User talk:ChrisO/Archive 2

You've been nominated for moderatorship! Congratulations! See Wikipedia:Requests for adminship for details. --Modemac 20:48, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC) (A fellow S.P.)

Now that's something I wasn't expecting! How did you drift into Wikipedia anyway? There seem to be quite a few old SPs hanging around this place... :-) -- ChrisO 23:49, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I stumbled across this place a year and a half ago, and was immediately hooked. I can't even remember how I first found it; I think I was searching for references to Scientology, to see if they had infiltrated any place we didn't know about. But it was all the other entries here that kept me coming back; I think the articles I'm proudest of here are the History of Animation series. As for the adminship, it gives you the ability to completely delete articles, protect them from vandals, block and delete users, and resurrect deleted articles. Otherwise it's pretty much the same. --Modemac 00:38, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Just so you know, in response to your question on RfA, your "gold star" (admin abilities) won't come until at least the 24th. :-) We always wait a week to be sure any grievances can come to light, although obviously that looks most unlikely in this case. Sorry I didn't vote for you, but I don't recall having ever crossed your path (though my memory is growing spotty -- forgive me if I forget something!). Obviously you're much respected, though, so I certainly hope to work with you in the future! Jwrosenzweig 00:01, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Elephant pic

Very cool indeed! Sorry for not responding to your previous post on my talk page. Somehow I managed to miss it entirely - I think I need to clean up that page again. If you are so inclined, set up a wikimoney account, and I'll give you two units. - snoyes 21:38, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Sysop

Congratulations! You are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. Good luck. Angela . 02:34, Feb 24, 2004 (UTC)

Nice! Next on my list, getting a barnstar. ;-) -- ChrisO 13:50, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Southwark

Hi. The list of people connected with Southwark is excellent work. I've got one comment - which is on the Pilgrim Fathers. I presume that you added them because of the belief that they sailed from Rotherhithe. However at work I've heard it said that this is an invention of Southwark Heritage Association. It needs to be said that Southwark Heritage Association are not flavour of the month at the Council for many reasons, some of which are party political. The truth is that I don't know, but I know it is contested.

Apart from that I will have a think. One place to look is the list of contenders for blue plaques (the Southwark voted by the people ones, not the English Heritage ones). We also need to be aware that areas often claim links with famous people that may be not that strong - a sort of local pride, if you will. The Southwark articles are looking quite good now, and this makes me think that I ought to start on Lambeth which looks pretty bad by comparison. Secretlondon 13:46, Feb 24, 2004 (UTC)

This is Southwark's list : [1] (http://www.southwark.gov.uk/CultureHeritage/BluePlaquesSection/BluePlaques2003/BPShortlist.html), but please bear in mind my comment on tenuous links ;). Secretlondon 14:06, Feb 24, 2004 (UTC)

Transliteration issues

Hi Chris,

I saw you were a contributor to the Naming conventions page, and then in the edit history for Alexander Lukashenko, and so I want invite you to weigh in at the new discussion of related matters that have come up in the last few days at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(places)#Transliteration_of_Russian_place_names. And (coincidentally? ironically?) I just asked Adam Carr to do the same (see his talk page for why). See the intro paragraph for Boris Yeltsin to see an example of what's been going on with articles on Russians and places in Russia...

Also, if you haven't already do so, please take a look through Cantus's contributions (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&hideminor=0&target=Cantus&limit=250&offset=0).

Hi can you have a look at September 11, 2001 attacks timeline for the day of the attacks? PMA 19:33, Feb 28, 2004 (UTC)

Latin2Unicode

I've answered your request at the village pump. (but I am not absolutely sure it is what you want). Pfortuny 08:38, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi. When you've got a mo could you look at Talk:Nino Burjanadze - I have no way of verifying. Secretlondon 22:46, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

"Kosova"

It is something that can just as easily be stated in a few words on an article on Kosovo or its politics. The existence of this article seems to me to be a subtle attempt to increase the recognition of this alternate spelling as the norm here. Everyking 20:44, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Madrid 11

I want to thank you for your efforts at the Madrid 11 article. It means quite a lot for us here in Spain. Pfortuny 17:59, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Britain

When the Romans took control of the largest island they called their possessions Britannia. The earlier celtic inhabitants became known as Britons and the island as Britain. Some centuries after the Romans had left, some of these Britons migrated to the near continent. About 1000 years later (i.e. by the late Middle Ages) the region they had moved to was known as Brittany, and to distinguish the island the term Great Britain was used (compare the French names Bretagne and Grande Bretagne). After the fall of the Roman Empire, the name largely fell into abeyance and tended to be used in an historical sense. Geoffrey of Monmouth used Britannia major and Britannia minor to refer to the island of Britain and Brittany respectively.

Which name fell into abeyance - Great Britain? Geoffrey of monmouth comes before Roman departure + some centuries + 1000 years, so his use of Britannia major (= Great Britain) is the first use of it in the article, not a revival or historical use of a name "in abeyance". Andy G 20:51, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Andy, I was trying to say (but probably not very well) that the name "Britannia" tended to be used during the medieval period in a purely historical sense, i.e. meaning Roman Britain. AFAIK, it was only during the late middle ages / early modern period that Britain was used as a contemporary rather than historical concept. -- ChrisO 23:39, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Kosovo again

I see that you have decided to celebrate today's events on Kosovo. It's not enough that you are constantly vandalizing the articles, now you're misleading other users directly into believing you, and on top of everything on MY talk page! Nikola 21:43, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)

1) I do know something about my native language, so grant me this much at least; 2) don't be so possessive about the articles: "If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then do not submit it"; 3) since you don't seem to want to discuss things on article talk pages despite repeated requests for comment, I will bring things to your attention on your own talk page; and 4) regarding your apparent paranoia, have you tried using a tinfoil hat? -- ChrisO 23:37, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)

1) You do, but you are intentionally misinterpretting things. 2) Most of them were not written by me. 3) I want,I have no time ATM. 4) Ne budali. Nikola 01:21, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Using sysop powers over an article you are involved in? Nikola 01:31, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Nope. I'll be asking other sysops to protect the page from your abusive editing. -- ChrisO 01:34, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Unrest in Kosovo

Chris - sorry - edited the Kosovo page before I saw your note on the talk page - you know about the {{msg:inuse}}? Thanks, Mark Richards 22:59, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I didn't know about that msg - thanks! -- ChrisO 23:14, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Great job! Mark Richards 23:26, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)

We got there in the end. Nice work. :-) -- ChrisO 23:44, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Chris - what do you mean about Unicode? Thanks, Mark Richards 21:31, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)

See the explanation on the talk page. :-) -- ChrisO 21:37, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)

cheers! Mark Richards 21:45, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Microsoft and AOL

Has that story been confirmed? From what I understand it is just an article by the NY Post. Dori | Talk 22:27, Mar 19, 2004 (UTC)

It's been all over the news; it was on CNN a short time ago too. But I take your point. I've added "is reported to be" to the Itn box to add a note of caution. -- ChrisO

When you have a moment, could you read Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page? --mav 23:32, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, mav. -- ChrisO 01:18, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Double redirs

Make sure to check for double redirects (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Advance_fee_fraud) when you rename an article! Thanks, Minesweeper 02:52, Mar 20, 2004 (UTC)

I'm aware of it, don't worry! It was too late and I was too tired to deal with it immediately last night, so it's on my "to do" list for today. -- ChrisO 11:16, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Serbia maps

Quite possibly. ;) Morwen 09:04, Mar 21, 2004 (UTC)

Very well done, as always! Now I just have to get Igor and Nikola to agree on which table to use and which content to put in it... If you have any thoughts, please pop into Talk:Kosovo and Metohia. You've done way more work on subnational entity summary tables than any of us have, so your views would be very useful. -- ChrisO 12:18, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Subdivisions of Pakistan

Hi! I listed Template:Subdivisions of Pakistan at Wikipedia:MediaWiki custom elements. I also posted a version that conforms to similar footers used for subdivisions in other countries. Cheers! -- Mic 18:49, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks very much - my first attempt at a custom message, so thanks for getting it into the right format! :-) -- ChrisO

Philosophical pessimism

Just wanted to make sure that you knew that we already had an article at philosophical pessimism. Before you put a great deal of effort into buffing pessimism with data about philosophy, you might want to make that minimal stub one a redirect to the existing page and buff it instead. Smerdis of Tlön 19:23, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Talk:Dispute over the name Sea of Japan

Thanks for your input on the above page. I think we're all aware that Sea of Japan is the most common English name overall, so the article is located there. Can you tell us bit more on the results of the Republic of Macedonia or Kosovo? How are the terms used now? Is any of the suggestions on the talk:Dispute over... page close to that? Finally, was the issue in RoM/Kosovo the same that the most common usage in English depends on the context (in our case, in Korea it's hard to find Sea of Japan whereas in Japan you won't find East Sea at all - this is in publications in English)?

Thanks for your help! Kokiri 11:55, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Levzur

Yes, I think a couple of days' time out would be a good thing. RickK | Talk 15:42, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Done. I've thrown in the proxies as well. -- ChrisO 15:52, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Which was completely out of process - it's not vandalism per se - its an edit war - which you have participated in. I know you have been patient etc but it should have gone through quick polls. Secretlondon 23:40, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Sigh. This is one of those things that makes me wish the Wikipedia documentation was better. It's taken me quarter of an hour's browsing to find Wikipedia:Quickpolls, which isn't exactly the most well linked page I've come across... -- ChrisO 23:53, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't blame you for not knowing about it. I've found watching Wikipedia:Goings-on keeps one up to speed on such things without having to hang around the mailing list (etc.). -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 00:00, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks Finlay, I'll snarf that for my bookmarks. -- ChrisO 00:03, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)

As you were involved in an editing dispute at the time you banned User:Levzur you should not have done so. If you have a dispute with another user banning them is not the solution. Please remove the ban you imposed and follow the normal procedure for dispute resolution. If you feel there is an emergency please use the Quickpoll process mentioned above. Fred Bauder 00:29, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)

Done. For the record, I've not touched that page for some time - the current edit war is between Levzur and up to five other editors. My intention was to create a cooling-down period. If the Quickpoll process is the more appropriate way to go about doing this, then of course I'll use that. But might I suggest that Wikipedia:Quickpolls should be mentioned on Special:Blockip? -- ChrisO 00:40, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)

OK, I've started a quickpoll at Wikipedia:Quickpolls#Levzur. Thanks, everyone, for bearing with me on this one. :-/ -- ChrisO 01:16, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)

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