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Category:Programming languages
Hi, I was wondering why you removed 'Category:Programming languages' from all lists of programming languages? Yet you left 'Category:Esoteric programming languages' in the List of esoteric programming languages article. Was that by mistake?-) ZeroOne 12:42, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Hi,ZeroOne. I decided not to touch the subcategories, since by their own nature, they give rise to lists of programming languages (say, the LISP subcategory -> list of Lisp-related prog langs, and so on). Perhaps we should make an attempt to standardize on the subcategory naming convention, though. The other possible way to use the Category/subcategory hierarchy would be to use the subcategories to actually hold the links to their languages, rather than the Prog Lang category; but this approach has many disadvantages IMO: languages could end up in both the category and subcategory, and there would be no equivalent to the current de facto alphabetical list produced by the category (in fact, if we stick to a consistent interpretation of the category elements, we don't need the List of Prog Langs in Alphabetical Order article any more). Furthermore, if a consensus is reached on how to use the subcategories, we might end up not needing the List of Categorical prog langs article either. One more thing... I did remove HQ9plus as a programming language, but left it as an esoteric one, on the grounds that since it is easier to come up with a valid new esoteric language than with a full-blown language entry, eventually we would end up with a Prog Langs category with an overwhelming majority of esoteric mini-langs over the real langs. Please let me know what you think. Have a good day. danakil
- I think the main reason that we need lists of programming languages is because an article does not exist for each and every language yet. Thus the categories can't create automatic lists that would be complete. Neither can categories organize the languages in a chronological order etc. The problem of languages falling under their specific category and/or the main category is real, though. How would it be decided what languages should have their own sub categories? Etc etc... Maybe we could even setup a new Wikiproject in order to get some standards on programming languages and also get new articles written about as many new languages as possible. Let me know what you think. -ZeroOne 20:51, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Programming languages wikiproject
ZeroOne, what do you think about setting up the wikiproject ourselves? Changing subjects: since you seem to be interested in esoteric prog langs, could you possibly verify that all those in the List of Esoteric Prog Langs are indeed categorized as: Category:Esoteric programming languages? —danakil
- You know what I just figured: Wikipedia:WikiProject Programming Languages already exists! Let's just join that one. About esoteric langs: How about I check langs from 0 to M and you from N to Z? -ZeroOne 20:27, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Ok, you were too slow, I already checked all the languages for categories. ^_^ --ZeroOne 22:50, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Can I bring up a list of revised non-esoteric prog langs in my defense? :-D Good job, ZeroOne. Cheers — danakil 20:30, Sep 4, 2004 (UTC)
NOTOC
Sorry, ZeroOne. It was me: I was experimenting with the effects of not using a TOC on certain, rather short, articles and I forgot to remove it. Do you have an opinion or any thoughts on the matter? — danakil 20:27, Sep 4, 2004 (UTC)
- The article wasn't that sort as it did have four headers. I think a table of contents gives articles certain credibility, not to mention usability: with a small resolution (like 1024x768 or less) you don't necessarily see anything but the first header, if the chapters are long. Using the TOC you can quickly get to the chapter that's interesting and also see if there actually is anything interesting in the article without scrolling the screen. Also if more headers are added in the future the TOC becomes more important but people might forget to remove the NOTOC message. I can't really think any other use for NOTOC but alphabetic lists and such for which nice, short template TOCs exist. --ZeroOne 20:36, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comments. They changed my mind by helping me put things in perspective (I use a 1600x1200 screen with anti-aliased small fonts). — danakil 21:28, Sep 4, 2004 (UTC)
Dr. Michael Krop High School
Hello ZeroOne, I saw you improved the formatting of the table in this article. Could you please go to the DELETION votes page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Dr._Michael_M._Krop_High_School, and vote KEEP? It has taken me many hours of work to improve the article, and some people still want to DELETE it (it's so difficult to "build" and so easy to "destroy" that it is sad...) Your help will be greatly appreciated.--AAAAA 20:49, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Sure. Done. --ZeroOne 21:43, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help! :) --AAAAA 21:52, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Civ series template
Hi, I wonder about the construction of the Civilization template... the 'other' category is what concerns me. I wonder if it could include other related games, and how related they would be. For example, Colonization. ? Krupo 17:16, Oct 24, 2004 (UTC)
- I thought it would include games that have Civilization in their names but aren't made by Sid Meier. --ZeroOne 17:22, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Makes sense, but that definition can easily get misinterpreted. For example, Galactic Civilizations has the word, although it's obviously quite different. Similarly, Freeciv would then require addition, eh? On the other hand, the original Civilization article mentions Colonization, drawing it closer into the series' orbit... Krupo 03:15, Oct 26, 2004 (UTC)
Brainfork
Hi ZeroOne. I edited the Brainfork article, undoing some of your changes to my changes and expanding the part about compatibility. I hope I made the situation more clear. Please see my comment in the talk page. Thanks,
--positron 20:57, 2004 Nov 11 (UTC)
The Humungous Image Tagging Project
Hi. You've helped with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)
- Hi, and thanks for the info. I'll start tagging the images rightaway. :) --ZeroOne 16:08, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
- Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
- Multi-Licensing Guide
- Free the Rambot Articles Project
To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:
- Option 1
- I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
- {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}
OR
- Option 2
- I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
- {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}
Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit§ion=new)| talk)
- I've added a FAQ question dealing with the difference between the CC-by-SA 1.0 and CC-by-SA 2.0 licenses. – Ram-Man (comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit§ion=new)) (talk)[[]] 21:50, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)
Oops
Your December 26 edit of Unlambda seriously damaged the code examples. Please try to be more careful in the future. Thanks. --Dominus 13:06, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- What the... :O I swear I don't know where those <q> tags came from! I wouldn't do anything like that myself, maybe it was a bug in Wikipedia or in Opera? Wouldn't someone have fixed it sooner had the error been there? Anyway... I can't prove that I didn't do it. I'm deeply sorry if it really was because of something I did. --ZeroOne 14:17, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- It looks like your browser is probably at fault (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Unlambda&diff=9199356&oldid=8838391) here, inserting smart quotes. Not a big deal, of course, but something to watch out for. dbenbenn | talk 12:12, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Image:Rk62 disassembled.jpg and the Commons
Hi ZeroOne,
Great photo at Image:Rk62 disassembled.jpg! Are you aware of the Commons? If you upload your picture there, it can be used by all Wikipedias, for example fi:Rk 62. I'd be happy to upload it there if you like; just let me know.
Thanks, dbenbenn | talk 22:38, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for the tip. :) I created an account to Commons (even though I think there are already too many wiki-projects where each one requires a new account), uploaded the image and added it to fi:Rk 62 too. --ZeroOne 10:33, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Opeing move popularity
Hi
Regarding which moves are poular and not, I have used this database (http://www.chesslive.de) and looked at the "moves" tab. Master games are overrepresented in the database, but not exclusive. Sjakkalle 10:45, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Wikiproject Chess
Hi again!
I'll sign on, but I will probably be stepping down my activity too the coming weeks. Sjakkalle 06:06, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Template:Chess position
Thanks for putting the board coordinates in the template. I had wondered if that could be done, and you just did it.
I wonder if we should have a second template that doesn't include the coords. If you look at Slav Defense, there's a large main diagram that looks great with the coordinates and many smaller diagrams that I think looked better packed tighter without coordinates.
What do you think? --Quale 03:46, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- No problem. I actually wondered why no one had done it before. I think more templates would just make it confusing. People would use the no coords template with the main diagram and coords version with smaller diagrams anyway. But one thing I was thinking was to create a second template where there would be space for commentary under the board. It would just be a simple table where in the upper row you'd have the board and in the lower one the text. Actually it could be done with the existing template by adding another parameter at the end! Leaving it empty, as it would be by default and as it now is, would only create an invisible row. How about that? --ZeroOne 10:12, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- If you can put in a optional caption parameter, it would be nice. Right now to put a caption under a diagram I think you have to put the chess position table inside another table. At least that's what I did in Slav Defense.
- On another note, I tried the Wikipedia:Picture_tutorial#Photo_gallery suggestion of simply placing the chess positions one after the other and floating them all to the left follwed by clearing the left float at the end, but it didn't work well. The end result was a kind of a stair-step down as each position to the right started one line lower than the one to the left. Do you know any way to make that work? The advantages are that it's simpler and the positions would wrap to the width of the screen rather than forcing a fixed 3x2 setup as I used in Slav Defense. --Quale 17:24, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Dis-ambiguation template
I was told that the dis-ambiguation template should be a footer. You, however, appear to say it should be a header when I saw an edit of yoursin RC. Why?? Georgia guy 14:31, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
- I suppose you mean the edit I made in Tiger (disambiguation). My justification was that the page is so long that one cannot see the message rightaway. Most disambiguation pages are much smaller, there the message can be at the bottom of the page. --ZeroOne 14:36, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
King's Knight's Gambit
Hi, ZeroOne! I have merged your King's Knight's Gambit article with the main King's Gambit article. Some of the information in your article was already in the King's Gambit one and I thought it looked best to have all that information in one article. Hope you're not too upset with me doing so. Sjakkalle 09:58, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
- Oh, of course I'm not upset. Good job. :) --ZeroOne 23:05, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
Template:Tl
As you probably know already, the template you created (Template:Tl) has been nominated for deletion at WP:TFD. I've voted keep there, but I'd like to know why you chose those languages. The nominator said that the 8 languages were arbitrarily chosen. I highly doubt this, and I'd appreciate it if you could just leave a quick explanation about why those specific languages were chosen. I presume they are the most popular/famous ones?
Please leave your response at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:esolangs. Thanks! -Frazzydee|✍ 22:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- No, I failed to notice that! Thanks. They are mostly the canonical examples of esoteric programming languages. Befunge and Brainfuck are the types of languages to which other languages are compared to and referred to as Brainfuck-variants of Befunge-variants, etc. INTERCAL is the oldest known esoteric programming language. The others are also canonical and interesting concepts. --ZeroOne 22:44, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response & vote :) We'll see whether the template stays or goes in 7 days. I know how much it would hurt to see your baby get deleted (happened to me once!), and I personally hope that it doesnt— I'd find that template useful if I was interested in esoteric languages ;) -Frazzydee|✍ 22:59, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)