Talk:Nine Inch Nails

Contents

1 Formatting the word "halo" 2 Article Re-organization 3 A cover of Hurt 4 An Amazing Article 5 Into the Void 6 Misc. non-musical Nin Material 7 Quote 8 very good article

Formatting the word "halo"

How should the word "halo" be formatted? Is it just a release number, or is it another name for the title? All of the halo pages and this page should be converted to the same format. Possibilites:

• halo - informal, synonymous with "number" - e.g., Broken is release number 5 / halo 5.
• Halo - formal, synonymous with the album title - e.g., Broken is also known as Halo 5.
• Halo - somewhere in-between - e.g., Broken is Halo 5.

Formal might work. When someone says "Halo 14 is my favorite," that is closer to "The Fragile is my favorite" than "NIN's 14th release is my favorite" Than again, informal might work too. When someone says "I have all of the halos!", that means "I have every NIN release!" Perhaps a combination of formatting, depending on context?

Edit: at least in the introductory paragraphs of each halo, I've used Halo # format because it's an aka for the title.

--Tripps 17:39, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Article Re-organization

I re-organized the article yesterday and added a bit more info. Some things that I did:

• section on the naming of NIN, which will answer info-seekers's question about that. Don't know if this should be the first section on not, but there it is for now.
• section on the genre -- because it's tedious to see NIN always referred to as an industrial band when this isn't totally true.
• began italizing the word halo when it's used as an aka for the album name.
• future releases section to collect all data on future projects. Just brief descriptions, however -- the main data belongs on the relevant halo page.
• moved Closure DVD info to Closure (Nine Inch Nails).
• reversed the order of the live band listing. Makes more sense to go from earliest to latest.
• trivia section for all the miscellaneous info.
• re-arranged the links. Removed the French NIN page link (belongs on the French wiki article for NIN). Put all of the discussion forums at the bottom of the list in alphabetical order. Added the touring link.

Things I plan to add in the future on this article or the halo articles (or would like to see others add):

• music video data
• better history of the band
• impact on culture (copycat bands, "Closer" as a favorite strip club song, etc.)
• awards won section

Essentially, I want this articles to be in good shape for when With Teeth comes out. There'll be all kinds of new people seeking NIN info and this is one place some of them will come.

--Tripps 18:11, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

A cover of Hurt

This is a bit offtopic, but do any of you know who covers hurt in this remix: http://files.bungie.org/themegg_mid2.mov —User:Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason/Sig 07:14, 2005 Mar 16 (UTC)

Would be slightly more ontopic here
"Hurt (Start the Violence Mix)" Tin Electric Radiant Decay: A Tribute To Nine Inch Nails 2000 --Tripps 14:44, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

An Amazing Article

In case everyone doesn't know the Resources section from Nin.com (http://www.nin.com/resources/index.html) contains a link to this article. I think that's a great indication of how good this article is and everyone who has worked on it deserves a pat on the back. [i know this really doesn't belong here I just thought everyone would've liked to know about it]. Naufana 17:13, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

I just noticed that myself and thought it was pretty cool. I wonder if the nin.com webmaster is a wiki-contributor around these parts?

--Tripps 03:13, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Apologies if I'm bungling this post, but Tripps, please shoot me an email at my NIN Hotline email address... not sure how to contact you. Feel free to wipe this post afterwards ;)

--Leviathant 3:32, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Into the Void

I'm thinking that the Into the Void single (halo 16) should be listed in the "offical Releases" section, even though Things Falling Apart is usually recognized at halo 16. I was initially hesitant to add it to the list, but in the interests of having a complete discography I included it (there are now two halo 16s). People might argue that "Into the Void" is a radio single and it doesn't belong in the offical discography but I have a copy of the legitimate radio single for "Into the Void" and it has a different cover and track listing that the one in the Wikipedia article. Naufana 18:30, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

Into the Void was originally in the halo table when I began editing the page. I had removed it for a few reasons. One reason: in database-speak, I see the halo number column as the primary key of the table; that is, each entry should be unique and identify the row it's in. Another reason: Into the Void isn't mentioned on nin.com's discography. The similarly non-US-released Halo 15 is, for example. Although Halo 10v2 is also missing from the official site, it has a unique halo number, the exact same title as the US release, and new songs -- it makes sense to me to treat it the same as the two Halo 8 re-releases in this regard. Another reason: Things Falling Apart seems clearly to be Trent's official intention for Halo 16 -- I'd almost think Universal Music came up with the Into the Void single on their own way down there in Oz.

Without it in there, the halo table matches the inter-linked album infoboxes on the right side of each halo page (We're in This Together's info box links back to The Fragile and forward to Things Falling Apart, for example). As well, it matches the Template:NIN halos boxes at the bottom of each halo page (which would look odd if there were a double 16 added to it).

So, I'll edit it out of there again, but add a mention of it below the table. You think that might be the way to go? Or should it really be left in there?

--Tripps 03:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

i think that's an excellent compromise, personally i thought it looked kind of odd w/ the two halo 16s, which is why i was relucant to include it in the first place. for some reason the simplest answer of tagging in on at the end eluded me. i just thought it deserved to be included in some fashion in the interests of completeness. as a side note, i believe "into the void" was intended to be a full fledged single; i remember 'modern rock radio' playing it for a short time, and of course europe got the video. Naufana 23:14, Apr 16, 2005 (UTC)

As a note I fixed the little blurb about Into the Void, originally it read that Things Fall Apart was released first. Although the dates on the infoboxes for the two halo 16's read that Into the Void was released about 10 months earlier. Naufana

Misc. non-musical Nin Material

I was wondering if the Fragility 2.0 Tour Book should be included somewhere in this article. Naufana 03:11, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)

perhaps a list of general non-musical nin stuff, excluding ubiquitous items like T-shirts & posters. Material like the nin notebooks, i heard there are (literally) nine inch nails that have the word 'broken' stamped in them that were promo items from that era, some of you may have heard about the NIN condom that was created and distributed at the initial release of 'Down in it'. (btw once finals are over I'm going to uncover and dust off all my old Nin related magazines, etc and attempt to write a comprehensive history of the band)Naufana 00:30, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

Quote

@"looked cool on my leather jacket": Where does this quote come from? I can't find it, but if anyone can cite a source, then please delete the {{dubious}} sign. Shinobu 02:35, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

very good article

thanks to all the editors, this article helped me to understand at last all my cds and all these "halo" things............... Kernitou 16:36, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)