Talk:Areas of Edinburgh

Excellent idea and I like the free-floating, subjective approach. I would like to propose the following areas for further documentation and may even do them myself if I get round to it:

The Southside, Sciennes/Newington/Mayfield/Salisbury/Minto/Dalkeith Road/Blackford/The Grange (how many distinct areas are there between the Meadows in the S., Morningside/Marchmont in the E., Niddrie in the NW, /Peffermill,Liberton and Blackford Hill in the North, and what? in the West?? Duddingston the Queens Park and finally Musselburgh? What area do people who live in the centre of Dalkeith Rd. say they come from? Does Mayfield (EH9) exist as an area? Or is it part of Newington? Where does Newington stop and (in the North) Salisbury (in the west) Blackford (and in the northwest) Grange begin?

I propose that Newington be defined as the area from the top of Mayfield Road (in the S - junction with Liberton Brae), including Kings Buildings and the SGI but not the valley to the Hermitage (which is neutral ground or belongs to the hills) as far as the Reid Memorial church, including all the side streets between Lauder Road and Mayfield Road/Ratclifee Terrace/Causewayside/Lord Russell Gdns (if that's what it's called at the Dick Vet) but excluding any part of Lauder Road itself (which is Blackford in the North and Marchmont in the South).

More problematic is the extension of Newington to the North. I would argue that both the Grange and Sciennes are part of Newington, which thus encompasses all the territory east of Lauder Road and, after the junmction with Grange Road, east of Marchmont Crescent (escluding again houses IN Marchmont Cres.) and would extend this all the ways to the Meadows.

In the East the situation is even more problematic: Briefly, I would say that Salisbury is Newington, but Dalkeith ROad is not - it is a district of itself, I suppose. Streets northeast of the Meadows (Nicholson Street, Rankiellor, St. Leonards - all the way to the Park) belong to the Southside, which phases into the Oldtown/Cowgate/Canongate/Hollyrood somewhere at the start of the Pleasance.

Cameron Toll is Newington's SE-most point. THe Southside does not belong to Newington.

My conclusion is that Newington is a collective name for the "square" defined by Cameron Toll, The Commonwealth Pool, Grange Cemetery and Reid Memorial Church

I am now happy in my mind. I am interested in what anyone else would have to say on the matter...

Edinburgers ??

has anyone ever used this word? The nearest I can recall is Ahm frae Ednnburrah (as against the Glaswegian Embra). Also, Cramond has long been used as a Sunday walk for Leithers - why exclude them? I write as a Leither in exile in the Far West (Gourock). Have edited the line to something more neutral. tarrathenoo, --dave souza 23:34, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Can I point out the spelling Edinburgher? Also for evidence of usage check the Scotsman newspaper. Try this search (http://www.google.com/search?q=edinburgher+site%3Ascotsman.com). In general when I hear the word used it's with tongue slightly in cheek, as no-one is quite certain if the word is a 'madey-upper'. --Air 14:13, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I use the word Edinburger and as far as I am aware it is by far the most commonly used word to identify those from the city. Example of the phrase being used by locals to identify themselves can be seen in the livejournal Edinburgh community, edinburgers (www.livejournal.com/~edinburgers). Whilst I understand the Leith pride, it should be noted that those from Leith are at once Leithers and Edinburgers, the two terms being non mutually exclusive. Magicalsausage 19:48, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Educational, this wikipedia! Presumably pronounced as in hamburger, not as burgh/borough. Since I'm evidently well out of date a check over Cramond would be appreciated - is there still a a rowing-boat ferry over to Dalmeny Woods? - dave souza 20:53, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I am afraid the Dalmeny ferry is no more - it stopped running a few years ago. It is rather sad if you ask me. Magicalsausage 20:36, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Sad indeed, that was a splendid walk - still presumably available from the other end. Cramond modified to suit. Still, nice about the oldest settlement thing. Ta for the info, - dave souza 06:00, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Explaining my large changes to the page

I felt that the page was a fairly random mixture of a list page and having it's own content. As it happened, Portobello, Scotland and Cramond already had their own pages, which provided more and better content, so I deleted their sections. I moved Bruntsfield, Cowgate and Grassmarket to their own pages. Lastly, I changed the list to one item per line so that it's easier to read. Maccoinnich 18:29, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

I've put together a template (at Template:Areas of Edinburgh; see below) from this list which may be of some use; it's a bit large, unfortunately, but it'll serve to link the individual pages together. I assume the aim is to have a seperate page on each area?

It might be worth trying to divide these into rough areas - central, north, south, east, west, or something similar; it might well make it more informative. Of course, it might also prove a matter of dispute ;-) Shimgray 23:19, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Template:Areas of Edinburgh

Very good idea actually. I can see a lot of useful pages springing out of this eventually. I just replaced the list on this page with the template, as it doesn't seem sensible to have to duplicate effort whenever (inevitable) changes are made to the list. Maccoinnich 12:01, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)