What an Awful entry. The man was a giant that many still stand undeservingly on his shoulders. i suggest you put more content in for this artist lest your Wikipedia become less the relevant for anything.

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1 I remember 2 ok 3 Retort to juvenile rambling 1 ==

I remember

How about adding the comments yourself? I saw Buckley at Hill Auditorium in Ann Arbor MI in the early 1970s and he was so fucked up that he could not remember the words to his own songs, he started and stopped songs at moments that were meaningless to the audience,and would repeatedly whip out a thumb piano [or something] and just plunk it into the microphone for what seemed like hours. I have rarely felt as bad for another person as I did for his band members that night. He might have been a giant [and i was and still am a fan of his] but he did not walk tall that night. Your turn Carptrash 03:21, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

i'm midway through a more fitting tribute to tim. --AeneasMacNeill 00:01, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

the rewritten article is cascading nicely, it should be up here for you vultures later today :)

i havent written about a musician before, nor do i ahve any musical knowledge - and this is my first complete wiki article - so it's taking a while to make the article satisfactory to my standards. --AeneasMacNeill 13:45, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

ok

ive uploaded my expansion in a raw form, i hope it isn't too badly written or uninformed. if anyone knows how one goes about getting the copyright priveleges to use a picture of tim it would be appreciated.

thanks. AeneasMacNeill 01:58, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

This new version is not NPOV (it's quite hagiographical) and rife with spelling and grammatical errors. I suggest reverting until the author makes corrections. Dumping a mess like this on the community all at once isn't cool. Crculver 11:47, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Retort to juvenile rambling

rather than being caustic, why don't you correct this supposed "mess"? your criticism is neither constructive nor beneficial to the development of this article. you aren't 'cool'. --AeneasMacNeill 13:20, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

could you please correct the spelling errors and grammar as well, as i've spent hours writing this and need a break.

• 1) Attacking your fellow editors on attack pages by changing the section titles isn't smiled upon on Wikipedia. I've seen people subsequently banned start off like this. 2) The biggest problem is here the lack of NPOV. You cannot say, for example, that Buckley had a "moving voice", but rather "many listeners found his voice moving", etc. As the person above mentioned several months back, there are plenty of people who did not find Buckley's art appealing. Crculver 13:32, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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i shall do my best to alter the worship, as i have ashamedly let it seep onto the page. i would be surprised if wikipedia wouldn't frown upon an editor calling someones hard graft a "mess". from an npov point of view perhaps it is, but careless comments by you aren't making me eager to fulfill your request.

I don't think it's a question of request. The idolisation/POV style of this article makes it feel more like a fanpage than an entry in an encyclopaedia. There's no need for either of you to be rude to one another about it, or to not oblige to the standards set. If you offer constructive criticism politely, then the person should take your advice. Likewise, the person receiving the criticism should make an effort to do so. I'm going to at least put one of the clean-up notices on the article after I read through it again. Perhaps you can reach a compromise of some sort. --Thorns Among Our Leaves 01:14, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)