User talk:Quill

Please Note: I like to see conversation all in one place, so will usually respond here.

Photo alignment

Check out Wikipedia:Picture_tutorial. That should help. If you happen to want to display an image without the box around it and with a caption, the Dog article does that with a couple of photos and so looking at the code for that is the best suggestion I have, since that's not covered in the tutorial. Elf | Talk 20:48, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Response to response

Har har, caught me not signing my name. Of course, ahem, er, uh, yes, I did it deLIBerately. Yes. Of course.

There's not really an easy way to capture "pages I go to a lot" or "my useful links". I started collecting such things on my user page, then decided that just saving them as bookmarks in my usual browser bookmark collection was much easier. Elf | Talk 18:13, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

You could also make a sub-page if you don't want to clutter up your user page. User:Quill/links would lead to a page you could use (or use any similar link to make a sub-page of that name). Putting a link to your sub-page on your user page would make it easily found without overloading you page too much (My own list is directly on my user page at the moment - but I would split it off if it got too big).

Using a sub-page also allows to you use the "Related Changes" link in the side bar - that shows you the changes to any page on your list of links. Just another option for you :) -- sannse (talk) 18:25, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Joy to the World

Thank you for fixing the loose ends in "Joy to the World"! I've despaired of ever getting resolution on them. ☺ — Jeff Q 10:12, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Seaside resort

Thanks for your kind note. Do you know any more about the subject, particularly internationally? I created it out of frustration that no-one else had, not any great knowledge of the subject! Warofdreams 19:33, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Chien de berger islandais

Halló Quill, Thanks for your answer. You mention that you are familiar with French. Regarding my work on Icelandic Sheepdogs and the names in different languages I want to let here some spellings I found on the web.
Note: The order of the following links I included is arbitrary.
- Chien de berger islandais Standard FCI n° 289 (http://www.milouchouchou.com/fiche_race.php?alpha=289)
- Chien D'Islande ou berger islandais (http://users.skynet.be/loupsdelavesdre/races/descrip/C/chien-islande.htm)
- Islenkur Fjárhundur (289) (Chien de berger islandais) - Standard FCI N°289 / 18. 11. 2002 / F (http://www.fci.be/uploaded_files/289f02_fr.DOC) .doc file
- Berger Islandais (http://www.chiens-des-champs.com/races%20de%20chiens5.html)
- Chien d'islande (http://www.sknh.ch/hunde-deutsch/islandhund.htm)
- Chien de berger d'islande (http://www.sknh.ch/hunde-franz/F_wachhuetehunde.htm)
In what order would you mention these names and for wich you would prefere another spelling? Do you know others?
You may answer here or send me an e-mail. You can find my address at the website of our dogs (http://easy.go.is/gangleri/hundarnir/). Thanks in advance! Regards Gangleri 01:41, 2004 Sep 24 (UTC)

Forgot to mention somthing about your interest in rare breeds: Please search google for +"rare breed" +"Icelandic sheepdog". Regards Gangleri 02:19, 2004 Sep 24 (UTC)

Hello there! My understanding is that we're not putting down every single name in every single language in the breed tables--we'd be at it forever. The Dog project is still very much a work-in-progress, so use your discretion.

The conventions we use thus far are to use the name and breed standard given by the FCI or the national breed council or breed club if not nationally recognized. My own habit is to put down the FCI name, the most common nicknames (if there are a lot I work them into the body of the article rather than listing every single one in the breed table) and if it's a rare breed from a nation that speaks a language other than English, the name of the dog in that language. You'll notice from the project talk pages that there are exceptions to everything and some things are problematic.

Usually, when we run into problems, we pose questions at the Talk pages and ask others to respond, then go with a consensus. It's worked really well thus far; it's a good group.

In this case (and I haven't looked up any links; just going on what you've typed above) it looks to me as though Chien de Berger Islandais is the formal name, Islandic Sheepdog in English and Islenkur Fjárhundur in Islandic. I would use those three. Cross reference Islandic Sheepdog and Chien de Berger Islandais in the List of dog breeds. You might also want to add them to the list in the herding dogs article. Ask Sannse whether the main article should be at Islandic Sheepdog or Chien de Berger Islandais. I would place it at Islandic Sheepdog unless there's a good reason not to.

Thanks for those links; I'll be looking this breed up as soon as I have a free moment!

Did that help?

Quill 01:24, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thanks Quill for your answer and pardon me that I did not respond earlier. It was realy hard to get familiar with such a large project as Wikipedia. I posted some ideas at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Dog breeds#is: List of dog breeds and would be happy to know your opinion. Regards Gangleri 03:35, 2004 Nov 2 (UTC)

Dear Quill, User:Gangleri/tests/list (maintenance) IMSoP is showing what I liked to have. See the description at our project talk page. Regards Gangleri 01:47, 2004 Nov 9 (UTC)

Dance!

Quill, I just saw your notes on the Aerial page. My I just encourage you to start making any changes you see fit, and on any of the Ballroom dance articles. I've been trying to organize everything and help the section with the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dance, which I invite you to join, but I just don't know enough to do major work yet. Good Editing! Lyellin 02:42, Sep 24, 2004 (UTC)

I'd love to help, buddy, but I seem to be always pressed for time! I'm pretty involved with the Dog Project.

Still, I'll do what I can. Thanks for the invite! Quill 00:59, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I understand that- I have a nice long To Do list. Just figured I'd make sure you know it's out there, and we're trying ;) Lyellin

Thanks for reminding me to change that- it's Junior now. *laughs* trouble on Ballroom dancing? Mikkalai? if any trouble arises... I'm a pretty neutral observer, just because I have no attachment, if you need someone around. Lyellin 01:43, Sep 25, 2004 (UTC)

White Wedding

It was intended to be humerous! It needed something on that page. I wandered out of my usual territory for once - safer in architecture! Regards Giano 09:22, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Ha! Well, I wandered into architecture not so long ago, where I'm NOT safe, so we're even. I thought your comments were great, actually! Quill 09:02, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Invite

I'm posting this to invite you to participate in WP:LCOTW , a project you may be interested in. Please consider nominating and/or voting for a suitable article there. Filiocht 12:37, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC)

Dog Project

Hi Gangleri!

I'm going to agree with the others about not having detail in the list of dog breeds. Confusing. I also would stay away from trying to include every single name in every foreign language, as this is the English Wikipedia.

If you want to include the FCI number and the breed's name in the language of its country of origin and/or development in the Breed Table at the article, that would work for me.

Remember before you do too much work setting things up, that it's very hard to keep up with all the maintenance in any case, never mind if info has to be updated in more than one place.

Quill 08:04, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Dear Quill, Thank you for the answer. Once a template is made the different lists as User:Gangleri/tests/list, User:Gangleri/tests/list (maintenance) and User:Gangleri/tests/list (maintenance) IMSoP can exist together, only User:Gangleri/tests/list (template) has to be updated.

I would be hapy to know a better way how to comunicate with each oter and how the project can be coordinated. It is not a database and we are all volunteers. Regards Gangleri 04:46, 2004 Nov 10 (UTC)

WP:LCOTW

Template:CurrentLCOTW

Filiocht 10:42, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC)

Polly Wolly...

‘Polllie-woli-doodle-odla’ Day!
I did a spit-take on that one. Now my monitor is covered with green tea! Thanks for the laugh. :-) The Dogfather 03:21, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

RE: Our Gang

No problem. It's one of my favorite movie series. --b. Touch 00:31, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Re: The Professionals

Yuo can cut it up if you like. Personally I hate three line articles, so I would add the unfair proviso - only cut it up if you can substantially expand the slivers created. TwoOneTwo 11:50, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Ouch! But that's the beauty of Wikipedia--someone's going to expand a three-liner eventually.... I'll revisit this in the New Year--thanks for replying!Quill 20:49, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Great House

Hi, I have just put a link from your Great house to The English country house, I actually wrote a page called Country house but someone came along with plans for a grand rewrite, pulled the page to pieces and never put it back together properly, perhaps if you are interested in the subject you might like to have a go, and add some of your valuable information there, it certainly needs it! Giano 09:48, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I visting The English country house and did a bit of c.e. and expanding; you also inspired me to expand on great house. I'll keep working on all. Cheers Quill 22:09, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hi Quill - I can understand why you removed the Buildings and structures stub from Great house - but I've put it back. Although a Great house is largely defined by the staff involved (and if there were a stub for that it would get that template as well), it is also definitely a stub relating to a kind of building, in exactly the same way as Convention center or Faux Chateau, say, are articles about particular types of building defined by their use, history, or connotations rather than by any sort of architectural standard. It certainly needs some kind of specialty stub - especially since it isn't categorised anywhere. Grutness|^hello? Missing image
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08:31, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Suffixes

Hello. I should explain that I removed the M.D. largely because it's not actually a doctorate (at least not in this country, and I thought not in the States either); rather, as standing for ‘Medical Doctor’ it denotes a courtesy title given to physicians. I didn't know what ‘J.D.’ meant, so I played safe by adding a term that I knew to stand for a doctorate.

As regards ’esq.’ — I should have been more careful, though I did look at the Wikipedia article esquire, which says that in the U.S. it's used as a courtesy suffix for attorneys. Should that be changed to reflect their having to have passed State bar exams (or is that all of them)? Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 23:08, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ah, but with regard to putting full stops after abbreviations, I do strongly disagree. The full stop indicates that a term has been cut at that point (as in St. for Street); when the term has been abbreviated differently, for example by removing letters from the middle, then no full stop should be added (as in St for Saint). It seems to me that the distinction, aside from being well established, is both simple and informative. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 23:16, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about ‘spelt’ — it was semi-automatic (like correcting ‘kneeled’ to ‘knelt’), but of course unnecessary and uncalled-for. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 23:28, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I do so love it when people make intelligent edits, whether or not I agree with them.

MD and JD are doctorates in the US, both in New Latin. I thought your point was well taken, however, so I added 'professional doctorates' or some such for lack of anything else to call them.

Esq. is correctly an attorney who has passed a bar exam, at least in all the states I know. The abbreviation is in somewhat fluid use because people don't necessary know that a person with a juris doctor who hasn't passed the bar exam is Mr. So-and-so. Of course, JD also stands for juvenile delinquent, but....

I think the use of Esq. is further muddied by its social use, so I'm not sure what to do about the esquire article. I think I'll just BE BOLD; I'm sure someone will come along with a scathing correction if I'm wrong.

As to that period thing, well, yes...and no. The use of Mr., Sr., etc. is certainly well-established in the US, and since this article speaks to etiquette I'm inclined to leave the full stops in. I can't really speak to the St. as opposed to St; you're not alone in your understanding but I think in many places people would be flabbergasted.

I made another 'revert'; we don't change Brit->Amer or vice versa unless it's germane to the topic. Lots of fights about it; I'm with the folks who say leave it as the author wrote it unless the change is essential.

Finally--you and I are the only two persons left on earth who care about such things, anyway....

Quill 23:40, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The problem is (and I suspect that this works both ways) that I'm often not sure whether a usage is genuinely U.S. English or only a commonly-made U.S. mistake. For example, I've sometimes been told that to use 'disinterested' to mean 'uninterested' and 'alternate' to mean 'alternative' is now standard U.S. English, but American colleagues tell me that that's not the case — that it's only the (vast mass of the) sub-literate who make those mistakes. (I once received an irate e-mail from someone who strongly objected to my claim that philosophy should be done disinterestedly and dispassionately...). Similarly, I'd not realised that 'Mr.', 'Dr.', etc., were accepted U.S. usage.

The '-ize'/'-ise' question throws up similar problems. I use '-ise' without exception, but that's just a personal preference (and one that's deprecated by Fowler, if I remember correctly); I shouldn't dream of correcting most uses of '-ize', whether in U.S. or in British English. On the other hand, I do correct 'surprize', 'advertize', 'exercize', 'analyze', etc., on the assumption that they're wrong on both sides of the Atlantic (I mean, how could one get 'analyze' from 'analysis'?). And yet there's always a sneaking doubt, with which reference books don't help (either because they don't mention certain examples, or because they disagree with each other).

And don't get me started on 'box set'; who on Earth would pay good money for a set of boxes? Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 11:40, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Just did a spit-take on 'box set'; thanks for the chuckle.

You're perfectly right on all counts. Unlike the French, English speakers don't have a watchdog committee caring for our language, which has made it extremely great and extremely frustrating.

'Standard American English' is a dynamic. When does incorrect usage become "standard"? If the great unwashed all say it, spell it, use it...is it now "standard"? Who gives the imprimatur? Your educated friends are right about 'disinterested', for example; as far as I know it means 'impartial', but one can make a case for its having meant 'not interested' originally, according to the good folks at Merriam-Webster. However, those who use 'disinterested' to mean 'not interested' today by and large are ignorant of its history and simply making a mistake. On the other hand, 'flammable' is standard usage; I think I'm one of very few people who ever use the word 'inflammable' and that is because I am stubborn.

You're also correct to question whether something is 'standard' or simply incorrect American usage, particularly with regard to borrowings from British English (and we still need to come up with a better way to say that). "Theatre" is standard in American English, but "centre" is not. "Theater", however, is perfectly correct--someone explain this to me. Pronunciation is in flux as well. "Aunt" and "ant" sound the same in American English, but it has become the fashion to distinguish "Aunt" by pronouncing it in something like the British manner (sorry, I can't write phonetically), whereas "can't" and "shan't" (for the .00001% who still use "shall not") both rhyme with "ant".

I was taught to write "Charles' cat" (by British teachers, by the way) but in American schools and universities today one will be (you will be) marked up or down for "Charles' cat" OR for "Charles's cat" depending on your professor's preference.

I don't think that those of us who were born after 1960 or so can help being part of "the (vast mass of the) sub-literate". Our brains cannot help but accept and repeat what we read in print, what we hear on the news, what we hear in the street (her name wasn't "Princess Diana", damn it!!) Our educators are not helping: I have a friend, a brilliant man, and one born well before 1960, who is an educator, who told me that he does not use the subjunctive in English. I begged his pardon, and he repeated it. I have been publicly mocked for using the verb 'to neaten' (an entire roomful of New Yorkers swore there was no such word), for saying "...between (name) and me..." and for saying "I feel bad". What's a person to do?

Quill 22:51, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I'm just going to bed — I'll respond some time tomorrow. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 23:54, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Very peculiarly I'm engaged in a similar conversation, completely coincidentally, at MarkSweep's page; you might like to join in there.

British English I'll stick to this term for the moment, as the only alternative I've seen is 'Britlish'. Enough said. (This may be an urban legend, but in a recent survey, a surprising percentage of College-educated Americans didn't know that English was the language spoken in England. On the other hand, in one episode of the Simpsons, schoolboy Homer skipped an English class on the grounds that he was never going to go to England.)

I had no idea that 'theatre' was common in U.S. English (I'll not try to make use of that fact on Wikipedia pages), but I had noticed odd inconsistencies, such as 'practice/practise' and 'defence'; it seems to me (though I might be wrong, given what we've been discussing) that while U.S. English insists on spelling words like 'defence' with an 's', it makes an exception in the case of 'practice', to the extent of spelling the verb 'practise' with a 'c'. Of course, British English is full of inconsistencies of that sort, but the excuse is that they're the result of centuries of slow and undirected change.

While we're in grumpy-old-men mode, I'll just add a personal bugbear: 'How are you?' — 'I'm good.' If I wanted to know about people's moral status I'd ask them. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:38, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

'Practice' is an exception; noun and verb usually spelled with a 'c', but 's' is also correct. Isn't that TV show called The Practice? At any rate, so it goes.

I think that probably is urban legend, but funny.

I discussed my (many) pet peeves with Elf; it's probably on the history here somewhere. She's a good person to query on spelling/grammar/usage questions, even if she does continually change all my 'whichs' to 'thats', but that's another story....

Ah yes, the famous New York 'How are you?' — 'I'm good.' which is working its insidious way around the globe. In all fairness, you might have been asking about their sexual prowess; they have had the decency to answer instead of telling you to mind your own business....;)

Quill 21:19, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

In British English, the noun is 'practice' and the verb is 'practise'; I'd understood (but here again I seem to be wrong) that they were both 'practice' in U.S. English.

I wouldn't change all 'whiches' to 'thats' — only the ones that should need changing... I'll have to look Elf up (yes, a dangling participle, I know).

Thanks for your comment on my Talk page. I thought of adding a moad about Googling, but worries that I was already going on too long. I might yet change my mind.

You've heard, I suppose, the story told (as gospel truth) of various people at various Oxford Colleges, which ends with a female American visitor opening her door to a male undergraduate wearing only a towel: "Sorry, but the porter asked me to come and knock you up." Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 22:24, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Re: Cuba Gooding, Jr.

Oops, I'm sorry. I won't make that mistake again. The Cuba Gooding, Jr. page already existed as a redirect, though: what would I do in that case? --b. Touch 21:40, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, pardner! Quill 21:47, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, just saw that you added something. I'm not exactly sure what you did. Did you get rid of the old Cuba Gooding Jr. Was there no Cuba Gooding, Sr.? I just noticed because the histories of the pages were gone, and I distincly remember making edits in both, which is why they were on my watchlist. Quill 21:51, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I think I see what you did and it's fine. The only mistake is that you should have also checked WHAT LINKS HERE, which would have should you a link to the disambig page, but I just correct it. Cheers. Quill 21:58, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Okay, This is what happened:

I moved the info at Cuba Gooding Jr. to Cuba Gooding, Jr.. The Cuba Gooding, Jr. page already existed as a redirect, so I didn't know what else to do.
I made a page for Cuba Gooding, Sr., not knowing he had a page already at Cuba Gooding. I navagated to Cuba Gooding (which I didn't think existed because he should have been linked in the Cuba Gooding Jr. article) with the intentions of making it a redirect for both of them, found out someone had made a stub (with almost the exact same text as the one I made), so I just copy/pasted the information not already in the Cuba Gooding, Sr. article there and made a redirect.

What I will do is move Cuba Gooding, Jr. back to Cuba Gooding Jr. (because there's two years' worth of history) and see if I can get a mod to delete Cuba Gooding, Jr. so that I can recreated by doing a page move.

Confused yet? LOL. But I'm sorry about not checking for the preexisting Gooding, Sr. page: I was sort of on autopilot. I was trying to do as many edits as possible and needed before running off to the barbershop. At one point, I had as many Firefox tabs open as allowed by my screen resolution (1240 x 960). --b. Touch 23:19, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Oy! Actually, I think your first impulse was a good one, as Cuba Gooding, Jr. is the correct styling. Can you get a moderator to effect that move, keeping the history?Quill 03:48, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I'll try for it. Shouldn't be too difficult. --b. Touch 20:48, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The return of Our Gang

I've renominated the article...but for some reason, only one person has voted! :( --b. Touch 22:09, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sorry--just spent about an hour proofreading and my browser froze before I 'saved'. I'll try again later. Quill 22:26, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Like a spell/grammar check? Let me take care of that now. --b. Touch 23:42, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the copyedit. But no one seems to have voted yet! What's going on? --b. Touch 14:43, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Not sure--maybe no one's paying attention to the FAC list? It's not where I'm most active, so I couldn't say for sure. Quill 08:11, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Labs

Thanks; you rock! I'm in the mode mostly of trying to catch vandalism and basic newbie stuff that needs a little cleanup and not getting much beyond that most of the time. Sigh. Elf | Talk 23:49, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

No problema: I'll try to keep an eye on that TO DO list in my spare time--spare time? Chortle, chortle. Quill 08:13, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Stable master

thanks for vote of confidence. Elf laughed. Elf finds no "stablemaster" in Websters or OED or in any of a squillion online dictionaries. However, it is apparently one valuable word in the Sumo world (http://www.japantimes.com/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nn20040129a2.htm). It does show up in searches as another frillion brand names. But I suspect that in real life it's probably just "stable master". But elf don't know nuthin' about no horses. Elf | Talk 00:30, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Toshiro Mifune Page

I have noticed your name on the Mifune discussion page and, thus, wanted to pass this note on to you. I have made some changes to the info that the Venerable Bede recently added to bring it more into line with the things that I have learned about his movies and life from Donald Richie and Stuart Galbraith IV, as well as other interviews I've read over the years. I hope that this isn't too upsetting for him as I know how cherished the info one knows is, until new info comes along and is learned. I've also read your talks with him about how Mifune broke into acting. Pages 68 and 69 of Galbraith's book explain that Mifune always perpetuated the wrong line myth, but in fact he was so desperate for work that, since the camera jobs had all been filled, he tried the acting session. Although there is a bit more involved in it, the rest of the Bede's description of how that went is mostly correct. I am, also, fairly new to Wikipedia and, so, am trying to head off (or not create) any conflict by talking to you as soon as possible. If you are the wrong person to be expressing this with I offer my apologies and wonder if you could let me know who I should contact. Thanks for your time. MarnetteD | Talk 17:54, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. How nice of you to consider everyone's feelings. I know next to nothing about Mifune's life, so I wasn't attempting to say either way, just pointing out incongruity. I don't know how Venerable Bede will take your edits, which I haven't yet read, BTW, but perhaps a little note on the Mifune TALK page (if you haven't already)? Quill 21:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Bede Isn't Unhappy

Venerable Bede isn't unhappy. Yay! Third person is so much fun! A few pointers, MarnetteD : A) If I were so concerned about people changing what I put into articles I wouldn't be here at wikipedia, right? (Quill has to point out that this is not necessarily true; Quill cannot resist.) B) The small problem I have stems not from your edits, but from one of your sources: As I mentioned on the talk page for Mifune, Galbraith's book is horrible. C) Regarding the "wrong line" story ~ IMHO, Galbraith doesn't provide enough evidence to disprove the "official" story, ergo the "wrong line" scenario shall stand in the general article.

Also, MarnetteD, a bit of advice: It is proper internet etiquette to notify someone if you are speaking about them to another person.

And welcome to wikipedia! :)--Venerable Bede 02:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hmm..."Venerable Bede" seems to have left a note for MarnetteD on Quill's TALK page. Quill never talks about people behind peoples' backs (well, oh-tay, almost never. In this case, Quill had already contacted Venerable Bede about the Mifune article and only mentioned Venerable Bede's name en passant in reponse to query on Quill's page. Quill is glad Bede is not unhappy and will inform Bede that Quill now knows contents of message intentended for Marnette. Quill hopes Marnett is not unhappy now.... Quill 03:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Oops

Venerable Bede is most apologetic :) Venerable Bede was not paying attention when he posted to Quill's talk page.

Hee, hee, hee from Quill, who is still not unhappy! Quill 23:45, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Category:Terriers

Wow--you really going to try to categorize all breeds in various types? Other than terriers, we ought to agree on a definitive list of type categories... Elf | Talk 05:50, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

What?! HUH??? Who said that? I was just thinking that 'terriers' should have a category. This happened when I was working with some of the breed articles. Umm....what's been happening over at the Dog Project? I'd better go check out the conversation.... Quill 22:10, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Nothing new--just old discussions on doing this that always stalled out when trying to figure out how to do it... Cuz ya know that once you've got Category:Terriers, one is going to want Category:Herding dogs etc. Elf | Talk 20:27, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject Theatre

Hi! This is a note to let you know that I have just established WikiProject Theatre. Please come and join us in building up Wiipedia’s articles relating to theatre! Ganymead 18:02, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I'm in...sorta...in my 'spare time'! Ha! Quill 02:58, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

The RE-return of Our Gang

Thanks for the vote! --FuriousFreddy 03:47, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the great whistle register edit

I was to figure out how to eliminate that list. I created the category, wasn't sure where to go next. Antares33712 22:52, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No problem. Examples are great, but become lists too quickly in this medium and unbalance the article. Something similar has to be done with character actor#Notable character actors, which is completely out of hand.

Also, if you're an expert on sopranos, can you check out my recent edit to coloratura?

Quill 23:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It's great (accurate), except, the term coloratura soprano isn't SUPPOSED to say anything about a soprano's range, but in contemporary culture is usually meant as an acrobatic soprano. I'm not sure exactly if an uneducated person would get that, but I like it. Clean. Also, a classical soprano with the label coloratura, see Kathleen Battle. Not sure how to incorporate that either :-) Antares33712 23:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I made an edit to the page. Feel free to fix it. I'm braindead right now :-) Antares33712 23:17, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Not sure about our Kate placed where it is. I know she's usually considered a coloratura, I think of her as a lyric coloratura--I've never heard her sing Queen of the Night e.g.--not saying she hasn't, I just haven't heard it so I don't know if she has the 'F'. Quill 23:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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