Template talk:In the news

N3 road/M3 motorway

Note that according to the linked article N3 road, it is the M3 motorway that's planned to run by the Hill of Tara. So the proper link is [[N3 road|M3 motorway]]--the "M3" is not a mistake. Demi ^T/_C 05:34, 2005 May 13 (UTC)

Encyclopedic?

I am sorry that I have to do this, but I can't be the only that sees this discrepancy... that is, why has N3 road been on the FRONT PAGE for so long [3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&direction=next&oldid=13565798). Is this really THE story we pride ourselves as encyclopedic? Is this an even we need to run around and update our history books... I know we're different, but is Britannica sweating that their not covering the M3? Why aren't we talking about unrest in Uzbekistan, that's a history changer, or the Beatification of Pope John Paul II, or even Malcolm Glazer and the Manchester United event -- it'll be huge if this team becomes 'American owned'. Either way, we need to update our stories each day (or 30hrs), All Current Event articles should have a fair share on the homepage time split. Hope you understand, lets work together ~ RoboAction 00:47, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

The proper place to make these recomendations is Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates. BrokenSegue 02:09, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

BRAC

The Ellsworth and Hanscom Air Bases are no more inherently valuable than any of the other installations in the BRAC round (they're all on the chopping block, after all). The BRAC round also includes scores of smaller emplacements. --Alexwcovington (talk) 00:10, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Yes, but most people will focus on the major installations. More important is that the entry is in error. Hanscom is not closing. Major installations people are focusing on: Ellsworth AFB, Fort Monmouth, and Portsmouth Naval Shipyard. --Penta 00:23, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Guantánamo Bay Qur'an desecration allegations

• Guantánamo Bay Qur'an desecration allegations

We shall run this article. -- Toytoy 02:58, May 18, 2005 (UTC)

House of Commons image

Instead of having the Canadian flag here, which seems a bit generic and non-descriptive, how about using Image:Parliament2.jpg? – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs, blog (http://mxn.f2o.org/index.html)) 02:26, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

I hope you don't feel ignored, Minh Nguyễn. Just wanna mentioned that your suggested photo was the original image used. It was taken out after being on the MainPage all night. The flag was not expected to stay there for so long ..... -- PFHLai 20:29, 2005 May 23 (UTC)

Eurovision song contest?

I do not consider the Eurovision song contest news of international importance. Same for Super Bowl, Academy Awards, American Idol, etc. Being a North American, what is the Eurovision song contest? This does not need to be on the front page. I think this should be replaced with more important news. Andrew pmk 01:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

It's a really slow news day. --Golbez 02:05, May 22, 2005 (UTC)

We could put up a picture of Saddam in his undies instead. But in all seriousness, how is this more important than American Idol? --tomf688^(talk) 02:29, May 22, 2005 (UTC)

As I understand it, much of its newsworthiness has to do with its not being American. I don't doubt that a news item on the winner of American Idol would cause an eruption of Righteous Rage and be swiftly removed. User:Rdsmith4/Sig 03:09, May 22, 2005 (UTC)

It's definetly notable. It's important to all of Europe. Some countries go to the point of idiocy over it. The Super Bowl is American only, American Idol is national, and the Academy Awards doesn't have a certain major award. Hedley 13:44, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

"News of international importance" is very subjective. If we just limit ourselves to international politics, government, law and natural disasters it is very bland news indeed. Considering most news items don't stay on the Main Page for long, I'm weakly in favour of allowing news items like Eurovision on the Main Page, so long as it can be bumped off if any more significant news comes along. - Mark 14:00, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

To be fair I find it more interesting than the rain in Honduras. violet/riga (t) 14:09, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Yes, but it's not more important than the rain. If we leave it up, the next time we want post some trivial American event let the Europeans remember this. BrokenSegue 14:17, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

It's not a trivial event considering that there are ~50 countries involved and it's a first-time winner for Greece. I'm not saying that I totally agree on it being there but it'll do for now. violet/riga (t) 14:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Its a song contest. --tomf688^(talk) 14:59, May 22, 2005 (UTC)

This song contest is an international cultural event with a high profile and a long history. -- PFHLai 06:21, 2005 May 23 (UTC)

There is a weather event on there at the moment. And the Olympics are a sports event, but I'd expect to see the overall winner appear on there. I have no problem with it being taken down if there are decent stories to replace it (and would like to see that happen), but for now there isn't anything worthy of going up there. violet/riga (t) 15:06, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

It's not a trivial event when 39 countries actively participate in something, and many more watch. That's why it counts as "news of international importance", to some degree on a quiet news day, rather than one-country only sports events like the Super Bowl. Otherwise we could have put the FA Cup final up today... -- Arwel 15:56, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

The FA Cup, widely reported in newspapers around the world, is now posted on ITN. -- PFHLai 05:51, 2005 May 23 (UTC)

Nobody cares about Eurovision outside Europe. We should instead have items on Afghanistan, North Korea and Iraq. It's not a slow news day. --Just my 2 cents -- Hemanshu 16:06, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Care to elaborate? What happened in Afghanistan, Korea and Iraq in the last 2 days that's worthy of ITN, apart from perhaps the fertilizer shipment from South to North Korea? Don't forget that ITN requires an article update to companion the entry. --Golbez 22:34, May 22, 2005 (UTC)

Instead of complaining, the best way to deal with this is to update an article with news materials, update Current events and post it on ITN (or the Candidate page for non-Admins) to displace an old item, and eventually the item you don't think deserve to be there. A line on the young Chilean soldiers frozen to death would be appropriate, but I don't know what page should get the update. The last United Nations peacekeepers leaving East Timor would be good, too, but United Nations Mission of Support to East Timor is a red link. Etoumbi is too stubby to feature for the Ebola outbreak there. Any new developments regarding land reform in Brazil after the 17-day march of the Landless Workers' Movement ? Too old ? ... I give up. ... Perhaps the local elections in North Rhine-Westphalia, which prompted the German national elections to take place a year early, should be considered. Could someone familiar with politics in Germany take a look at this, please ? -- PFHLai 06:21, 2005 May 23 (UTC)

We now have 2 new items on ITN. Yeah ! -- PFHLai 08:08, 2005 May 23 (UTC)

The eurovision song contest was a nice piece of interesting news. The viewing figures for the final were nearly 80 million and this excludes Australians (which, btw Golbez, is outside of Europe) who watched it 12 hours later. If you have never heard of the contest Andrew pmk, then you should have clicked on the link and read about it. What's the point in having an encyclopaedia if you're uninteresting in things you don't already know about? Dmn / Դմն 09:22, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

European hegemony

THREE items on ITN are about Europe. Clearly, there is an anti-American bias at work. *snigger* --Golbez 14:02, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

Has the Newsweek scandal been on ITN yet? That's certainly international, and more interesting than a song contest. ;) --tomf688^(talk) 14:24, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

Oh, great, three European items and then an anti-American item. Truly, the anti-US bias on ITN is mindboggling! --Golbez 15:46, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

European hegemony ? Mongolia is rather far away from Europe, eh ! ^_^ .... Last week's Newsweek scandal was suggested at the Candidates' page. At the time, I declined to post it on the MainPage while the Guantánamo Bay Qur'an desecration allegations page carries a {{cleanup}} tag. If I had known that the tag was removed soon after, I would have waited and posted it on ITN. Now, it's old news..... The last few departed items were about Canada, Central America and Angola. It must be very peaceful / boring in the US of A these days ..... -- PFHLai 20:17, 2005 May 23 (UTC)

"Soccer"

Do we have to call it soccer? I say this because very few people in Liverpool would call it "soccer". It is football. Smoddy (Rabbit and pork) 08:38, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

I think since we're talking about UK/Euro football, it's reasonable to change it. Done. Mark¹ 09:13, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

I like your edit summary, Mark. ;-) -- 64.229.206.213 14:42, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Someone please add this

• A coalition of citizen groups will ask Congress to file a formal "Resolution of Inquiry", the first necessary legal step to determine whether U.S. President Bush has committed impeachable offenses. The request, written by Boston constitutional attorney John C. Bonifaz, cites the Downing Street memo and issues surrounding the planning and execution of the Iraq war.

Kevin Baas^{talk: new (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kevin_baas&action=edit&section=new)} 22:25, 2005 May 26 (UTC)

People ask Congress to do stuff all the time. Ask again if Congress actually does something about the request. -- Cyrius|✎ 02:39, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

(via edit conflict) Is this newsworthy? Which prominent American or world publications have covered it? Also, which Wikipedia article has been updated with the news? (Further guidelines are at Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page; also, submissions are normally made at Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates.) User:Rdsmith4/Sig 02:41, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Wikipedia articles that have been updated:

1. Tony Blair
2. War on terrorism
3. Iraq disarmament crisis
4. American government position on invasion of Iraq
5. Governments' pre-war positions on invasion of Iraq
6. Coalition of the willing
7. 2003 invasion of Iraq
8. John Conyers
9. Paul Craig Roberts
10. George W. Bush
11. Current events (ofcourse)

The news is very recent and so far has only been picked up by 4 news sources. Kevin Baas^{talk: new (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kevin_baas&action=edit&section=new)} 03:01, 2005 May 27 (UTC)

How about mentioning this news item on the page of the author of the written request ? John C. Bonifaz is no longer a red link. -- 199.71.174.100 20:42, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Attn: Sysops ---- Please update Template:In the news.

This edit summary (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news_section_on_the_Main_Page/Candidates&diff=14369384&oldid=14358547) at Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates is disconcerting .... -- 199.71.174.100 05:34, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

62%

Update Dutch referendum to 62%. —Cantus…☎ 03:09, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Proxmire

IMHO William Proxmire's death is notable enough to belong in in the news. [4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Recent_deaths&diff=0&oldid=14612962) John Kenney 00:14, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

IMHO he's not. I'd think that only major presidents and politicians and such would count; a three-term Wisconsin senator doesn't seem to cut it. For example, I don't think I'd even support mentioning ol' Jesse Helms on here. Strom Thurmond, maybe. --Golbez 03:41, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

Srebrenica Massacre

I think perhaps there should be some mention of the recent controversy related to the Srebrenica Massacre. For those of you who don't know, a video showing the execution of 6 civilians from Srebrenica in 1995 by a unit under the command of the Serbian govt was revealed during Hague testimony and has since been shown throughout the balkans. Asim Led 05:13, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

They couldn't give a shit about anything unless it's american, so don't bother. No there is a spelling bee on there in place of important news about Srebrenica

In fact it's possible this story has not even been mentioned on some american tv news, so we can't really blame Wikipedia for not knowing about it, but they should make an effort, maybe check international news websites sometimes

If you want it on here, mention it on the Candidates page. The chap who wanted the spelling bee item did, and look where it got him! Buck up, chaps. --Golbez 20:19, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

Can someone tell me what the controversy is actually about? Are people disputing the accuracy of the videotapes? Or do they think it is inappropiate? --Fangz 15:58, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Walter Mondale

See recent deaths and [5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Walter_Mondale&diff=0&oldid=14714661). The death of a former vice president definately belongs in the in the news box. John Kenney 23:37, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sorry but I've got to disagree with that one. violet/riga (t) 23:44, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You are aware that he was the Democratic nominee for president in 1984 against Ronald Reagan, right? Not including his death in "in the news" would make as little sense as not including the story, if (say) Al Gore died. John Kenney 23:47, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This probably should go on the front page. However, I can't find anywhere confirming his death. If I see it, I'll add it. Dmn / Դմն 23:56, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

"Walter Mondale dies" and "Walter Mondale died" get a total of three google hits, none of which actually state that he did recently. One says 'I'd like to be there when Mondale dies' (paraphrased), one refers to the death of Mondale's brother, and one states 'raise your hand if you thought Walter Mondale died ten years ago'. →Iñgōlemo← ^talk</font> 00:03, 2005 Jun 5 (UTC)

The user who recommended this addition is not User:John Kenney, but User:JohnKenney, an impersonator (check his contributions). →Iñgōlemo← ^talk</font> 00:04, 2005 Jun 5 (UTC)

Did this user 'fake the death' of someone called William Proxmire earlier? Dmn / Դմն 00:11, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, this appears to be a hoax. User:Rdsmith4/Sig 00:12, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)

I've blocked User:JohnKenney. Dmn / Դմն 00:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Interestingly, an IP from Cambridge University vandalized my userpage with a redirect to yours shortly thereafter. We seem to get a lot of hoaxes from the people at Cambridge. User:Rdsmith4/Sig 00:24, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)