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User talk: DavidWBrooks/2003 archive

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Comparing

Thank you, David, I enjoyed your note about the copy editing article. I'm mildly surprised; I thought reporters usually weren't interested in that type of thing. :) Maurreen 08:02, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

AOL

I see that you reverted my contribution to the AOL page. I do not see what was wrong with my addition, as the current America Online article fails to mention this usage of AOL. A previous version did mention similar usage; however, the article has since progressed to become "about the company" (and noting this usage on that page seems inappropriate). IMHO, the usage I noted should be mentioned somewhere and the AOL page appears to be a good place. I would appreciate it if you will give me a reason for your revert. I also posted to Talk:America Online.

-- UTSRelativity 21:40, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I have had the same problems with timeouts on Wikipedia so I know that it is annoying. I understand your reasons for not wanting a disambiguation page (especially since it takes so long to get a page from Wikipedia). I will attempt to add the information to the current "NPOV edit" on the America Online page.
-- UTSRelativity 03:02, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

About marking edits as "minor"

Hi, I'd like to make you aware (or remind you) that the "minor edit" checkbox on the editing page for an article is only to be used for typo and presentation corrections. As Help:Minor edit says, "any change that affects the meaning of an article is not minor, even if it is only a single word." The main article on this is Wikipedia:Minor edit.

I've noticed that almost all your edits are marked minor, while a bit of examination suggests that less than half of them should be. Perhaps you need to alter your default on your Special:Preferences page to turn the "minor" checkbox off (its under "Editing"). Thanks for fixing this. -R. S. Shaw 04:14, 2005 Jan 26 (UTC)

  • David, re your msg to me: No, I wasn't on "minor edit patrol" - I don't go in for playing hall monitor. I was revisiting an article, and it seemed substantially smaller than I remembered it, so I started looking at the history. I didn't find the edit that halved the article size for awhile because it was marked "minor". When I saw that the user making the change tagged most of his edits minor, I thought I should say something. -R. S. Shaw 19:47, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

strong language

discussion has become obsolete, regards, Akidd_dublin 200501281840 200501311413

Capital letters

i have not found an explicit policy at Wikipedia! it is taken for granted it would be obligatory because it is taught this way in schools.

indeed, it is just a way to emphasize, and for instruction lists it does not make any difference, as long as one applies consistency and logic. the point is that writing things in big letters looks nasty. writing in small letters is easier to read and faster to type.

i have said nothing against interpunctation.

Akidd_dublin 200501301822 200501311411

Comment Box

I believe I know how to copy my comment box and move it to your talk page, achanging it as necessary for your Talk page data. I like it becase it autmatically puts new stuff at the bottom, easier to find and less chance of screwing up earlier messages. I can do it for you a lot easier than explain it if you would like it, let me know. Vaoverland 23:34, Jan 31, 2005 (UTC)

new message box

Testing. If this is working, your new box is installed. I copied it with permission from another WP user who got it the same way. Hope you enoy. let me know. Mark in Richmond Vaoverland 13:43, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)

Ecoregions

I saw you were working on List of ecoregions and wanted to point out that while the complete list is not yet up anywhere on Wikipedia, the data is all there, but divided between the various biome and ecozone pages. You might have already seen it, and thus this post is useless, but I do hope it is not the case. Good luck in collapsing these to a single list! --Circeus 20:09, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)

Re: Linking dates.

I'll consider that. I've been here about a year or two but still, I've never really thought out that. I do agree that linking dates and over-linkage gets really annoying but I didn't think anyone would notice. But the GEnie article looked a little bland, too much black text an not enough links but maybe I was wrong. Cheers! --Saint-Paddy 21:43, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

FOAF

Yeah, proper disambiguation is probably in order (even if the social use is a bit dic def-ish--enuf articles are looking for that usage it's probably defensible). I'll try to work on it when I'm more awake. Niteowlneils 19:36, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism

I happened to be looking at your userpage, I believe, because I had seen the username before (and I now see it was because I posted the above Ecoregions comment), but I can,t recall from where I came... Circeus 17:46, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)

The Quarrymen

Thank you for the simple but sophisticated edit of dividing the article in that way. It is a real enhancement. Good work! --Theo (Talk) 02:04, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Chuck Amato

Hi, I'm new to the world of Wikipedia. Thanks for modifying the Chuck Amato page. I tried to paraphase as much as possible from his assorted bios that I could find on the internet but might not have changed them enough. Any comments are welcome as I can see from your contributions that you're a prolific contributor.

Thanks,

Steve

Jocelyn Guidry deletion

George Passantino is a reasonably famous artist in the Southern New England area and is recently deceased. One of the important effects of an artist is to follow both his past influences (listed but not yet completed) and his ongoing effects. George Sutherland, a senior artist and student of George Passantino, is also a noted artist in Southern New England. Jocelyn Guidry is his senior student following in the same tradition. Before I can even begin to build the tree of influence of George Passantino you've begun deleting it. Why?

It's hard to respond to you if I don't know who you are ... - DavidWBrooks 02:49, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

David,

I'm [| Tim Daly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk%3ADaly)], the author of the page. I've set out to detail the artist George Passantino who recently passed away. I'm tracing the lineage of influence backward and forward. You deleted a page seconds after it was posted. I had not yet gotten a chance to fully research Jocelyn Guidry except to note that she is related to Ron Guidry. I was busy looking backward toward George's past influence.

Please restore the page. If I don't find anything of interest in the future I'll gladly delete it. However George Passantino is, locally, a major artist and it will take some time to complete the research.

It seems rather judgemental of you to destroy hours worth of searching without contacting me first. Please take the time to at least ask before you destroy my work.

me again... I read the candidates for speedy deletion section and the criteria do not seem to apply. It hardly seems worth trying to contribute to this site if you're just going to delete work. Why not try to do some research and update the entry? I was under the impression that the key idea of Wikipedia was that people who knew more details would make the entries more detailed. Your bio does not show me why you're qualified to judge artists from southern New England and you clearly didn't take time to evaluate the worth of the entry (or your searching abilities far exceed mine).

I may have been too hasty; wikipedia has had a rash of vandalism lately, apparently due to the Wired magazine article, and my first assumption of the article was that they were cut-and-paste of non-notables - America, after all, has hundreds of thousands of art teachers who have had pictures exhibted at some sort of show. (This has become a real plague, with people dumping their personal Web page into wikipedia). Sometimes a bout of deleting nonsense and vandalism can be so irritating that everything starts to look like bilge, and it sounds like I over-reacted: I would be happy to resurrect the page but, oddly, I cannot find George Passantino in the deletion log. Was that the name of the article?
And why don't you create an account [[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Userlogin)]? It makes it easier to sign your posts, so people can send you comments on articles.

Well, clearly your reading skills need polishing. I have an account, listed in the hyperlink in this same article. Note that this edit is titled "Jocelyn Guidry deletion", not "George Passantino deletion" so it is reasonable to expect that we're talking about the Jocelyn Guidry page. Further, I can easily find George Passantino by typing that string into the search box and pressing Go. Lastly, *YOU* were the one who deleted the Jocelyn Guidry page so claiming confusion about the deleted item seems disingenuous at best. Since you're clearly putting more effort into destroying and blocking my work than attempting to contribute I'll simply take my efforts elsewhere.

Being an editor is a serious responsibility and you fail to take it seriously.

Whoa - calm down, my huffy friend. Jocelyn Guidry page is restored, and wikified (don't put exterior links in the text, please). But it will probably get deleted soon by somebody else unless you edit it to show why she should be an article - just being a painter and somebody's cousin and somebody else's student doesn't really seem too significant.
And you haven't' got an account - follow your own link and you'll see it says "Wikipedia does not yet have an article with this exact name" Try again! - DavidWBrooks 16:09, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Zope

Hey!! What's up with the whole article on Zope? You removed not only the links to the solution providers, which indeed could be classified as advertising, but also all the passages about it's major technical features, and also a lot of links to the community resources. Zope is an open source project, you know, and it *does* have a community! Alga 01:46, 2005 Mar 4 (UTC)

But the Unix and Windows articles do have information about what's special about those systems. That was the kind of information that you deleted. It might be technical, but there are even more technical articles here. I hope you don't mind if I edit that information back in. Alga 17:48, 2005 Mar 4 (UTC)

Bozo the Clown

Hello. Regarding Bozo, sure, I'll try to add some info about the Brazilian version on the article. It's just a little difficult since I really don't remember much about that show. Pretty much nothing. But I'll try. I just need to do a small research, and then I'll add the info when I can. It looks like they had Bozo in Mexico as well, but I'm not sure yet. I'll see.

Thank you.--Kaonashi 04:41, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hi again. I finally took my time to add some information about the Brazilian Bozos to the Bozo the Clown article. I'm sorry for the huge procrastination, but it's there now. Pretty much all I could gather. It seems like this subject is somewhat hard to find about in the 'Net, so perhaps I'm mistaken on some parts there. In that case, feel free to correct whatever looks wrong there. I'd be glad. By the way, I also added some small section regarding Ronald McDonald, since Bozo played a major role on the creation of that clown. Anyway, go take a look at it and see what you think.

Again, sorry for all the wait. Thank you.--Kaonashi 04:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

New wiki?

Hi, David. I wonder if you might be interested in a possible new wiki about journalism. Notes are at User:Maurreen/Journalism. Maurreen 08:48, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

podcast411

David,

Please let me know what constitues SPAM on wiki. My site has no commercial content - not even a google sense ad. I offer a tutorial on how to podcast. Which to me seems to be a perfect fit to the Wki model. free info in a community. Radman compared my site to that of one that clearly has a commercial motive with ads. As I understand Spam - It is unrelated material of a commercial nature. My site is niether. Please send an e-mail to rob@podcast411. I would first suggest you visit my site www.podcast411.com to check it for yourself.

Regards, Rob W podcast411

I didn't call it spam - somebody else did. I called it unnecessary. See the Podcasting's talk page. I have seen your site; it's fine - but wikipedia isn't a link farm. - DavidWBrooks 17:04, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Categories

Hi there! I've heard you speak about the problems of the category system before, so please drop by at Wikipedia:Categorization policy? Thanks. Radiant_* 10:41, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)

Jules Henry

Hello: I am trying to develop a Jules Henry entry here. I wrote one, today. Did you start one, too?

Thanks,

Nora Wright

I moved yours (I guess it was yours) to give it the proper title (capital letters, no quote marks) and proper wikipedia markup, and removed some repetitive or extraneous sentences. It's the same article - please continue editing and adding! (And maybe create an account so people can leave you messages, too) - DavidWBrooks 19:10, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm novice, here, and appreciate your assistance. Nora

Vandalism

I noticed it so quickly because the same guy vandalized my own talk page just before he hit yours. User:Rdsmith4/Sig 02:14, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

a question on your edit

Hi David. I noticed you removed my wikilink from pancake to Breece D'J Pancake and was curious as to why. I assume that you assumed the name was a joke which is quite understandable. It is an odd name, but feel free to google it or look up his book of stories on Amazon. I am new here, so I may not understand the system completely, but I thought that people looking for Mr. Pancake's entry might simply enter his last name and get the pancake article, and that people interested in pancakes may also be interested to hear about someone with Pancake for a last name. I'd like to repost it, but I want to be sure I'm not out of bounds by doing so. I'd just like to hear from you first. Thanks. -Tzethus (aka Matt Vest)

P.S. -- Sorry, I posted this originally on your user page, but I reverted it. Newbie confusion...

Nevil Shute: good work...

...on reorganizing and tightening. Dpbsmith (talk) 19:05, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Deletion

I put the article Kel millionie up for VfD shortly after you deleted it, so I accidentally created the page again in the process. Can you please delete the page again? -- Deadcorpse 16:41, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)

Nasty Messages

David,

I would just like you to know that I have responded to your nasty message in the Community Portal under disputes.

I may be ignorant of Wikipedia, but that does not mean that I do not have coutesy. I was under a tight schedule and wanted to get the articles on and was going to go back and wikify them later.

I have wikified many articles myself and copy edited many articles myself, and I have never sent one person a nasty email.

I do not appreciate your nasty message at all and am very offended by it, which is why I posted an email in the community portal.

You may be some really great journalst, but you have a lot to learn about common courtesy and treating people with respect.

For the most part, all I have seen of people in this group is they are really critical and bitchy.

Your message has to be the bitchiest message I have seen so far, so please don't sent me any more messages because they are not welcome.

--TracyRenee 17:48, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

A phrase that sets off alarm bells

From the deletion log: "deleted Brian Richmond: non-notable, incomprehensible".

Be careful. I have no doubt your judgment call was right, but a phrase like non-notable is something that should be reserved for VfD only, not as a reason for speedy deletion. It's contentious enough on VfD as it is; don't use it for speedying. Restrict yourself to reasons given in WP:CSD only. Otherwise you're setting yourself up for harassment by people who will cry abuse and happily go to WP:VfU to request undeletion for everything you speedy, and there's little you could hold against them. I don't know if something like this has happened before, but it wouldn't surprise me. As they say, prevention is better than a cure.
I'm one of those people who happens to think most of our admins are not devious megalomaniacs who systematically abuse their privileges, but heaven knows there's no shortage of people who think exactly that. Let's not give them ammo. JRM 19:14, 2005 Mar 30 (UTC)

Yes, I've found shifting work avenues does wonders for reducing one's Wikistress, especially if you do RC patrolling a lot. Copyediting FACs or checking whether a featured article is still in order is always a joy, and occasionally Special:Randompage gives you something really nice. Whatever you do, don't become an RC zombie. We have plenty of those.
Number one reason for snapping is thinking Wikipedia will collapse if you don't do your duty, and you're the only one who can do it. Relax. We are many, and we are inevitable. :-) JRM 19:27, 2005 Mar 30 (UTC)

Glad to help...

Just trying to keep things from escalating too far. I don't think anything you said was inflammatory; I think that the user in question is merely more sensitive to the phrasing of suggestions that the average Wikipedian. There is no way you could have known. I applaud you for not rising to the bait of her response. It is a good idea in general to avoid long stretches on new page patrol -- watching articles pile up by the minute is a good way to raise one's blood pressure and wikistress at the same time! - Bantman 22:04, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

Invitation to join wikiproject business world

Based on your interests and contibutions, I'd like to invite you to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Business world. Thanks in advance, --Leifern 19:58, 2005 Mar 31 (UTC)

The Washington Post

Why did you revert my section about "Opinions" on The Washington Post article? --Vikingstad 15:19, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

Well, it was, as you understood, not my opinion, but the (editorial) political view of the newspaper itself. I believe this is really useful information, just look at The Economist of an example of how it's nicely done. What I added was just the little I know, then hoping someone would add more later (you know, this being a wiki and all ;) --Vikingstad 15:41, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

Signpost

I hope you don't mind - I outed you in Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2005-04-04/In the news and Michael changed the article accordingly. I assume there is only one of us at the Telegraph. David Brooks 18:13, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

nevil_shute

Hi! Even though you are a fellow traveller libertarian, I'd appreciate it if you would reply to my comment on the Nevil_Shute talk page - I really do think that the entire paragraph I deleted is pov and should be deleted, as I explain in my comment. I don't expect to succeed without your approval, so please consider in your heart of hearts if it is really based in verifiable reality. yours truly - Johan Öhman

But...

Extra special bragging rights deserve more promenient attention. Lotsofissues 13:53, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Edward Pease

Nice job on the Edward Pease article. Your edits improved it greatly. Logophile 16:04, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Why delete modern examples?

Why in the world did you delete the modern examples from the urban legend page??? Urban legends are by nature modern, as opposed to regular legends.

news-stub image?

There are actually a number of missing images. My guess is the developers still do not have everything back up after the power hit that was reported on the IRC chat a couple of hours ago. --Allen3 talk 14:31, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

Fairfax County

Thanks, I put it on a link from a new stub article about the school district instead, and linked that to the county. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 20:14, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Critical Information on Jehovah's Witnesses

OK, I have accepted that this fifth version (as a redirect) can stay. But I am a bit interested in who created the first four versions. Do you have that info?

Sorry, forgot the signature. :-( No, it is not that you edited them, but I wonder if you have access the info on who created this many times over (or who restored the content which was deleted again and again). The reason I want to find out is that I believe that it may be related to some personal attacks on a VfD debate and I am collecting evidence at User:Sjakkalle/Eyesopen. The reason I asked you is that your an admin currently logged in. Sjakkalle 13:22, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

pancakes pix

Hello - I am sorry that you did not like my pictures of Scottish pancakes. I did myself find them appealing and characteristic, and am sorry you deleted them. Yours, Daderot.

Joe Sparks

Hi

Why did you edit my article? I can see why "award winning" was edited out as it only needs to be mentioned once, but he really was interviewed in those mags that I listed, and Dickie and Jackie IS his upcoming show. Why edit that out?

Dan

I can't answer you if you don't give me a place to answer - that is, create an account. I don't know that you'll look here again. Anyway, I edited out the magazine interviews because everybody gives magazine interviews - they were not notable enough to be mentioned - and I edited out upcoming shows because wikipedia doesn't write about future, not-yet-happened events. - DavidWBrooks 00:50, 31 May 2005 (UTC)


Hmmm. Ok. I put in the magazine interviews though, so people could make sure that they knew he was at least well known in the industry/know he is of significance, since not many people have actually heard of him (well, not many people I have come across, anyway). But I suppose many people do give interviews, yes.

Dan

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Freifunk

Article has been rewriiten by User:Sven-ola. I have replaced my delete nomination vote with a "no vote". Can you reread to reconsider or affirm your delete vote? Sjakkalle 08:07, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Podshare

Hi, David. I found your name over and over on the podcasting article, and thought I'd get your advice. I ran across this article today, and hoped you'd take a look at it. Clearly, what is there is an advertisement and plea for funds for Richard Vobes and his show. It's easy to see what needs to come out, but I'm not familar enough with podcasting to know what needs to be put back in, or whether podsharing is significant enough for its own article. Would you mind taking a look? Thanks. Joyous 15:27, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. It's frustrating to see that something is blatantly wrong with an article, but not know what to do to fix it. Joyous 17:23, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Red Sox record

You might be fighting a losing battle. I've seen some other teams' articles where fans are updating their teams' current won-lost record almost on a daily basis. They would be better off simply posting a link to the current-standings page on mlb.com or some such. Wahkeenah 06:27, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The San Diego Padres, for example. Wahkeenah 06:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

And the Los Angeles Dodgers. Wahkeenah 06:54, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

italics for quotes

Hi. I'm not sure I agree with your deletion of the italics in Lenna — all the articles I've came across that contain quotes have them indented and italicised, and I haven't seen a complaint of illegibility yet. Just wondering... Dewet 21:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Certainly. Here are a few examples (that I've picked out of my contributions): Virgil Fox, Nelson Mandela, Mobcasting, Afrikaans Language Monument. I also generally prefer to leave off the quotation marks, since the quote is obvious from the typesetting. Dewet 09:58, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Katie Graham's tittie

Ah, Didn't see that. Oops. john k 02:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I can only take credit for finding the map, but thanks! Mhking 18:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Paper Birch / White Birch

I used the Paper Birch link because that leads to the correct page (Paper Birch being the name used by the USDA); White Birch leads to the European species Betula pubescens, which isn't the NH state tree. If you think it should be called White Birch (or more accurately American White Birch) in NH-specific instances, then use a piped link [[Paper Birch|American White Birch]]. 'American White Birch' is already listed as an alternative name at Paper Birch. - MPF 10:30, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks; I did it already on the NH page when I saw you'd gone offline :-) MPF 18:06, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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