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Billion
In the ice age article, you recently converted 1000 million years to a billion years. You are probably unaware of this, but there is an ambiguity about the word billion. In American English it means 1000 million (ie. 10^9), but for some other English and non-English speakers it means million million (i.e. 10^12). For this reason it is perferable to use 1000 million years, 10^9 years or 1 Gyr rather than refering to 1 billion years. See the article on billion for further discussion. Dragons flight 01:15, Mar 13, 2005 (UTC)
Culture of Life
Very good work. I encourage you to add this to your list of significant rewrites. I plan to dig for some critical analysis. Thank you.--ghost 11:34, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
User:B1link82
B1link82 has been temporarily blocked for edit warring/3RR on Special Air Service by Slowking Man, I suggest you use this opportunity to clean it up and NPOV it as soon as possible. ALKIVAR™ 23:02, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
User is now up for RfC, feel free to go make your side heard. Wikipedia:Requests for comment/B1link82 ALKIVAR™ 19:51, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Zviad Gamsakhurdia
I've protected the page and asked User:Levzur to explain their actions by posting a message on their talk page. If they keep up after unprotection, feel free to bring it to my attention, but please try to engage in discussion with them first. On their talk page if they don't react at the article. Good luck! Mgm|(talk) 20:09, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
Image:Grand place brussels.jpg
Image:Grand place brussels.jpg is a really nice picture. Great work! I'm uploading it to Commons ---moyogo 05:03, 2005 Apr 13 (UTC)
Third opinon
Hey, ChrisO, I would to ask you if you are interested in giving a third opinion about a dispute I am having with User:CrazyC with regard to the article Ilinden Uprising. My source list is on the bottom of the article (most of the titles have links to online versions), the development of the discussion can be followed on the Talk page. So, say if you are interested. Regards VMORO 13:51, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)
User talk:Levzur
Just thought you might want to know that Levzur deleted (without response) the warning you put on his talk page about blanking his talk page. I have therefore listed him on Wikipedia:Vandalism in Progress#Levzur. --Marnen Laibow-Koser (talk) 23:24, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Purging one's own talk page isn't necessarily a bad thing - he was actually blanking article talk pages (see Talk:Bagrationi), which is a definite no-no. It's worth reminding him, though! -- ChrisO 23:42, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Noah's Ark
Amen on Noah's Ark. I've got your back on the inevitable POV reverts. I think "Biblical literalists" would be better than Fundamentalist. Fundamentalist has a somewhat more specific meaning; there are a lot of evangelical literalists who would not self-identify as "fundamentalist." Lectiodifficilior 22:45, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
- Fair point. I've changed it to reflect that. -- ChrisO 23:27, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
Schools
Please join the discussion at Wikipedia:Schools - this is an effort to reach consensus (or at least, compromise) through discussion, rather than voting. And it seems to be succeeding. Radiant_* 14:20, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
UN works as PD?
You state that Image:Java map.png is PD, but what do you base this assertion on? The UN terms of use (http://www.un.org/terms.htm) states, in part, The United Nations grants permission to Users to visit the Site and to download and copy the information, documents and materials (collectively, Materials) from the Site for the Users personal, non-commercial use, without any right to resell or redistribute them or to compile or create derivative works therefrom..., which seems far from PD to me. Jpatokal 16:09, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
- I asked Vladimir Bessarabov, the compiler of the UN maps, who granted permission and said the following:
- The UN maps is an open source material. You can use them to make your own maps. You do not need our permission for that. Please be advised that the UN name and reference number should not appear on any modified map. The UN map is a UN document and cannot be modified. You can said something like "Based on UN map no...".
- -- ChrisO 16:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
- Great! You might want to post this up somewhere and link the image(s) in question to avoid confusion. Jpatokal 01:27, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
- Only if they come from the UN Cartographic Section, for which Mr Bessarabov works. The other maps seem to come from MONUC itself, so I'd ask them for specific permission. -- ChrisO 13:47, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
Kvarner
Just drawing your attention to Talk:Kvarner Gulf :) --Joy [shallot]
Arch0wl.com
You may want to make sure to check the history before deleting articles, as this was a vandalised version. Not that it really matters, as it's going to fail VFD anyway. --SPUI (talk) 23:01, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
- It's hard sometimes to tell the difference between the vandalised and unvandalised versions... :-/ -- ChrisO 23:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
Images on the MainPage
Hello, ChrisO . Nice addition to ITN. ... Just wanna leave a friendly reminder that, in order to avoid vandalism, all items on the MainPage need to be protected. For images, a {{mprotected}} tag is needed, too. This has been the policy since, I think, February. Your nice picture of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline is now protected and tagged. I've also unprotected and untagged the displaced flag of Mongolia. Cheers. -- PFHLai 18:17, 2005 May 25 (UTC)
- I know, but I didn't get the chance to do it because of a network failure. Thanks for beating me to it. :-) -- ChrisO 19:04, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
- You are welcome. :-) Glad that I can help. Take Care. -- PFHLai 19:10, 2005 May 25 (UTC)
RfA on Argyrosargyrou
Thanks for the heads up. However, I doubt I could give any more evidence than there is already. The guy has been digging his own grave indeed. Sarg 22:30, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
All I know is the VfD debate, and I'm happy to support your action. Thanks for the message. --Scimitar 22:31, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Beyond [[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ACopyright_problems&diff=14415263&oldid=14415045) ] (personal attacks, calling people Nazi Holocaust Deniers, etc), I have basically no other evidence beyond the recreation of the Hellenic Genocide page, the the Hellenic (Greek) Genocide page mirror (which I listed for speedy, and was speedied). I don't think this is enough to add me as a co-respondent in the RfAr, though. --Kiand 22:30, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Template:Idw Zscout370 (Sound Off) 16:57, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Latest TRNC posts
I had posted the following on Wikipedia: Murat Aga and Sandalla casualty list, Atlilar casulaty list, and 1963-1967 Turkish Cypriot Casualty List. Now these pages are up for votes on deletion, on the grounds that the posts are not references, but 'memorials'. Looks like somebody doesn't like seeing the actual names of those who were killed. What do you think about this? Expatkiwi 23:58, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- This has come up before with reference to Iraq, I believe (i.e. should Wikipedia list individual casualties of the conflict?). I think it would fall under the policy set out on Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, which lists memorials as a non-encyclopedic item. -- ChrisO 07:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The Greek term for the city
Whats the point of in giving the Serbian, Bulgarian and the modern Greek name for the city Durrės, those are just some foringe names for Durrės and not known by the outside world. The is not relavant or good headwords to use as paragraph. The italian name Durrazzo and Latin Dyrrhachium is another thing. Durazzo is another name for Durrės and Dyrrachium is the ancient name. This is the only two name for the city that should remain on the article,.. It's not like there is a large Serbian, Bulgarina or Greek minority in the city, so I see no point in mentioning it here. The city was a Greek colony in the begining of 6th century B.C. known as Epidamnos/Epidamos and not Dyrrhachion., The city was invaded by Serbs, but it's not like you can't use the slavic forms. --Albanau 07:47, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Please see Talk:Durrės for my reply. -- ChrisO 09:38, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Macedonians (yes, I know you're tired of this:))
- I know that you are getting tired of the "Macedonian Slavs" article, but would you mind seeing the latest discussion developments? I have made some naming proposals for this article, based on your previous list of arguments (I've also added more of them). The point is that the term "Macedonian Slavs" is considered derogatory, even racist by most inhabitants of RoM (I'm lacking a good example but it's similar to calling an American a Yankee), while most of the historical and practical arguments for calling them with the addition of the suffix "Slavs", are rather weak, and are also a violation of some human rights issues. I realize that several other nation live in the region of Macedonia, but none of them uses "Macedonian" in terms of ethnicity. I've also added a few other naming proposals, if confusion with the name "Macedonian" is about to be avoided - Macedonians (ethnic group), Macedonians (ethnicity), Macedonians (nationality), Ethnic Macedonians.
- Because I'm a Macedonian (I'm also an admin of the Macedonian Wikipedia), myself, so everything I do linked to this article might be considered a POV, even propagandist, I would appreciate if you take part in the discussion, or at least tell me what to do you think about the naming proposals (agree/disagree, further actions, etc.). Thank you in advance. --FlavrSavr 13:40, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
RE your "Funny you should say that, there is (or was) such as thing as the "Religious Macedonians." :-)" I appreciate your light-hearted comments and serious efforts on this issue and article! Macedonian (nationality) would be OK too as the qualifier is not an adjective. All the best --Modi 09:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
reducing vfd load
Hi ChrisO,
Based on your post at talk:vfd I would like you to take a look at a proposal I've written at User:MarSch/deleteproposal which is aimed at these unanimous delete issues. --MarSch 17:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Fair Game (Scientology)
I've started this article and it could probably do with contributions from others. I basically started from William C. Barwell's timeline, which he's been updating of late.
One important question I'm not actually sure on: critics call CoS attacks on critics "Fair Game" (since it's the same sort of actions), but do the CoS call it "Fair Game" or something else? They attacked Amprinistics in this way, as noted in the article, and they attacked Gerry Armstrong this way, and it was called Fair Game in court I believe. But I want it to make sense from the Scientologist POV, not just the critical one - David Gerard 22:50, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Argyrosargyrou
This user is editting the Cyprus dispute page. I don't know anything about the subject, so I dropped a note off at the talk page of the sysop who de-protected it, as well as at Snchduer's page. This user also created the The Hellenic Holocaust page today, which, to put it mildly, seems slightly POV. Again, I don't know anything about the subject, so you might want to take a look at these pages. I was going to put The Hellenic Holocaust on VfD, but thought I would talk to you first. --Scimitar 19:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. It was an illegal recreation of a four-times deleted article, Hellenic Genocide, so I've speedily deleted it. -- ChrisO 20:23, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
User also created page The pogroms in Istanbul and seems to be putting in as much seemingly-POV material as possible as fast as possible. --Scimitar 19:48, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I'd suggest nominating it for VfD to get the view of the Wikipedia community. -- ChrisO 20:23, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I will do so. --Scimitar 21:04, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- User in question just vandalized your user page. I just reverted it. Can you block him? --Scimitar 21:25, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Don't worry, as an administrator I'm used to it by now. ;-) -- ChrisO 21:26, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- And user just created The Hellenic (Greek) Genocide page, which is another recreation of the last topic. He certainly is persistent. --Scimitar 21:29, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
VFD OLD
Hey Chris, I notice you've been doing some tagging on VFD old to mark discussions closed, etc. However, I notice that in more than a few cases you're actually doing it a little wrong. For example, in these edits [3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AVotes_for_deletion%2FOh_snap&diff=0&oldid=15139399) [4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AVotes_for_deletion%2FJason_M._Isaacs&diff=15140308&oldid=15139226) and others, you are putting the VT template in under the heading rather than above it, and you are forgetting to insert the VB template at the end. This causes the formatting to get messed up on the VFD/Old pages. If you need to, please refamiliarize yourself with Wikipedia:Deletion process. Cheers, DropDeadGorgias (talk) 22:13, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks DDG - what a nightmare! I had systematically forgotten to put the VB template in. It's all fixed now, thankfully... -- ChrisO 22:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
"Argyrosargyroucruft"
LOL. I don't even try to pronounce his name, and there's no way I can remember how to spell it, I always copy and paste. :) RickK 22:52, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
Possible sockpuppet
User: SaintJerome just restored Argy's revisions to Cyprus dispute. Given that the user has only one edit, I think it's more than possible that he's a sockpuppet of Argy. Is it possible to protect the Cyprus dispute page? --Scimitar 23:01, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Just dropped him a polite note asking that he consult with other editors. It might be a waste of time, but it doesn't hurt to give him benefit of the doubt. --Scimitar 23:08, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Pic of the day
Hi Chris,
Just to let you know that your picture Image:Tawaret.jpg is due to make an reappearance on June 16th. I've used the same caption as before, but you can make any changes at Wikipedia:Picture of the day/June 16, 2005. -- Solipsist 07:23, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The Unpronouncable Greek
User:JohnChaucer is a definate sock (look at phrasing), User:BigBrother probable (same 'my family was there' as he's used before), User:Jagrafes seems to be a sock also. You're an admin right, able to check the IP's on these? Theres also an anon-ip probable sock there that seems to be a college in Colombia (the country not the district of) --Kiand 22:58, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Oh, and now User:NeilKinnock, which comes under the banned usernames I think (Neil Kinnock...) --Kiand 23:02, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- User:Enforcer2. Its getting expletiveing ridiculous tonight. --Kiand 23:14, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- He seems to be using Doctor Who character names now - Big Brother came up in Saturday's episode, User:CaptainJack is another DW character, as is User:TheSlitheen and User:Jagrafes. All pretty obvious stuff. -- ChrisO 12:49, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- User:Enforcer2. Its getting expletiveing ridiculous tonight. --Kiand 23:14, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Sockpuppet
So why do I have to be YOUR sockpuppet? Why can't YOU be mine? Then you'd have to do things my way. :) RickK 23:55, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)
- You have to be a figment of MY imagination. Otherwise the metaphysical implications are just too severe. -- ChrisO 23:58, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Bah, Argy said the "puppets" where ChrisO's and MINE. MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE!!!!! I'm taking RickK wheter you like it or not!! --Kiand 23:59, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- As RickK is just a figment of our imaginations, we can easily have two RickK's. When you're dealing with imaginary things you can have as many of them as you like. :-) -- ChrisO 00:07, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Bah, Argy said the "puppets" where ChrisO's and MINE. MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE!!!!! I'm taking RickK wheter you like it or not!! --Kiand 23:59, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
"The vote by Carnildo should not be counted as his user name includes the letter "C", which is not found in the Greek alphabet, clearly showing anti-Greek bias". I just couldn't avoid laughing at that one for quite some time, hehehe. Sarg 11:47, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Could you take your arm out of my ass? Being your sockpuppet certainly hurts... ;) - Snchduer 01:07, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Argy evidence
Hi, can anyone add evidence to the Rfa or just you? If not me then i think you should add that user:Yorik has admitted being directed here from a Greek mailing list. Also either a possible sockpuppet (User:TheAmbassador) of Argy or someone directed here externally is going round vandalising a host of pages to do with Turkey and Cyprus by filling it with text created by Argy. --E.A 11:21, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Ultranationalism on Wikipedia
Hey ChrisO,
In concern to the article Skanderbeg, a lot of of Serbian ultranationalists have taken the honour of claiming him. I have nothing against Serbs in general, but think that this is typical balkanian dogmatic paranoia and a classic mythical style of thinking. Skanderbeg was obviously a Albaninan nationalist and not a Serb. Miskin (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Skanderbeg&action=history) version of the article is POV, is offensive against the Albanian people and not encyclopedic. I know you are a Slav by descendant but I hope you understand how wrong this is, and any of this propaganda comes up on wikipedia we must clean it up and protect the article. Can you review the article to the last change by me and protect it?
While you at it, look at Theathenae contributions (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Theathenae) he have edit many Macedonian related articles and the article Arvanites and Arvanitic language, his versions are not encyclopedic and classes as vandalism. Take a look on this talkpage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Albanau#Arvanitis).
Awaits to hear from you,
Best regards,
Albanau.
Macedonians vote
Hi Chris, for once I agree with you - almost. I'm voting for none of the above, as I disagree with both proposed solutions. Who started the poll? They didn't provide for anyone to vote for neither! What sort of democracy is that?! --Rebroad 10:28, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'm glad to see that you have seen the poll's absurdity. I have already reacted three times: from the very beginning of the poll (that is now in the archive), at Zocky's talk page, and at the poll page. As you can see, the "Macedonian Slavs" vote is almost entirely composed of Greeks. The "Macedonians" vote is more international, but that does not make it less partisan. --FlavrSavr 15:57, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Thuresson 15:41, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
User: OOOklahoma
Hi again! Just thought I'd let you know I reverted some edits by User: OOOklahoma to the Cyprus dispute page. I'm not sure that this user is a sock of Argyrosargyrou, since he didn't do the standard cut and paste that Argy likes, so I'm tring to get him to list his sources on the talk page, and discuss the edits before implementation. Given recent history, I'm slightly pessimistic. Best wishes. --Scimitar 23:19, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Terri Schiavo
I appreciate your input on the Terri Schiavo page. However, your edit of 12:31, 23 Jun 2005 isn't one of your better efforts.
- "It should be noted that the loss in weight in Schiavo's case was produced by a loss of mass, not size; in other words, the brain was smaller because much of it had been physically destroyed, not because the same amount of mass had shrunk into a smaller volume."
"loss of weight produced by loss of mass" approaches a tautology. To the lay reader it is a tautology as they interpret mass and weight as the same. Technically, they're not, however, on earth with our gravitational pull, they are essentially synonymous. Also, one of our more vocal wiki-zens is sure to take great issue with your interpretation of atrophy (although you didn't use the word)—he's done it with me already. I think the sentence, while well intentioned, is inelegantly phrased and should be stricken. I plan to edit it myself later on today, but I wanted to give you a fair heads-up as to why. Duckecho 13:10, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- OK, I've reworded it. See what you think now! -- ChrisO 13:31, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)