Talk:Have I Got News For You

I removed:

Germaine Greer's on-air excoriation of rival newspaper columnist Suzanne Moore and concomitant introduction into the English language of the expression "fuck-me boots".

Greer's comments on "fuck-me shoes" (not boots) were first published in the Grauniad (or indeed written for the Grauniad and leaked to the Evening Standard). What she said on HIGNFY is here: http://www.hignfy.net/transcripts14.htm.

Also, libel is when a defamation is in "permanent form", including a television programme, as per http://www.writersworld.tv/authors/libellaws.htm

--rbrwr

Ummm... why refer to the Guardian by Private Eye's joke-name for it? SoM 11:48, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I was probably in a frivolous mood. It was a long time ago, I was young... Anyway, I assume that anyone who is sufficiently interested in HIGNFY to read this talk page would understand and appreciate the reference (or at least be able to work out which publication is meant). I've made it a wikilink for the benefit of anyone who might still be confused. --rbrwr^± 12:44, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Fair enough. I only even mentioned it (IIRC) because it's a featured article.--SoM 19:10, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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• Fan site with reviews, links, etc (http://www.hignfy.net/)

I've removed the above link, because the link no longer works. The site may have been used as a reference, in which case can we still verify everything on the page? I expect so, since it's a very well-known programme and all that, but I just thought I'd better draw people's attention to the potential problem. What do we do when websites used as references disappear, anyway? Do we have to remove all the material we got from them which can't be verified elsewhere? -- Oliver P. 22:47 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Removing information?! Surely not! I had hoped to leave the dead link, to emphasise the fact that it was there, but no longer - I rather suspect (unsubstantiated) that the BBC over zealously shut down the fansite... --ntnon 00.06 2 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Some of it's available from the Wayback Machine at http://www.archive.org (though we can't necessarily rely it remaining there, either). The Greer transcript I mention above is at [1] (http://web.archive.org/web/20020224031419/www.hignfy.net/transcripts14.htm) --rbrwr

Hi, I owned the website in question, and the BBC id not shut it own but in fact actively linked to it, as proved by BBC Online stories related to HIGNFY. The site shut down because I could not long afford the time and the price of webspace had gone up. The link to Off The Telly at the bottom of the page refers to an article written by me, of which there are further parts to be published soon.

I don't remember the exact details but I remember a Tory MP once sued the BBC and Hatrick Publications for publishing a book acompanying the programme called Have I Got 1997 For You which said he was a "bastard" or a "shit" or something along those lines. If anyone remembers any more details of the case please post them here. Saul Taylor

"Conniving little shit" (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/49430.stm), apparently. --rbrwr

Alexander Armstrong

I can't find any evidence that he will be the new perminant host as the article previously stated. Saul Taylor 12:43, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)

See [2] (http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_860153.html).

Hmm, on further viewing, it is written by the AP about reporting from The Sun, of all places, so perhaps we should take it with a pinch of salt...

James F. (talk) 00:12, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I don't think we should say that a new presenter has been apointed until the BBC officially anounces it. Saul Taylor 04:01, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)

He will make his fifth host's appearance in episode 2 of the new series next week. Jeremy Clarkson is due to host episode 1, with Germane Greer as one of the panellists, apparently, so I've edited it to say "Most (broadcast) apparances", so it still says 7 for her. Robert Mc Cann

Can we please keep the updating until after the transmission? Because it was done prematurely, Clarkson was incremented TWICE for one ep. - SoM 16:30, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Started Have I Got News For You episodes list. Its my first atempt at doing tables. Saul Taylor 02:27, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)

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An anonynomous contributor has added:

Gillian Anderson and David Duchovny were once reported by TV guides as being guests on an upcoming show. When the show aired, two different guests were present, and Angus joked that he didn't know how that had happened.

I don't remember this and I couldn't find any verification substaniating it on Google. Does anyone else remember this happening? Saul Taylor 17:48, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Yes, I'm pretty sure this happened - there's a couple of contemporary postings on Google Groups [3] (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22have+i+got+news+for+you%22+%22david+duchovny%22+%22gillian+anderson%22&sa=N&tab=wg). I think it just seemed like a crap joke at the time, so whether the BBC really did start the rumour I've no idea. Sjorford 21:14, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

On the "Best of HIGNFY" DVD there is a trivia feature - they appear as subtitles - which gives extra info. and background to stories. One of the comments is about this - saying the BBC and production company were inundated with calls when the story was circulated. I will not profit from this so don't consider it an advert - That DVD features clips from the beginning of the show to Angus' last appearance and is EXCELLENT. I've just bought it myself, well worth it (£8.97 from a certain high profile website....)Mark 20:56, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Agreed. Even if you have no knowledge of, memory of, or interest in the people or topics covered on this CD, you'll still split your sides laughing. -- Derek Ross | Talk 04:07, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)

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Could Piers Morgan's appearance be considered a high point? I'm tempted to put it in. I know its considered the worst appearance by any guest ever but its highly watchable - I think its the same phenomenon as people slowing down to watch a car crash. Mark 21:00, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Boris

What article of HIGNFY could be complete without mention of Boris Johnson appearances. For those who haven't seen these delights (both as guest, and as guest presenter), then the MP for Henley's rambling tangential style is TV gold.

In particular: during his guest presenter appearance, when the autocue would, at every available opportunity, try to get Boris to swear, and his efforts to avoid this.

Paul did that too. Thanks to whoever corrected the DVD synopsis of "The Full Boris". I was sure that it was 90 minutes, but I've watched again this week, just to make sure, and it is indeed 60. But then again, seeing as its Boris we're talking about, it probably feels like 90 minutes each time you watch it. Robert Mc Cann

Image

This article has been listed as a featured article lacking a picture; what about a screen-capture of one of the DVDs?
James F. (talk) 07:48, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Copyright? Is that fair use? If so, could we use, say, the DVD cover from http://www.amazon.com ? See [4] (http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00006RHUB.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg) -- ALoan (Talk) 17:07, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I suppose we could use the Amazon cover image, but, frankly the quality isn't much...

A screen-capture would come under Fair Dealings, I imagine, yes, and almost definitely under Fair Use (so the Wikimedia Foundation would be all right, too).

James F. (talk) 02:58, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

THe picture of Boris, and most certaintly the caption describing him as a future prime minister are entirely inappropriate for this article. Mintguy (T) 00:24, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

There's a better version of the same image at http://www.boriswatch.com, which as it is also derived from the book cover would possibly be OK to use, if it's just the quality that's the problem. And on the caption: is an amusing caption not appriopriate for an article on a comedy programme? Perhaps there is need to add more on Boris's contributions to the show in the article? Richard Taylor 09:40, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I think a picture of Boris somewhere wouldn't be too inappropriate, however, I think such a picture should be lower down on the page, if we include one, as at the moment it is in the place you would expect a picture of the show's logo, or a general screen grab or somelike like that. I do think the boriswatch image is a better one, in any case, as it doesn't have the writing on, but the ideal boris image would be a screen grab, as then it would be a picture of him in the show, which is after all the subject of the article.

As for the caption, I don't think you can justify it merely on the grounds of humour, as it probably won't be clear that it is humourous to people not aware of who boris is. As such, I think you shouldn't say he is a potential future prime minister, unless there is evidence that he is likely to make a bid for PM. Also, I think the caption is too long anyway, and much of the information should be in the article proper.

I do think we should have some information on Boris, although what we want to include is debatable, as there isn't one big moment to focus on like with Hattersley and the Tub of Lard, although his 'kick blair's butt' round would probably qualify. Silverfish 11:26, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Anyone who has been described as "the star of Have I Got News For You" (when campaigning for Henley) needs a prominent mention, but I don't agree with the captioning. Find a moment (the guest presenting episode with the coconuts should do it) and stick it in there. Kinitawowi 11:06, Aug 11, 2004 (UTC)

I put up a hand-drawn version of the HIGNFY title this morning. I'm not sure what Wikipedia's stance is on trademarks though, so this may not be alright. -- Solipsist 11:14, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)