User talk:Fennec

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NOTICE! I patrol Special:Recentchanges regularly for edits by anonymous IPs. This means that I look at several dozen edits a minute. I don't spend too much time on each one. It's therefore quite possible that I see one that looks suspicious but is in fact valid, particularly if the information added is radically different from the rest of the article, or otherwise unexpected and surprising.

If I've rolled back one of your edits, or an edit which you saw that you feel is valuable, I am sorry: please feel free to reinstate it, and I probably won't notice (but consider dropping a note here and/or on the talk page first, just in case). Thanks for your concern. :)

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Snoyes's friendly welcome message (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Fennec&oldid=2212331)
Someone whining about me whining about Wikinfo (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Fennec&oldid=2680257) (and me whining back :)
Chatter on the Bird/Brain affair (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Fennec&oldid=2704401)
Chatter with Pedro, Plato, Ludraman, and assorted miscellany (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Fennec&oldid=3135201)
Sysop, chatter with VegasGrl15, re: Plato, first IRC verification, bot, congrats re: sysop, HR after stub, note on a copyvio, random correction/vandalism confusion, March 3/1945, Time Zone, User:Jimbo-Wales, subst vs msg, White Seperatism, Helen Keller the Communist, a quickpoll request, more March 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Fennec&oldid=3343915)
Paul Vogel, Plato, lovebirds, randomness, more plato, someone pretending to be royalty, sigs, image attribution, vandals, sysops in trouble for NOT deleting stuff, protection accident (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Fennec&diff=4046790&oldid=4046708)
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hey, I cleaned this out. Post below. -Fennec (はさばくのきつね) 18:32, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Zigbee

Thanks for teaching me how to redirect :)

dtmos

WP:Sandbox

I need to get offline for work, I see you're cleaning the sandbox. There's a few idiots there, check my contribs to find them. Just a quick headsup. Pakaran (ark a pan) 16:25, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Do you have a question? Lir

Well gee Fennec, the suspense is totally intense. I can't wait to hear what you think of. Lir

What function of the Arbitration Committee you believe would be either necessary or conducive to achieving this goal.
- The function in which Jimbo resigns and gives the arbcom all of his power.
I wonder whether you would attempt to change one of the aforementioned standards or whether you would attempt to evade them using your self-announced "private sockpuppet army".
- If I am elected, I will have three arbcom sockpuppets (lir is, itself, a sockpuppet account) -- so, technically, I could then use my arbcom sockpuppets to dominate the committee -- however, I would rather change the aforementioned standards via a more 'legitimate' process. Lirath Q. Pynnor

Baaaad attitude

Well I cried...

Seriously though, sorry, we was feeling a little abrasive that morning. From now on I will be the epitome of politeness and constructive criticism. I can still be a bastard on my talk page, though, right? j/k - Randwicked 07:20, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

A Message to my Fellow Candidate

Friend,
The Arbitration Committee elections are almost here. I humbly ask for your vote in this election cycle. I have been a user of Wikipedia for over a year. I was here before the Community Portal, categories, or <tt>{{stub}}</tt>. I know how Wikipedia operates, and I am prepared to do my part to deal with problematic accounts. I wish to cut out the bureaucracy that makes our website stagnate. We need solutions to our problems now. If you want an arbitrator who believes in action, frankness, honesty, and fairness in every case, I am your arbitrator. Thank you for your time. You are under no obligation to answer this message.

--Paid for by Mero. for ArbCom

Kosovar political parties

Could you please revert your recent changes to the Political Parties of Kosovo page. The argument you are using does not stand. When a person establishes a political party, they name them, and that name cannot be changed by anyone else, other than the court. A serb political part from Kosovo may be "Serb List of Kosovo And Metohia", you cannot rename it to "Serb List of Kosovo", although "Kosovo And Metohia" is not the accepted English name of the territory. Hence, all political parties of Kosovo have spelled out their name, check their websites if you don't believe me, and thay all use Kosova exclusively, except Serb ones. As a result, I did not touch the names of the Serb parties.

Now, could you please be so kind and revert your recent changes, and spare me of doing the same work again.

Thank You,

Kosovar

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
Multi-Licensing Guide
Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)| talk)

RFC pages on VfD

Should RFC pages be placed on VfD to be deleted? I'm considering removing Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Slrubenstein, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jwrosenzweig and Wikipedia:Requests for comment/John Kenney from WP:VFD. Each of them was listed by CheeseDreams. Your comments on whether I should do this would be appreciated. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:38, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

"No Solicitors"

Don't call us, we'll call you. I like it, and think we should do something to curb the WikiSpam before it really gets out of hand. Pull, don't push. JRM 09:02, 2004 Dec 10 (UTC)

Maybe I should add a template to my user page saying Don't post templates on my page. :) (Actually its really annoying, cause they take up so much space. I usually change them to links). Now I apologize for the rather scripted nature of my message and I suppose I could have written you a more personal version with the exact same content, but there are just too many people to ask. Consider this to be your personal, non-spam request then. Alas, if any user would like to use your personal contributions elsewhere, they would legally need to ask your permission even if you decline, so what else was I to do? Besides a "solicitation" is any "earnest request", which could include most questions placed on your page, but I'm sure you knew that. Is WikiSpam such a problem? I've been here for a couple years and never had problems with that. But I'm sorry, no questions on your talk page ;-) – Ram-Man ^{(comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)) (talk)}[[]] 14:17, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

Is WikiSpam such a problem? I've been here for a couple years and never had problems with that. No, not yet, but I think some gentle discouragement to people won't matter. The comments about contributions are directed at Fennec, of course, I'm only talking about the yokels who stuff ArbCom flyers in the face of anyone who might remotely be interested and/or people who think their WikiProject would really get a boost if they started mentioning it on talk pages. As long as they do it in person, you won't hear me complain (hey, I do that myself sometimes—I'm a dirty rotten solicitor too :-), but boilerplate messages with no intent to personally address are just rude. Oh, say hi to Rambot for me. :-) JRM 14:32, 2004 Dec 10 (UTC)

Ok, I managed to not get any ArbCom fliers, but I've seen them. A quick way to remedy the problem is just to "Vote No!" as a policy :) Ok, I agree that some of those things can be annoying, and I suppose a no solicitation template is good. Maybe I'll have to use it soon! At least in the case of multi-licensing, I am perfectly fine with personally addressing any questions. Part of the problem is that a small minority of people get annoyed when I talk too much to them about multi-licensing, so I usually just drop the message and run and hope no one gets upset with me. Of course then some people might get upset about that! You just can't win. – Ram-Man ^{(comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)) (talk)}[[]] 14:44, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

Spambot

I'm pretty amazed that you used a bot to send unsolicited bulk messages to people's talk pages. It's very hard to see the difference between these mass edits and unsolicited bulk email. I realize that you have good intentions in doing so, but I think it's a really bad precedent to set. --ESP 01:43, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Aiee, you used a bot to do that? Was that a function of the bot previously discussed at Wikipedia talk:Bots? If not, that could easily be construed as grounds to block the bot... -Fennec (はさばくのきつね) 02:10, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- As a matter of fact, upon a little reflection, I will do so (construe as grounds) right now, and block the bot. -Fennec (はさばくのきつね) 02:14, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

As a matter of fact I also didn't get permission when I spent some time updating the licenses for a couple thousand county images. Frankly, the rambot has long ago since been approved. A bot wins approval and trust of the community based on its actions on a stricter level than regular users. It has done this. It has done city/county updates (many many times), licensing updates to images, as a user interactive spellbot, and just about any other task where using it would be simpler than doing the same thing by hand. As a matter of consistency, you should probably ban my main user account because 1/3 of the "spam" added by the rambot was not added by the rambot at all, but by myself. Considering that there is no practical difference between the two, I suppose since we don't follow the spirit of the law here at Wikipedia, that I should be permanently banned as well. Let's be as legalistic about this as possible. Afterall, I have a track record of not asking for permission. I suppose it doesn't matter that I received implicit consensus based on the results of the first 1/3rd of the "spam". I find it strange that it is suddenly much worse because a bot did it, as if that matters. I guess we don't judge edits based on their content anymore but by who adds them. I suppose with that precedent I should ban you because I don't like you (for sake of argument, not reality), not because there is anything particularly wrong with your content. I should also ban you for the unsolicited comment to my user page that you've given me, right? Did you get permission to do that? What precedent did I set anyway? That if a user desires to user someone's copyrighted work that they have to ask for permission? You give me a better solution for asking every single user for permission to license their work. I've been in discussion with those users who have had complaints and have been working on solutions that have been pleasing to everyone, and so far they have been civil about it. No blocks, just civil discussion. Unfortunately that has apparently ended. – Ram-Man ^{(comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)) (talk)}[[]] 02:54, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)

-- Please direct responses to me talk page: – Ram-Man ^{(comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)) (talk)}[[]] 03:10, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)

-- A Comment has been added on my talk page. – Ram-Man ^{(comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)) (talk)}[[]] 03:32, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)

Hey, I'd like you to consider unblocking the bot so I can at least perform the regular city updates as newly described. I've also clarified what I hope is an acceptable compromise. See Wikipedia:Bots. Even if my multi-licensing proposal is not approved, I still need to run the other tasks. At least consider my request or at minimum add your comments to the page. – Ram-Man ^{(comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)) (talk)}[[]] 21:10, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)

Best edit summary (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Re-Stalinization&curid=1287753&diff=0&oldid=8509379) ever. :-) Evercat 03:41, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

ArbCom elections

Oh! So close. Sorry you didn't make it into the ArbCom. You would have been a great arbitrator. But look at it this way: you now get most of the credit (by being just a few votes shy) but without any of the responsibility. – Quadell ^{(talk) (help)}[[]] 18:06, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)

VProtect on Tier One

There's a squawk about this on the talk page and indeed I can't immediately spot the reason for the protection. What was the problem? --Phil | Talk 08:13, Dec 24, 2004 (UTC)

#wikipedia Ops

I'm not sure if you're the right person to ask about this. You're the Freenode group contact, if I remember correctly, but I might be wrong. Has adding more ops for #wikipedia ever been considered? I'm not asking for opership for myself, just more (active) ops. There's a GNAA member trolling up #wikipedia as I type this, and no ops are active. I've noticed this happening in the past as well. 20 ops is a bit small, in my opinion, for a channel that regularly stays at around 200 users (although there are only 130 logged in right now, probably because of the holidays). Anyway, let me know what you think. --Slowking Man 08:26, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)

Blunsdon United VFD

Hello Fennec, on Dec 13th, the FVD discussion for Blunsdon United: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Blunsdon United was deleted (by you) from the Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Old. What was the result? Blunsdon United was not deleted but it still has a VFD tag, and no result is indicated on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Blunsdon United. Thanks. Paul August ☎ 20:40, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)

Sorry to be a bother, but I'm trying to understand the vfd process better. Can I assume that no concenus was reached to delete Blunsdon United? How can I tell who determined the result? Can I remove the vfd tag from that article (I'm not a sysop)? Is Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Blunsdon United supposed to be updated to reflect a result? Can anyone do that? should I? Paul August ☎ 20:17, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply and taking care of Blunsdon United. I would have been glad to have fixed things myself, but was unsure of whether I had the authority to do so. Paul August ☎ 20:36, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)

My Username

How is my username so offensive? --GNAA Staos 00:33, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Well, I guess it's one thing if someone with a handful of edits thinks I should leave, but if you do, maybe I should. I appreciate the encouragement. Everyking 18:34, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

IRC Cloak stopped working?

Hey Fennec, my cloak isn't working anymore.. it used to be CryptoDerk.wikipedia but it stopped working a few months ago for some reason -- there was a period where I wasn't on IRC for a month to a month and a half, so that's likely it. Anyway, if I could get this reinstated, that'd be good. My login with Nickserv never changed or deleted, so all the preliminary stuff should be done. Thanks in advance. CryptoDerk 19:10, Jan 13, 2005 (UTC)

I want to know why you extended my block to almost 48 hours, forcing me to ask someone else to unblock me. Everyking 09:57, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

My block had not expired about 8 hours after it was supposed to, and according to the block log you had me blocked until almost 48 hours after the initial block. Everyking 20:43, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Feeding_babies_in_emergencies

You seem to have just deleted a page that was being listed for copvyio, because it was supposedly the duplicate of a mistitled version of the same page (which is now also deleted). I am farily certain that our current copyvio policy requires the copyvio notice to be present as the page is listed for a week or two on WP:CP prior to its being deleted. I have restored it. -Fennec (はさばくのきつね) 03:01, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The original copyvio is still there in the page history of Feeding Babies In Emegencies (which won't be deleted until the 5th), so depending on how you see matters it's either a duplicate page creation or a deleteagain. Still, if you want to keep this one for the full 14 days too, be my guest. --fvw * 03:05, 2005 Jan 31 (UTC)

Ahh. You provided the wrong link to the duplicated-from page. Way to confuse everyone. :) -Fennec (はさばくのきつね) 03:10, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I did, overcapitalised and misspelled, it's a lot to get right :). I went back and corrected it though, is it still wrong anywhere? --fvw * 03:12, 2005 Jan 31 (UTC)

WikiEN-l

Hi Fennec. I'm not sure if you or David Gerard or Fuzheado often clear the WikiEN-l moderation queue (well I do it daily wherever possible), but I'm going to be away for a couple of weeks on holiday, so I was wondering if you could clear the queue whenever you can. I don't particularly want to return home only to find hundreds of emails to trawl through. Thanks. - Mark 08:05, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

wikipedia runs on UTC

It's after 12 o'clock.Geni 17:29, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

hello

nice photo, you wrote me once because Comparison of instant messengers i only wanted you to answer that i know principles wiki well but i was shy to edit because I normally edit only in german even in czech the second language i grown up with i rarly do edit, but maybe i will come to yours like many good german editors did because its better balnced here in english wiki. greetings. Lichtkind 01:30, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Page protection

Thanks for protecting the Template:Not notable redirect. I'm willing to accept a community consensus for deletion should that be the decision, but SPUI's constant vandalism was getting out of control. Firebug 17:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sock puppet

I wasn't worried that he had the capability to ban me at all--after all, he had only two edits, both of which were reverting my changes--I was actually wondering whether he might have any connection to User:Rangerdude, as that is the only other person who was involved in the editing of the Jim Robinson article. If so, that would make his protestations on that talk in decidedly bad faith.

Thanks for your help anyway, though --Jonathan Christensen 18:09, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

HELP

Please unblock me (User:Fish Supper).

"Jayjg" has blocked me claiming I have violated 3RR on Historicity of Jesus, which I haven't edited once!!!.

And if he is talking about Jesus, then he has blocked me without blocking User:Slrubenstein as well, who made 4 more reverts than me!!!, like he is corrupt and biased or something.

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/3RR#User:Fish_Supper. User is also suspected of being a sockpuppet of banned User:CheeseDreams. Jayjg ^(talk) 23:22, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Personal attacks

I'm not sure if you're aware or not, but personal attacks are not blockable. Policy proposals have been made, but have failed to gain consensus - Wikipedia:Blocking policy/Personal attacks. We're discussing John Gohde at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:John Gohde. -- Netoholic @ 01:05, 2005 Apr 20 (UTC)

Cricket

Hi. You commented on the move of the cricket portal to cricket. Having moved the whole affair back, I have made my own proposal. Could you come and comment, so that we can get consensus for the best version. Cheers, Smoddy (Rabbit and pork) 19:58, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sacrament

I would like to report several incidents of vandalism on the page for Sacrament. I fixed the page; they were minor things. It seems, however, that the user 203.36.44.14 has a history of vandalism. Perhaps a warning or a blocking might be in order. That's your call. Thanks. KHM03 02:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Ops?

Can I get ops in #wikipedia? I've asked a couple of times before but never got any response. It's getting fairly annoying watching people troll #wikipedia while AdamBishop and DavidGerard struggle to come up with proper bans and I've been an op in #math/#science on Undernet for 6 years... CryptoDerk 00:27, May 21, 2005 (UTC)

Snowspinner and abuse of IRC ops

On June 6, 2005, User:Snowspinner of Wikipedia decided to abuse his op privileges on the #wikipedia IRC channel so he could find an excuse to ban someone he has personal issues with (User:SPUI). He sided with another user in a small "argument" and chose to kick him from the channel and ban him because he doesn't like that person. When I attempted to intervene, the other person (who is also an op) unblocked Snowspinner, who I had kicked for abuse of his op privileges and Snowspinner promptly kickbanned me. Bumm13 15:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The situation has calmed and hopefully something like this won't happen again. Bumm13 17:10, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hi Fennec! I've been trying to reach you on IRC about this! Could you contact me? Kim Bruning 17:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hey, Fennec. I see my ChanServ access at #wikipedia has been removed. I'd kind of like to know why this has occurred and why no one has notified me of this situation. I think telling people about such changes beforehand rather than quietly removing their access is the proper way of doing things. Thanks. Bumm13 06:26, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Fennec. Just wondering if you're around. Talk later. Bumm13 16:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

IRC mask request

Hi Fennec, I've completed all the required steps to get a host mask, and now I need to contact you about it. What's next? Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 12:28, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

Figures, I just saw the message up above. I'm trying to get you on IRC now. Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 22:14, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

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