User talk:Samboy

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Vandals

Thanks for giving us a heads-up on those vandals you reported. I blocked 61.149.223.228 for 3 hours (long enough for him to tire and decide to goto bed without too much collateral damage). 205.188.116.200 is part of an AOL block that lives at 205.188.0.0/16 - we prefer to block these for very short periods (15 minutes or so) in cases of serious vandalism. As you can imagine, we see an awful lot of vandals come in from there.

Thanks again!

-- ClockworkSoul 08:26, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Afshar etc.

Thanks for playing a constructive role in this discussion. I did notice your comment about the need for an illustration and agree fully with it. You also offered to provide a gimp-made illustration; if need be I'll volunteer to make an XFIG illustration (which would be sketchier of course) since my artistic talents never really motivated me to learn to use the gimp.

My own personal view on the Afshar experiment is a great deal of skepticism. But that discussion really got personal and vitriolic, so that's one reason why I appreciate your efforts.

Thanks!

CSTAR 14:32, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

a great deal of skepticism. That's an understatement. --CSTAR 17:48, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
As you might have noticed, I have edited the Afshar experiment page; please see my comments at Talk:Afshar experiment. My edits are extremely conservative, and I have stopped exactly at the point where I would have to explicitly write down what's wrong with Afshar's experiment (based on the formal definition of complementarity based on consistent histories). These discussions are pointless.
I would appreciate it if you had a look at the page and make necessary stylistic edits. This episode is another lowpoint for the wikipedia experiment. This should serve as a case study. --CSTAR 22:43, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for cleaning up chess. You may also want to check out origins of chess, as it needs some work too. That could, possibly, be merged or VfD'ed if the information is duplicated somewhere. Oh, and when you clean something up, check to see if it's still on Wikipedia:Cleanup. Sometimes people list stuff there, sometimes they don't. In retrospect I probably shouldn't have put chess on Wikipedia:Cleanup, since it's probably on a ton of users watchlists, but it was just a force of habit. Take care, and thanks again. CryptoDerk 02:27, Dec 24, 2004 (UTC)

Hi Samboy

I saw your beef elsewhere - won't mention names - but if you look on his Talk page you will see a User agreeing with him. I suspect that it is one and the same person who is using different names to wage various wars which are all pointless. However, the tactic he uses is to accuse the other person of what he is doing himself. He turns every factual discussion into a personal attack and then he denies that he is doing so and attacks those who then point this out. I am sick of it (like you, apparently.) I do my best to ignore it except when it appears that he is getting away with his own POV because no one wants to tangle with him. MPLX/MH 18:26, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Your apology

As you have finally delivered the apology I requested from you on 10 August, 2004, I am willing, in the spirit of reconciliation, to cease further pursuit of the historic unpleasantness between us. --Gene_poole 22:53, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I apologize for not apologizing sooner. Samboy 06:38, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Angela

Well, it looks like whether the article is deleted will actually depend on votes this time, so it would probably be best if you voted the way you thought. silsor 05:23, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

Double-voting sockpuppet?

Yes, I've checked some edit logs and it seems rather suspicious. I'd suggest you inform User_talk:Jayjg, he is presently looking into it. Yours, Radiant_* 21:20, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

NAMBLA

Thanks for your offer of support. The most useful thing you can do is drop by regularly and revert the article to my most recent edit, so that I don't have to do it and get banned under the 3R rule. Adam 13:52, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Jimbo's page

I like what you did with the top panel: the new contrast is pleasant. – ClockworkSoul 03:01, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Pope Benedict Style discussion

I wasn't sure if you realized it but the comment that Whig deleted (that was being referenced in the duplicitious comment that you rightfully reverted) was the 1st (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pope_Benedict_XVI&diff=13771232&oldid=13771162) and 2nd (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3APope_Benedict_XVI&diff=13773594&oldid=13773283) reversions - although borderline the original paragraph contained alot of detail and the personal attack could have been deleted without deleting the entire paragraph. The reversions of duplicitous comment came later. Trödel|talk 02:23, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Sally Hemings and Thomas Jefferson

Yes, I know. I suggested as much. I visited Thomas Jefferson and made separate subheads for the Hemings controversy and the conflict of ideals posed by Jefferson's advocacy of freedom and the natural rights of "man" and his slaveholding, but haven't had the time to do much more than that. I suppose I could cut do a referral to the MLK talk page for those interested in following up. You, perhaps? :) Peace 2 u. deeceevoice 01:18, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

RUSH

There is another issue, and/or a point of contention: RUSH to my knowledge never released any singles. "Tom Sawyer" is there biggest hit, and know doubt had it been released as a single would have been number 1. But Spirit of Radio, Closer to The Heart, Limelight would have also been big singles sellers. There were two factors here:

  • ONE) Rush was not a "Pop" group and they were NOT trying to target the pop market. They were a progressive group, and targeted the album-orientated rock stations, the ones that played songs off albums, not singles.
  • TWO) By the time RUSH made it big was the late 1970's. 45's were headed to the graveyard at that time; CD's weren't going to be around until 1988, single cassette tapes were never very popular. Bands like RUSH, Boston, Yes, Kansas, etc, were NOT going after the singles market, they wanted long songs, on albums, and long concerts. So part of it is the market. Who the bands were targeting, and who the consumers were that purchased the music. I either purchased the full LP, or the full cassettes, I thought cassette singles were a waist of money, and most of my friends did the same thing. We also liked to listen to the entire album. Radio stations back then would play an entire album every night at 11:00pm, and then again at 2:00am. Many stations would have a 5:00pm drive-home, focus-spot-light, for an hour on one band, then do another one from 8:00 to 12:00. Also shows like the "King Biscuit Flower Hour" and Don Kirshner's Presents" or "Don Kirshner's Rock Concert" were big back then, they would do two-hour radio shows at night, with interviews and some live tracks.

I guarantee you if RUSH wanted to target the "POP" or "TOP 40" demographic, which is: bubble-gum chewing, 15-year old girls, love songs, market, they could have done so with fifty Top 40 singles. But this was not RUSH. WikiDon 03:38, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Well, you can copy+paste (or cut+paste) over my information above and add to the "one-hit" talk page. But, RUSH was NOT a one-hit band, no "ifs" "ands" or "buts" about it. And if those guys know the music business they would know it too. I have no doubt that Alex, Geddy, and Neil could have done anything that they had wanted to. If you took every rock band out there, and broke them into parts and rated & gave points for each individual part, like this: Bass, Lead Guitar; Drums; Lyrics; Melody; ability LIVE; Bass lead; etc., RUSH would have one of the highest scores going. Alex is a top guitarest, Geddy is a top bassist, and Neil is a top drummer and lyricist, and it is contemporary rock artist that say so. Also here is a couple of quotes from Neil (who wrote 99% of RUSH's lyrics; they may not be exact but close) about how he felt about the "pop-love song" market: "I think that love songs are actively harmful. They invent this fantasy that people expect their own relationships to live up to and when they don't they result in divorce, or worse suicide." and "I've always shyed away from love songs and even mentioning the word in songs because it's so much cliche..." This guy wasn't Barry Manilow, and the band wasn't Airsupply!
In the early 1980's I was listening to RUSH, the 15-20 y/o girls were listening to Michael Jackson, and look at that guy...

Bryan Ferry and Psychedelic Furs

"Slave to Love" didn't chart on the Billboard Hot 100. It charted on Mainstream Rock Tracks chart though, and peaked at #19.

"Pretty in Pink" peaked on the Hot 100 at #41. Carolaman 02:47, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

"Pretty in Pink" only charted in 1986. Carolaman 04:21, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Eyeon

You're welcome, Samboy. SlimVirgin (talk) 00:00, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

One-hit wonders..

You could add the following bands and musicians to your Bands and musicians with only one hit who are not one-hit wonders list: Emerson, Lake, and Palmer, Ted Nugent, Janis Joplin, Faith No More, Weezer, Radiohead, Cypress Hill, Beck, Ella Fitzgerald, Richard Harris, and Iron Butterfly. Carolaman 03:44, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I've done everyone except Janis Joplin, Weezer, Radiohead, Cypress Hill, Beck, Ella Fitzgerald, and Richard Harris. Samboy 03:38, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've now done everyone except Weezer, Radiohead, Cypress Hill, Beck, Ella Fitzgerald, and Richard Harris, none of whom I can assess off of the top of my head. Samboy 03:47, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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