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Re: Image:Bernini-a-d.jpg

OK, you got me. I uploaded this one in May 2003, at a time when I was, shall we say, less sensitive to copyright issues...

As far as I can tell my version is derived from this image (http://digilander.libero.it/debibliotheca/Arte/bernini/bernini_apollo_and_daphne.jpg) or a copy thereof, and I can't verify fair use. I have therefore removed the image from the relevant page. Have a nice year.Lee M 03:54, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

...And added an external link to the original instead. Lee M 04:14, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Okay, thanks Lee. I have changed the tag to {{unknown}}. RedWolf 00:13, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

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wheeeee. . . Crack!

Thanks for all the work you do, and continue to do, on image tagging. Happy new year. – Quadell (talk) (help) 05:30, Jan 1, 2005 (UTC)

A (belated) Happy New Year to you as well. RedWolf 00:16, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)

Images from Bertrand's paradox

Hello & happy new year. You left a message about tagging some images I made. I've added license tags to each one. I'll keep my eyes open for other images I've made that need them -- not too many I hope! Regards & happy editing, Wile E. Heresiarch 06:08, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Bot problems

African-American

RedWolf, please stop your bot. It is making improper corrections. See my points at Talk:Bankhead.
Ford 00:49, 2005 Jan 2 (UTC)

It seems a number of people have issues with your bot, please stop operating it until they are all resolved. More discussion at Wikipedia talk:Bots#Issue with CanisRufus bot. -- Netoholic @ 18:52, 2005 Jan 2 (UTC)

 :Image:Sykes-Picot bilevel work in progress.png

As the description says, this is a fair use image when used for the purpose given. Source information is also given, as is the fair use rationale. Jamesday 16:11, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Natural features categories

Just wanted to say thanks for all the work you're doing on moving items around in the "X natural features" -> "Natural featurs of X" category changes that I initiated. It's much appreciated! Grutness|hello? Missing image
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07:55, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Computer role-playing game categorization

Just curious.... I noticed you removed the CRPG categorization from a number of Final Fantasy pages (Final Fantasy II, Final Fantasy IV, etc.). I was just wondering why. -Seancdaug 11:42, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)

Category:Final Fantasy is a subcategory of the CRPG category so having the FF articles in CRPG is redundant. RedWolf 17:11, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)

Endurance Images

Sorry about that...I've inserted the source for the Image:Endurance (II).jpg, but haven't been able to find where I got the Image:Endurance (I).jpg from. I've uploaded another one, making sure that I added the source to the page, so the first can be deleted. Thanks for letting me know User:Hammersfan - 19/1/05, 18.02

No, the Image:Endurance (I).jpg image didn't come from the Royal Navy's website. As for the Image:Endurance (II).jpg image, I'll get it sorted ASAP. User:Hammersfan - 21/1/05, 10.05

Deletion of categories that won't delete

Just FYI, there's a template that somebody put together for articles and categories that can't be deleted due to "block-compressed revisions". See Template:Pending deletion. -Aranel ("Sarah") 15:05, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I saw it once but could not remember the name of the template when I ran into the issue again yesterday. It was not on the list of deletion templates. RedWolf 00:36, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)

Usage of numbers

You asked (Talk:Atlanterhavsveien) about the length of a road. As it is a long time ago, I'm letting you know here. The answer is that Norwegian numbers are written differently from English when it comes to the usage of "," and ".". --hans 13:07, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Image permission

I noticed that you've tagged my "Beautiful britain.." images with unverified. I have obtained permission from the copyright holder by email. What do you want me to do? Please reply on my talk page. Thanks! Lupin 18:43, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Speedy deletion candidate

I would like to know why you consider Image:WindowMaker-0.80.1-FreeBSD-4.10.jpg to not be a candidate for speedy deletion. Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion says "An image which is a redundant (all bits the same or scaled-down) copy of something else on Wikipedia and as long as all inward links have been changed to the image being retained" is a candidate for speedy deletion. There are already two other screenshots at Window Maker, one of 0.80.2 and one of 0.91.0 .

My screenshot is clearly not needed anymore and should be removed.

Darrien 06:33, 2005 Feb 5 (UTC)

Note the "all bits the same". The other images were not listed so I have no basis to confirm that the images are exactly the same. RedWolf 06:57, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)
The "all bits the same" is an example, the wording only indicates that images need be "a redundant ... copy of something else on Wikipedia". In this case, two other better and more recent screenshots make my old one redundant. It is not being used on any page, and hasn't been for some time.
Darrien 07:42, 2005 Feb 5 (UTC)
I did place it on Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion so it will be deleted in a week anyways, unless someone objects. Feel free to add your comments to that page. If others agree, then I will include it in my decision on future sd candidates. According to what I understand, images that are exactly the same but in different image formats, also do not qualify for speedy deletion. RedWolf 07:46, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)

London categories

Please don't change the names of any more London categories unless you are prepared to do considerably more of the spadework of moving articles than you have done for London districts. There are 380 articles to transfer in this case! All for the sake of a microscope and debatable semantic "improvement". I've put a great deal of effort into the London menu, but I don't exactly relish making another 380 edits just now. Isn't it possible for an administrator to change a category name? By the way, Districts of London, would be better British English than Districts in London which sounds awkward to my ear. Philip 23:26, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I've now had a look at the discussion. I do not accept that a consensus was reached for a change. Furthermore, all of the votes for the name you have chosen came from non-British voters who were presumably unaware of correct British English usage. I don't think it is acceptable for North Americans to rename British categories with titles which appear semi-literate to users of British English. I am therefore going to empty your new category. If you can change the existing one to Districts of London, please go ahead, but please don't just create a new category unless you are prepared to transfer the 381 articles yourself. Philip 23:47, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I created that category with the intent of moving them with my bot. However, a MediaWiki software update within the past day has disabled my bot for now so I was not able to proceed with the move. I wasn't about to do nearly 400 moves manually. I of course saw the discussion but overall the consensus was to rename. The category was placed on cfd on December 22 and consensus was reached well after the normal 7 day period. The renaming is to try and follow a standardized naming convention. I don't know why you are complaining to me when you should be making your case on CFD. RedWolf 00:09, Feb 6, 2005 (UTC)
There was most certainly not a consensus as to what to rename the category, and the transfer of this listing to the section marked "The following easily passsed or otherwise had no opposition" was illegitimate. The voting was as follows:
No change - 1 vote
In agreement that the existing capitalisation is inappropriate, but no preference for a new name stated - 2 votes (these might be taken to be votes for "London districts", but certainly not for "Districts in London")
Preference for Districts of- 2 votes (to which I add mine, making 3 votes)
London districts - 1 vote
Districts in London - 1 vote
Therefore you implemented a change which had 14.7% support (now 12.5% support). How can you justify that? Despite my preference for "Districts of" it seems to me that the voting does not actually authorise any change at all. Philip 03:09, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Districts in London had 3 written plus implicitly 4th with my creation of the category. I don't even see your name on CFD for this category. As far as my current involvement in renaming, this is on hold until my bot is able to make changes again on Wikipedia. I recommend that you make your objections known on CFD and not here before other bots continue the renaming. RedWolf 03:50, Feb 6, 2005 (UTC)
That is not true and even if it was, it would still not be a majority, never mind amounting to the proposal having "easily passed" or faced no opposition, which are the proper criteria for inclusion in the section of the votes for deletion page in which it was placed. The British English issue would still apply too. I have made my vote today, so it is valid if yours is. Your action in implementing a change which does not have democratic backing is a clear breach of policy. I had hoped that you were simply acting on someone else's removal of the category to the "votes decided" section, but now it seems that you consider that you are entitled to override the outcome of a vote. I have noted the situation on the categories for deletion page. I am very disappointed that an administrator should put the defence of his own actions before the correct implementation of Wikipedia policy.Philip 04:55, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Are you looking at the same page I am? I'm looking at Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:London_Districts. RedWolf 06:29, Feb 6, 2005 (UTC)

Tagging images moved to Commons

Ah... Thanks for the explanation. I'll try to remember that. I believe that I acquired a nasty habit of adding a "speedy" everywhere, from the pl-Wiki where we still don't have a firm policy on what is and what is not a speedy deletion candidate. I have been thinking of writing a draft of the rules based on what we have here on en-Wiki for some time now, though. Maybe this "incident" will motivate me. ;) Cheers, TOR 11:58, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Moving images from Wikipedia to Wikimedia Commons

Hi. I'm a little confused about how to correctly move images from here to the Commons, without losing information or violating the GFDL. I've started a discussion at Talk:Wikimedia Commons#Moving images to the Commons, and your input would be appreciated. – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 19:52, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC)

WP:AN

Sorry, didn't grok your comment about "I really don't think this comment applies to this topic." Did you mean that you thought I had miscategorized that "Improper speedy deletion" entry? I was thinking that only points of some policy interest, etc were for "General", which is why I moved it to /Incidents. (I turned the old section header into a bolded text to keep the size of the TOC for the main board page down.) Noel (talk) 23:58, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Image:ArgyleStreetHalifax

HI,

you mentioned that Image:ArgyleStreetHalifax.jpg was invalid... however, it appears perfectly well to me, so I'm not sure what I should do. This image is also on Commons, in case that helps. Peregrine981 11:11, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)

It was Image:ArgyleSteetHalifax.jpg (note missing "r"). RedWolf 01:00, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)

Database dump

And verily, there was a new one (http://download.wikimedia.org/). If you're still up for untagged image games... You might want to check out the comments here --Tagishsimon (talk)

There seems to be a problem with the English db dump. It's not listed but I figured out the name and downloaded it anyways. Uncompression fails. RedWolf 04:18, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)

Freedom Force

Thank you for your edits. I seldom remember to edit things except at work, which is obviously a bad time to be looking up information on a game. *wry grin* Probably not so good to be using work resources to update Wikipedia either, but that's another problem. Out of curiousity, are you primarily paraphrasing existing information on the characters, or are you kind of freehanding it? -Fuzzy 04:27, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hi. You will have to be more specific. I vaguely recall editing some FF article but it was probably a link edit, a category change or something minor. Other than that, I don't plan on assisting directly with any content on that subject. RedWolf 04:58, Feb 13, 2005 (UTC)
My apologies. The entry was Freedom Force (computer game) and looking at it again, you'd made the change before the latest one, changing the category, that change being made by CanisRufus, your bot alter ego, I believe. The changes I was referring to were made by an IP address. And the plot thickens... Feel free to delete this conversation thread afterwards, as it essentially serves no purpose. -Fuzzy 06:12, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Mt Damavand image and others

The image is fairuse, merely because I know the photographer, and I wish his name to be given credit for. I'm doing this because I dont want other websites to take these images, and claim copyrights for them, without even using the photographer's name, which seems to be the case already. Afshain Bakhtiari works for Iran's Cultural Heritage Organzation, an official Iranian government organization that publishes such images for publicity purposes. I have done photography for them as well, and I can tell you that they are not concerned with Copyright issues, especially for non-proprietary reasons, like this Encyclopedia. They only care about the dissemination of Iran's proper image, especially outside Iran's borders.

I also saw copies of this picture on the web. However, Afshin is the photographer of this picture, and therefore all other images you see on the web are copies of this. I scanned this particular image from a hard copy myself that I have at my resource. That is why the colors seem a bit sharper than those on the web.

In fact, The Iranian Cultural Heritage Organization gives you these images for free, if they know you will use them for academic purposes. Which I gather this is. Isnt it?--Zereshk 20:46, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

South Shetland stubs

Hi RedWolf - just a quick note to say that there is a separate Antarctica-geo-stub template for use with subantarctic islands, if you're planning to make more South Shetland articles! Grutness|hello? Missing image
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09:06, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Calcutta -> Kolkata name change

Hi there. I noticed you voted in the Wikipedia:Naming policy poll to keep the Wikipedia policy of naming an article with the most familiar English name. You may not be aware that another attempt has begun to rename the Calcutta article to Kolkata, which is blatantly not the most common name of the city, whether it's official or not. If you want to vote on the issue you can do so at Talk:Calcutta. Cheers. -- Necrothesp 13:28, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Norman L. Bowen

Hi - when I did the re-write on the page I wasn't sure of the correct procedure for the copyvio thing. Hopefully I didn't mess things up with the re-write. Vsmith 03:56, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hi. If re-writing a copyvio, please use the temporary page as indicated in the copyvio text. Updating the original article text causes more work for administrators because the copyvio must still be deleted from the article's history. By using the Temp page for the re-write, the original article with the copyvio in it's history can be deleted and the Temp re-write can replace it. In that way, no copyvio in the history. It just makes life easier for admins if the copyvio process is followed as explained. Nothing really get messed up but the page history doesn't accurately reflect the article's edit history. That's why I copied it to the talk page before deleting it. RedWolf 04:08, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, next time I'll try reading the directions. Sorry 'bout the extra hassle. Vsmith 04:24, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The Brier

FWIW, we're having a discussion on the article naming of the Tim Hortons Brier, where you left a note about the naming of the article. 132.205.15.43 05:40, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, I've added my 2 cents on the subject. RedWolf 06:02, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)

How can I then get rid of images in en: that should be on Commons

You said for Image:Finnmark kart.png: Images moved to Commons cannot be speedy deleted. I have uploaded an improved version of this image (and 18 related images) to the commons. Do I need to go through the ifd process for these? Sounds a wee bit silly, if you ask me. After all, I uploaded these myself.

We may soon be in the situation where we will have around 100 coats of arms for Municipalities of Norway which will be obsoleted by better images on the commons. Does all of there 100 images need to go through ifd? -- Egil 07:24, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

just list them all together on ifd with one discription of why they are obsolete and let them be deleted if noone objects. the problem we had was people were copying images to commons and speedying them here and we were losing source information in the process. Plugwash 09:20, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Fair enough, I'll do that (when that time arrives). I might add that it is the images in the commons that has the proper source information. Thanks. -- Egil 09:38, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Fwolinseal.gif

Thanks for pointing out to me that that image is going to be deleted. I thought it had already been deleted, actually. It's redundant to the one used in the Olin College article, and the image actually used is properly taged (it's fair use as a logo). --L33tminion | (talk) 17:52, Mar 14, 2005 (UTC)

Reply

No, my computer has an error, so I'm not aware of what's happening. I intended to fix it as an disambig, and I've fixed it already.

Mr Tan 10:32, Mar 14 2005 (UTC)

Category:Aboriginal peoples in Quebec

Hello, I've responded to your question to me about the proposed move of Category:Native peoples of Quebec to Category:Aboriginal peoples in Quebec on Categories for deletion. It's unclear to me what the timetable for the approval of this move is. The old category is empty after depopulation by another user before the name change was deemed required. Once it has been moved or a new category created it can be repopulated. What steps remain for the Category to be moved by an administrator? Thanks, Kurieeto 19:33, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

Hi. To move a category, one creates a category by the new name and then changes the category of the articles in the old category to the new one. The move of articles is typically done by bots but can be done manually as well. Go ahead and create the new category yourself and populate it. There is normally at least a 7 day waiting period before the request is acted upon. Since the request was made March 10, it can now be processed. RedWolf 03:03, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)

Image:Lul-logo.png

If you look at point 7 of WP:CSD#General, you'll notice that I was correct in putting it up for speedy deletion. "Any page which is requested for deletion by the original author, provided the author reasonably explains that it was created by mistake, and the page was edited only by its author." --BesigedB (talk) 12:34, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Okay, you are correct. I was doing a whole bunch of CSD cleanup and since you mentioned that the image was on Commons, I just changed the request to IFD and didn't check the page history that time. RedWolf 17:18, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)

GIF version of PNG not a speedy deletion candidate?

Hi RedWolf. I noticed you didn't think Image:C-moe.gif was a candidate for speedy deletion. I guess it depends on how you interpret "all bits the same" at Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#Images/Media. I wonder if it would be fair to change it to "all pixels the same". I've asked at Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Image criterion. Cheers, dbenbenn | talk 21:02, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Technically "all the bits are the same" is not true when different image formats are involved. While most images are going to appear pretty much the same when converted, all things being equal, sometimes a conversion to another format can look worse. So, not a clear cut case for SD. RedWolf 23:18, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)
with a properly done conversion from gif-png all bits of the image and of its pallette will be IDENTICAL. What other bits were you thinking might be of significance? (conversions involving lossy formats are a very different issue)Plugwash 00:33, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I am referring to the literal meaning of "all bits not the same". JPEG, GIF formats are not identical to PNG, regardless of whether they may appear visually identical. RedWolf 09:02, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

Korean Ceramics vs Pottery

I noticed you changed a category on the Korean Pottery page from Korean Ceramics to Pottery. This has been a subject of discussion with the Korean contributors who are apparently just beginning a long series of articles on clay products and history. They seem to strenuously object to the word pottery being applied to any clay object other than wheel produced work. And they insist that ceramics is the only term for Korean ware.

Another contributor and I have been writing them notes, trying to convince them that we are not vandalizing their work by changing the titles and categories to help people find their emerging articles. If you would look at the Pottery discussion, the Korean Pottery discussion and the Korean user's discussion pages( POofYS ), you will get a whiff of this apparent cultural misunderstanding. I've tried to assure them that once they get their articles into Wiki - we'll construct a clay oriented tree which will deal with some/all of their concerns. In the meantime -- I am going to add their Korean Ceramics category back and keep the Pottery one as well. Anything you can do to smooth these fussy waters would be good - as we would benefit from good Korean information on this subject. Comments welcome. WBardwin 07:31, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. The Korean people (junior government functionaries, I think) will strenuously object when they come back -- usually at several day intervals. I think they might be responsible for a number of other sketchy Korean articles as well. I'm relatively new and I don't check the deletion questions. And I'm afraid they don't understand Wiki enough to even know there is a voting mechanism. If we can keep it for them, I think it would be better in the long run. If we can't, you might write them a note trying to explain. Their site is POofYS. WBardwin 07:41, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Well, I'm not going to create it again myself. If it does get created again, the correct name would be Category:Ceramics of Korea to follow convention of avoiding the adjective form which causes issues. RedWolf 07:49, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

Testttttttttttt

Can you delate this;Testttttttttttt. I was just testing my written. User:Albanau

Deletion pending due to block compressed revisions. RedWolf 08:45, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

Red Wolf, wait up: this sneaky little rat Albanau redirected the Origin of Albanians article to this blank page, and now the blank page is being deleted. The article Origin of Albanians was a legitimate article. Decius 08:53, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

This is vandalism of the First Order, and this calls for User:Albanau to be banned. Decius 08:54, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

See the bottom of User talk: Cyrius also, where Albanau's previous actions are discussed. Decius 08:56, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)


(added after edit conflict) Hi RedWolf. I noticed that Testttttttttttt had a significant history; the version before Albanau's edits [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Testttttttttttt&oldid=11567765) looks like a fully-developed article. It looks to me like this article was at Origin of Albanians; then at Albanau moved it to Testttttttttttttt ((cur) (last) 08:28, 27 Mar 2005 Albanau (Origin of Albanians moved to Testttttttttttttt)) which he then moved to Testttttttttttt ((cur) (last) 08:29, 27 Mar 2005 Albanau (Testttttttttttttt moved to Testttttttttttt)). I reverted it to the last version with content and will now move it back. I'm a new administrator so please tell me if I have this wrong. Thanks! — Knowledge Seeker 09:02, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

You are 100% right Seeker of Knowledge, and furthermore User:Albanau deliberately did this in order to illegally delete a Wikipedia article that upset his nationalistic fantasies. The article was legitimate, created by User:Bogdangiusca, and fully provided with references for each point. User:Albanau is to be banned from Wikipedia immediately, and this is not his first act of vandalism. Decius 09:09, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I have to agree with all of this. Albanau's actions are vandalism, pure and simple. RickK 09:13, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the updates. I did find it strange that I got the block compressed revisions error on an article that was supposedly just created. The vandalism instigated by User:Albanau warrants at least a block. I'm not familiar with any other vandalism he/she may have done but if this is not the first case, then a ban may be in order. He caught me while I was in the middle of a mass categories cleanup and I kept getting the new messages alert after everything I did (does a null edit cause that?) and it was getting annoying. RedWolf 09:16, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

Category:Places in Hong Kong

I would like to know why category:Places in Hong Kong was tagged (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Places_in_Hong_Kong&oldid=11685513&diff=prev) with CFD? This category is equivalent to neighbourhoods. The term neighbourhoods is unheard in Hong Kong. — Instantnood 12:36, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

Its parent is currently listed on CFD and the subcats were nominated as well but weren't tagged according to procedure. RedWolf 01:33, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)

Titus (mountain)

I added this stub during my reading about bivouac. It really needs help, but there is so much skiing marketing and suchlike, I'm not even sure if that's the right mountain mentioned in 1877 (or whatever year the article lists). Are you able to give this article some help? Thanks Avriette 21:22, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I have searched in the past for this mountain but so far haven't found anything definitive that confirms what the 1911 EB claimed. I'm skeptical that it would be this mountain, primarily because it's in North America and not Europe or Asia. RedWolf 05:07, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

Jason Falkner

I see you made a change to the Jason Falkner page, are you a fan? Apologies if this is the wrong place for a question of this nature.

Not a fan. I just disambiguated rock is all. RedWolf 17:16, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)

Where did the discussion go?

Notice you removed the discussions over Category:Culture of mainland China from the Cfd. For one, it seems too premature to do so. And for another, the discussion just dissappeared! ;) Was there a mistake somewhere?--Huaiwei 12:36, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I just moved the discussions to Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/unresolved China. Currently, everything related to the China naming conventions just ends up being unresolved after weeks on CFD as everyone just re-votes the same as they did for the other China related categories. I'm going to be moving China related categories listed on CFD to there until the naming conventions issue is finally resolved. I wish people would stop listing China related categories until the naming issue is resolved. I'm not involved in the debate and I have no desire to be so entwined. RedWolf 05:04, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)
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