Talk:Stockholm
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From the old /Todo page:
Geography: Add descriptions on the climate and geological background.
Government: Add sections on swedish seat of gevernment and also on the mode of city government
Culture: Give more examples of museums (and links to their websites) and generally expand the section with information on festivals and so on.
History: A LOT of work to be done. 750 years worth, on or about.
- See also : Stockholm
A picture would be nice.
- Nice places to visit is "us video" one of scandinavias best video stores
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- There`s a very nice gay community in stockholm. Most of the guys meet in a boat called "Patricia" in the sundays just to have a good meal or o good time.
seem to me not useful additions. I took them (or something similar) out earlier today, but they've found their way back in in slightly different forms. The first statement is at best completely un-NPOV and the second also looks very dodgy. Something like "Stockholm has a vibrant gay community" or whatever would be OK if true, but I don't know if it is true, so can't really edit the above. So I'm taking it out again. --Camembert
I selected the Random Page link, which brought up the article on Stockholm. I am a new user and hope you do not mind my comments. I have not been to Stockholm, but the gay aspect interested me, given the comment that was inserted and deleted. I reviewed the attached Stockholm Visitors Board (http://www.stockholmtown.com/) - The official visitors' guide, which is a link on the page. It has a section on gays, which is informative on the subject. Under cafes it does list the Patricia.
Sorry, didn't know it would not enter my member name automatically - rickeyjay.
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Mixed up article
This article is in general very nice. One problem though is that it is an article both on the municipality of stockholm and the metropolitan area of stockholm. Some examples :
- The Karolinska Institute is situated in the Solna Municipality, not in Stockholm
- The University College of South Stockholm is situated in the municipalitys of Huddinge, Haninge and Södertälje, not in Stockholm
- The football team AIK is based in the Solna Municipality.
I suggest that things related to other municipalitys are placed under each municipalitys own article OR to the article Metropolitan Stockholm. Jordgubbe 20:36, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC) (citizen of Nacka Municipality)
The municipalities of Solna, Huddinge, Haninge and parts of Nacka are located in the population centre (Swedish: tätort) of Stockholm. Therefore I don’t see the problem by calling AIK a Stockholm based team etc.
The University College of South Stockholm however is no longer located in Södertälje (that is not even located in the Greater Stockholm Area).
213.66.42.53 14:27, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you for giving you opinions. This is a common problem for many municipalities. To solve this, the Swedish Wikipedia has split all municipalities into a city part and a municipality part. Here on this wikipedia, we have not done so because there is often very little material about the municipality other than about the seat.
- A possibility is to explain the distinction in the intro of the article, and then include everything in one article -- if the material then grows, the material about other municipalities can be moved to the appropriate municipality.
- The same problem exists in Malmö article, which I have been working a little on.
- Anyways, if anyone feels strongly about this, they are free to move around material, as long as they don't ruin anything or introduce obvious errors.
- --Fred-Chess 18:13, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
Pronunciation
I corrected the IPA a tad. The "h" in Stockholm is really never pronounced unless you're actually spelling the name out. It gets lost with the "k" and instead creates a long consonant. You can hear it in the recording quite clearly, and that is as far as I know how most people pronounce "Stockholm" in Sweden.
If anyone knows how to properly denote accent 1 and 2 in Swedish in IPA, please let me know. karmosin 00:02, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)
- This is typical Stockholm-accent dominance. Naturally, the way it is pronounce in Stockholm is the way it should be pronounced in the Swedish language?
- As far as I know myself, I pronounce the "h", but maybe you think I am wrong in this?
- --Fred-Chess 05:18, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
I was born in Stockholm ,and I too believe myself to pronounce the 'h'. I respectfully suggest that the transcription should be changed to include the 'h', for the following three reasons: 1. There is no rule in Swedish that prescribes aitch-dropping. The general rule is that aitches should be pronounced. 2. When making a phonetic transcription, you should write the word as it sounds when pronounced carefully, not when it is slurred over in rapid speech. For instance, you would not give the pronunciation of the English word 'them' as 'em', even though it is sometimes pronounced that way. 3. There is no drawback to the full sound - no confusion, no risk of misunderstanding, just added clarity. --Obl 10:26, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
- Good good. I have to explain that I bashed Stockholm a little because I know Karmosin is from Stockholm.
- Now that we have reached a consensus, you can change it yourself, if you want, Obl. I agree with alkl your statements. Thanks for contributing.
- --Fred-Chess 18:02, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
Nackasändaren
Somebody anon. added Nackasändaren among sites of interest. It is really just a couple of steel radio masts in the middle of the forest. If you're into that kind of thing, I suppose it might be of some interest, but it hardly justifies a place in this list. Kaknästornet is a TV tower of little interest in itself, but it has a good view of Stockholm from the top. / Tupsharru 13:53, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
sthlm city
If there is a reason not to call it Stockholm City, just change it back...
--Fred-Chess 14:00, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
WikiProject Cities does not say much on the subject. However, for countries, the WikiProject Countries rule is that the full name in the local language(s) should be used as caption for the infobox. There seems to be a tendency to do the same for cities. Paris has "Ville de Paris", Oslo has "Oslo kommune", Helsinki has "Helsingin kaupunki/Helsingfors stad" and Lisbon has "Cidade de Lisboa". (On the other hand Warsaw has "Warsaw" and Copenhagen has "Copenhagen, Denmark", but I wouldn't read that much into that.) I've changed it back. / Alarm 16:37, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)