes, sorry, I initially misread your post-secondary as meaning post-graduate. I don't really want this to focus on bright-line rules as to what kinds of schools are notable; I don't want to categorically exclude an elementary school, or even a preschool, but I also don't want to categorically include all run-of-the-mill corporate and vocational schools. --Michael Snow 16:36, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Social Security

For some reason, the page came up as an older version, and that is what I edited. The current page is good, and your revert was entirely correct. My mistake. --Goodoldpolonius2 23:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Spitzer

Thank you for the embarassing correction on the Spitzer article. Must have been an overzealous staff member. Nobs01 19:34, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Request

Hello, James. Is it possible for you to update the John Kerry and John Kerry military service controversy with the information from the report here (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/06/07/kerry_allows_navy_release_of_military_medical_records/) (regarding Kerry's SF-180 records release)? I'd do it myself, but you seem to be the expert in these matters. With warm regards --Neutrality^talk 03:41, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

P.S.: I left a message for our friend Rex. Neutrality^talk 03:42, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

Bush article introduction

I think the mention of Bush's professional sports dealings should be further down and not in the intro. After all, his stake in the Rangers was only 1.8 percent, and his involvement in the petroleum industry was much more significant. Space is at a premium in the intro, and I think we ought to conserve space for the basic facts:

Full name
Date of birth
American politician
Current U.S. president
Member of prominent Bush family
Republican
Governor of Texas
Defeated John McCain and then Al Gore in the most contested election in U.S. history
September 11 attacks
Defeated John Kerry in 2004 to win a second four-year term

--Neutrality^talk 19:34, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

Ownership interest is not relevant. What is relevant is whether or not he was an active or silent partner, and if this was a full time or near full time job. Similarly, he has a .0000000003% ownership interest in the USA (as we all do) but his current full time job (working for the USA) is very relevant. NoSeptember ^(talk) 19:53, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Maybe we should move this discussion to the article talk page. My reasons for mentioning the point in the lead section are: (1) His involvement was significant; he was the managing general partner of a major league baseball team, a full-time job of significant responsibility (including his responsibility for the decision to trade Sammy Sosa, yuk yuk yuk); and (2) It was politically important, because it gave him a lot of visibility in Texas and was the sine qua non for his successful run for governor. If he were merely a son of George H. W. Bush who'd managed to run a couple oil companies into the ground, he wouldn't have had a chance. I'd say his sports involvement is more important than the information that, among his several rivals for the GOP nomination in 2000, McCain was the one who lasted the longest. If the lead section were unduly long, I'd remove McCain's name, but as it is I think it should stay, along with the glancing reference to professional sports. I'm not saying that the lead section should go into the details that the sport was baseball, that the franchise was the Rangers, that Bush helped organize the investor group that bought the team, and that Bush ran it as general manager; all that can go in the body of the article. JamesMLane 20:01, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Rfc

James, I made some impute on the Rfc. I may have, no I know I didn't format it well so I'll allow your meticulousness take over. I may add a thought or two and if you think I have already been long winded show me where and I'll try to reduce the redundancy.--MONGO 01:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

That works...whatever happens, happens.--MONGO 20:46, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Gorka!

Searching wikipedia for text "John Gorka" I received frighteningly few hits. One of them was a comment by you at User_talk:Wrp103, so I thought maybe you could help contribute to the John Gorka stub I felt compelled to create. MDC 07:53, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

W. Mark Felt

Salve!
I nominated W. Mark Felt as a WP:FAC. As you commented on the Deep Throat talk page, I'd appreciate your comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/W. Mark Felt. PedanticallySpeaking 15:46, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Rfc

James...have you posted the Rfc yet as folks are starting to chime in on the GWB discussion page...--MONGO 20:51, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Okay, thanks.--MONGO 00:47, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Godwin's law

That's interesting...first person reference..thanks! Hey, check out my photo on my user page...I've got my weight down to 260! Took pic in Grand Teton National Park last month. Didn't want it to show too much detail, but everyone gets the idea that I am human at least. I think.--MONGO 11:05, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

RfC

Hi James, I've replied back on my talk page Dan100 (Talk) 14:44, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

food for thought

saw your contribs to democratic underground... do you post on there? I got kicked off recently because I disagreed with this guy TruthIsAll, who really is Our Glorious Leader on DU.com, I hate people who resort to ad hominem attacks within 1 post of good-faith dissention, and I constantly asked him about several aspects about the exit polls that imply the opposite of fraud... within a week I was kicked off. If you ever post on there look up kobeisguilty posts, you'll see what i mean :). The amount of people who simply blindly believe Kerry should have won from the exit polls is simply amazing. I'm all for conspiracy theories and everything, as long as you tell me what you know, how you know it, and where you got your information from. --kizzle 19:27, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

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