User talk:Dramatic

Hello there, welcome to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions or how to format them visit our manual of style. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the Village pump. BTW, thanks for starting the Banks Peninsula article. Cheers! --maveric149

Re: No Border network: Go here (http://www.no-racism.net/noborderzone/post/article.php?sid=4&PHPSESSID=f36c666fe88b752e2f418999c604f700) for the copyright violation. -- Zoe

I changed the padding on the James I page. The image no longer overlaps the bullets on the printable version. -- Notheruser 22:30 Apr 12, 2003 (UTC)

Chch to NP, eh?

Thanks for the NZ towns contribution; and here are a couple of my compilations for you to reminisce over:

Kia ora

robinp 00:44, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Good addition of "Havelock" :robinp 22:32, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Contents

1 Spirula

2 Leapfrog

3 response to Territorial Authorities template comments

4 Wikipedia:New articles (Australia and New Zealand)

5 Opera and CSS

6 The Humungous Image Tagging Project

7 Article Licensing

8 Picture Licensing

9 Shrigley Abduction

10 New Zealand Places

12 Totara

13 WikiProject Theatre

Spirula

I've updated the spirula page and created Wikipedia:WikiProject Cephalopods. On Talk:Spirula you mention images of Spirula. Are you still pursuing this? - UtherSRG 15:37, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Leapfrog

Howdy. I've speedy-deleted the leapfrog position article you listed on VfD. For stuff like it (i.e. meets the criteria on Wikipedia:Candidates for speedy deletion) you can list it for speedy deletion on Wikipedia:Speedy deletions, which cuts the paperwork. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 01:56, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)

response to Territorial Authorities template comments

Hey dramatic, thanks for your feedback on my template idea.

I've thought about it, and there's quite a lot of crossover between articles on 'towns' or 'cities' or 'regions', and those on the territorial authorities that cover their respective locations. For example, Southland is not only a geographical article, but also one that talks about the region and the district. Sure I wrote the article, but I've based that style based on others I've seen. Anyone (you, perhaps?) want to create separate articles for the territorial authorities from the geographical articles?

I'm not suggesting you don't, but it'll be quite a mess. What say ye?

If you're going to make changes, I'd appreciate knowing, so I don't cross over with you. :)

In any case, I'm off to sleep soon, so I'll stop my edits for now, while I await your response. :)

(PS: do I know you off GeoCities?)

Thanks, Jonathan Ah Kit 11:30, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC).

Wikipedia:New articles (Australia and New Zealand)

Wikipedia:New articles (Australia and New Zealand) has just been created and may be worth the occasional visit if you need inspiration and/or to keep track of what you're adding for us in God's Own Country. Kind regards - Robin Patterson 08:12, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC) (yes, I was "robinp" above)

Hi Dramatic, thanks for expanding the Homer Tunnel article. Its been a while since I was down there, so I was mostly relying on webpages for the info. I used to live in Stratford, how do you like NP? Ppe42 08:49, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)

Opera and CSS

I am just curious about where you found the percentage (98.7%) of CSS1 that Opera implemented before 2000. It would not surprise me in the least, but I've always had a hard time finding precise statistics on CSS support. More information on how much was (and is) supported by various browsers would be great to have in the CSS article, if you know of a reliable place to find it! -- Wapcaplet 21:53, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Your question sent me tracking down the site - it Was Eric Meyer's webreview, no-longer online at http://style.webreview.com (which has been taken over by Dr Dobbs' Journal) but I found some pages via the archive.org wayback machine.

Looks as though I need to correct what I wrote in the article. The version of Opera which scored that rank was 5.0 which came out after MacIE5 (in Dec 2000). Opera 3.6 scored in the high 80's (compared to 38% for NN4 and 67% fir IE5)

Excellent. Yeah, I used Opera from somewhere around 3.0 to 5.0 before switching to Mozilla and Firefox. Opera's CSS support was always good. It'd be fun to see how modern browsers stack up... Hey, I wonder if it's possible to find enough data on CSS support to make a little timeline chart showing how much CSS each one supported through the years. That'd be a fantastic addition to the CSS article. Too bad the webreview data is several years out of date. Could you give me a link to the webreview percentages you found through wayback? I wasn't able to find them by browsing (though there is the compatibility chart, from which approximate data could be collected). -- Wapcaplet 17:26, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

sure (took me a bit of finding) its at 1 (http://web.archive.org/web/20010607075509/www.webreview.com/style/css1/leaderboard.shtml).

There is some good "first support" data (also dated) at Brian Wilson's index.ot.css 2 (http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/css/supportkey/syntax.htm) - he's done similar for HTML 2. I have offered to build him a database backend when I have time so that it might be easier to update. Brian is another top CSS/HTML person working at Opera (along with Håkon Wium Lie and Ian Hickson

The Humungous Image Tagging Project

Hi. You've helped with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)

I've come across some of your images, like Image:Wombats in captivity.jpg, that don't have tags, it'd be a great help if you could tag these --nixie 07:41, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
Multi-Licensing Guide
Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)| talk)

Picture Licensing

Hallo
is a lovely picture. I've seen it has a {{GFDL}} tag because you uploaded it without specifically mentioning a license. Was your intention to keep it under the GFDL or to release it to the public domain? Thanks.--Erri4a 15:52, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Shrigley Abduction

Good that you noticed that. It seems I retained the Newgate Calendar date thought my main source was the Jones&Ashby book (which I no longer have in my hands, I'm afraid) - Skysmith 10:01, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

New Zealand Places

> [snip] Why are you suddenly moving dozens of New Zealand towns articles when there has long been a concensus that non-ambiguous place names should not have the ", New Zealand" tacked on for ease of use. Can you point to some recent discussion where this was overturned? dramatic 18:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

(Replies interspersed and indented thus.)

"Moving dozens" is a bit of an exaggeration, just the stops along the North Island Main Trunk Railway, and the pages I persoanlly had added. But in principal I see where you are coming from.

Sorry for the overreaction, I didn't go beyond the first 50 entries (all in one day) of your user contributions page.

Thanks for contacting me before I did anymore "damage". Please point me to the discussion.

The most recent discussion is at Wikipedia:New_Zealand_Wikipedians'_notice board, but it has been discussed somewhere before that page existed. (with some discussion pages having dozens of archived pages you need to know some faily exact search terms to find an old discussion).

The basic problem I have is that I have enough of a problem figuring out if the place name is truely unique in New Zealand, without having to check out all the place names in the pacific, never mind the rest of the world.

Google is your friend :-) Odds are that if the place name is maori it is unique (the exceptions are mostly like Rangiora which is both a place and a plant.

Also notice that Auckland and Christchurch do not have the ', New Zealand' because although there are other places with those names in the world, the New Zealand ones are by far the most significant.

Also I notice that all(?) of the towns in the US are suffixed with their state, even if the name is not ambiguous. eg. Catlettsburg

I think that's partly an american cultural thing, partly because the US is too big to expect many people to know the location of town x, and also because such a majority of place names are ambiguous that its easier to be consistent.

It seemed to me that it would be the courteous thing to do to suffix the NZ Town named with ", New Zealand" and if the name was indeed unambiguous leave a redirect to the fully qualified, which later could be turned into a disambiguous page is needed.

So based on this, where is the best place to discuss the issue and find consensus. If there is a democracy here of contributors, then I will argue my case, and volenteer to write the bot suffix all NZ place names with ",New Zealand"

so far, our practice has been the opposite: disambiguate only when necessary.

Yikes.... I found this out when I couldn't find things. Or when I had a list of names, eg the North Island Main Trunk railway and had to manually find each location, inspite of the list being unambiguous. It is all rather unproductive. I would suspect that the disambiguate only came about because the first handful of entries were added easily, and no-one dared rock the boat.

BTW: I have two other issues to discuss that can be discussed in a forum:

this there a New Zealand time line somewhere? So then I can put 1874, instead of 1874.

That sounds a brilliant idea for a series of articles. I'm not sure whether the format should be 1874, New Zealand or 1874 in New Zealand - Wikipedia:Village_pump is a good place to ask such questions.dramatic 10:03, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 Taumarunui

who should I chat to to get [Worldwind] [url]s accepted into wikipedia? eg in:

 Kakahi

User:NevilleDNZ Wed Apr 27 08:35:55 SGT 2005

BTW, Usernames are case sensitive: NevilleDNZ is different from Nevillednz. Are you aware that the easiest way to sign on a talk page is to type for tildes (~~~~)

Nope, that was news to me. I'm still learning things. Let me test :-)

Nevillednz 10:39, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

User:NevilleDNZ Wed Apr 27 08:35:55 SGT 2005

 Examples:

[worldwind://goto/world=Earth&lat=-38.93647&lon=175.38455&alt=4987&dir=-0.2 Kakahi Community Hall NASA Satellite Image]
[worldwind://goto/world=Earth&lat=-38.93659&lon=175.38451&alt=576&dir=147.8&tilt=78.7 Composite Satellite/Radar Image of Kakahi with Mountains: Ruahehu, Tongarero and Ngarahoe in background]

These images are great... created from a NASA radar imaging database, and can be rotated 360° to view the entire landscape!!!

NevilleDNZ^TALK? Wed Apr 27 17:50:46 SGT 2005

Okay, I've now looked at Worldwind, and you won't be able to link to the images because it is a non-standard protocol - I'm not sure if the mediawiki software knows how to present it. Also, browsers have to have the protocol support added: In Opera this is a simple edit in preferences once you have the software installed. IE is probably automatic, but other browsers unlikely, and worldwind is Windows-only. (Wikipedia has a stronger-than-usual *nix readership). I'm going to have to wait until I have a new hard drive before I can try it! I only have 2GB partitions and most of them are half full!

The reason they picked Windows is because the development time was less, and they funded a student to do the work for even less. Someone commented that it would be too tough for OpenGL on Unix... but I am not so sure. (Read: another task on mytodo/wishlist) Nevillednz 10:39, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Totara

It's part of a project to move at least some plants over entirely to scientific names; see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Scientific name page titles. It helps a lot with indexing at Category:Podocarpaceae in that it groups all species in the genus together. Over 90% of the species in Podocarpaceae don't have any common name at all; to have a small handful indexed separately by common name looks odd. Also, outside of New Zealand, you'd be very hard put to find anyone who has the faintest clue what sort of a thing 'totara' is. The scientific name is more recognisable at least as a scientific name and shows what its congeners are and are not. - MPF 10:37, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject Theatre

Hi! This is a note to let you know that I have just established WikiProject Theatre. Please come and join us in building up Wiipedia’s articles relating to theatre! Ganymead 17:35, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

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