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Hi!

Welcome to wikipedia. Are you ex-IITM? -- Arvindn 07:45, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Good to see you remember me. Wasn't I your hostel senior too? I see your trail on the WWW everywhere - /., k5, the works! Keep up the good work (read "karma whoring") :-) So, aren't you in your 4th year now? -- Ambarish 09:09, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Fifth, actually: I'm in dual degree. I'm just getting done with the long and painful apping process, so I expect to be doing even more karma whoring in the future ;^) -- Arvindn 15:22, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)
All the best, then, with your apping. -- Ambarish 22:15, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I liked your addition to the Buddhism page. I think it's mainly Hari Krishna's that believe the Buddha as the incarnation of Vishnu thing - I remember talking to one of their guys in the street one day. He was interesting, but ultimately inflexible in his views. Mahaabaala 17:07, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Actually, it's not just Hare Krishna's. The period before Adi Sankara was a period of the rise of Buddhism and Jainism in India at the expense of Hinduism. Sankara and later Ramanuja (http://www.ramanuja.org) and Madhva (http://www.dvaita.org) brought about a renaissance in Hinduism. In Sankara's time, in particular, Buddhism had taken root in India very strongly, and he had to vigorously oppose Buddhism while at the same time expounding a philosophy similar to Buddhism in order to check the spread of Buddhism. (He seems to have succeeded in part, as Buddhism is almost non-existent in India today). In any case, part of the strategy of the Hindus was to claim that Gautama Buddha was the 9th avatar of Vishnu and Krishna the 8th. This is mostly believed in North India - Buddhism was stronger there. In the South, most folks believe that Balarama was the 8th avatar and Krishna the 9th. -- Ambarish 22:15, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)
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I was referring to her comment that it was ad hominem to say that thoughts that 'idol' isn't a derogatory and inaccurate term in the wider English-speaker are fanciful and wishful unreality. As for Romila Thapar, that was brought up by Kukkurovaca and I never called you her follower. You're not out of line in discussing, but your warnings are irrelevant to the conversation in question. I was very much addressing the idol issue and you'll note that no personal attacks or comments were made.--LordSuryaofShropshire 22:51, May 8, 2004 (UTC)

Rice

I wasn't aware of the Persian/sanskrit connection. But, I do remember reading the Tamil connection somewhere. Not sure..Should double-check. Chancemill 08:51, May 21, 2004 (UTC)


Hi Ambarish, I live in Urbana too. I am the one who created Illayaraja, only two days ago. Wiki proves the six degrees of seperation. If you are the ambarish that I know of (in CS department), I won't be too surprised. --ganesh 00:20, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hey Ganesh, great to see you here! Yes, indeed it's a small world. I see you created an account recently - do ask me if you get stuck anywhere. Better still, ask at the Wikipedia:Help Desk. Other interesting pages include Wikipedia:Community Portal and Wikipedia:Style and How-to Directory. BTW, Ilayaraaja was already there before you created Illayaraja, so I just merged in stuff you'd added into the older page (with the correct spelling acc. to his official page (http://www.raajangahm.com)) Ambarish 04:46, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Thanks. I will ask you if I need any help. --ganesh 04:58, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

HI, I somehow missed your other message on Tamil fonts. I haven't fixed the issue. I will try to install the unicode font and if not, I will seek your help. Thanks.--ganesh 22:43, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)


Thirty fifth or thirty second?

Hi Ambarish, you added Chennai to Thirty most populous cities in the world and stated it is ranked 32. However, the Chennai link lists it as 35th. Is yours an updated figure? Cheers. Moriori 01:08, Jun 15, 2004 (UTC)

Hi Moriori, Chennai is the 32nd biggest city in the world (http://www.world-gazetteer.com/home.htm - same reference as in Thirty most populous cities in the world), and the 35th largest urban agglomeration. List of metropolitan areas by population lists populations of agglomerations.
My point is about consistency in Wikipedia. Our Chennai site says it is a city, and says it is the 35th biggest city in the world. If the Chennai site is to remain at 35, then so must our entry for Chennai on the Thirty most populous cities in the world page (where you listed it at 32). Otherwise, they should both be 32. Note the word CITY here. Moriori 04:11, Jun 15, 2004 (UTC)
Point taken. I've changed Chennai to reflect this; IMO, ranking urban agglomerations makes much more sense is of more lay interest than ranking cities; cities have artificial boundaries delineated mostly out of administrative convenience. Ambarish | Talk 20:16, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)
On the same note, don't you think Thirty most populous cities in the world should be List of cities by population? Why thirty, for instance? Ambarish | Talk 03:01, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I hate the never ending use of the word lists. Lists everywhere! Why not just Cities by population?Moriori 04:11, Jun 15, 2004 (UTC)
  1. Not all lists in Wikipedia are ordered; for instance, you have List of stock exchanges. While Cities by population would make it clear it's a list, Stock exchanges would not. Hence "List of ..."
  • Surely Stock exchanges indicates it is about, er, stock exchanges, especially when linked to from Stock Exchange? It doesn't need List of IMMHO, and neither do most lists in wiki. But, never mind, hopefully the categories will remove many of these abominations. Cheers Moriori 20:48, Jun 15, 2004 (UTC)
  1. The idea, as I understand, is that many of the lists are going to be removed in favour of the new category scheme. Of course, you can't remove ordered lists, but unordered lists, IMO, can go. If Wikipedia has only ordered lists remaining, then perhaps we could (per your suggestion) remove "List of ..."
  2. My crib above was about "thirty". Looks like everyone is adding "their favourite city that happens to be below 30th rank" to the list. Eventually, it'll probably have the top 50 and then the top 100. I wouldn't want to keep moving the article. Ambarish | Talk 20:16, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Indus/Devanagari

Huh. Are there actual scholars who hold that Indic scripts derive from the Indus Valley script? -- कुक्कुरोवाच|Talk‽ 01:42, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

All right, perhaps it's too much to term them "scholars". I'm trying to find a middle ground between what was there originally (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Devanagari&oldid=4147391) and the current revision. A fringe theory, by definition, is not widely held, and IMO, the original version was kind of over-stating the point and thus not NPOV. I've edited it again; tell me if you think it's all right. If not we could discuss it further here. Ambarish | Talk 08:52, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
No, that looks fine; and you're right about the redundancy. -- कुक्कुरोवाच|Talk‽ 09:21, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hijra (India)

To: User:Chancemill, User:Sundar, User:Harikishoreaj, User:Nichalp, User:KRS, User:Ambarish, User:Arvindn

The Hijra article needs some help/comments. If you know more on the subject, please feel free to comment at Talk:Hijra (India). Thanks. --Rrjanbiah 04:27, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I don't think I know much, but I'll see what I can contribute. Ambarish | Talk 18:27, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. --Rrjanbiah 04:42, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

carnatic music

I didn't notice the comments you added in the discussion page before editing - my apologies for the inconvenience.

Please see my response on the discussion page. Thanks.

New phonetic symbol?

Just curious, what is the system of phonetics you used for thamizhan in Tamil people? --Rrjanbiah 08:28, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

If you mean the transliteration format, I used the standard one used in most literature, which AFAIK originated from the University of Madras, but is now used pretty much throughout the world. There's a complementary transliteration schema for Devanagari and other Indic scripts with the nice property that similar sounds have the same Latin representation. IIRC, it's also recommended by the International Phonetic Association. For sample usage, see http://www.penkatali.org/tamil.html Ambarish | Talk 18:28, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Such transliteration is new to me. I think, it is even wrong to call it as transliteration. Also, if we go for IPA phonetics, I think we can't differentiate ள and ழ.--Rrjanbiah 07:18, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Why is it wrong to call it transliteration? Seems to me that is what it is. As for distinguishing ள and ழ, ள is transliterated as ḷ and ழ as ḻ. Ambarish | Talk 12:44, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. --Rrjanbiah 14:00, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)


Note: Add new stuff above this. Please respond at your own talk-page to any comments I make there; I shall be watching your talk page. Likewise, I shall respond at my own talk-page to any comments posted there; I might leave a note in your talk-page though to alert you.

Jimbo Visit

I will be at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign 23 October, 2004, speaking at the ACM Reflections | Projections Conference 2004 (http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/conference/) -

This conference runs from 22. - 24. October 2004; it would be fantastic to have a Wikipedia booth, if I can get volunteers for it.

Do you think you could come? Jimbo Wales 16:22, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Kari?

Thank you Ambarish. I gave an example that was not homophonic, perhaps not a good choice but I could have equally used one that was. Since we are talking about coal perhaps "coke" and "Coke"(TM) would be one. Stating my ignorance first, the reason I harked back to the earlier version making the conjecture in the discussion that the two words were unrelated, was to leave it open to question to anyone who did know. A connection between kari for curry and kari for coal, however obscure, would be interesting and relevant. If there is no connection it would not be. I would be most grateful for you comments Dainamo 18:43, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ram-Man&action=edit&section=new)| talk)

Indian wikipedians' notice board

Thanks for your work on Hindi vowels. You might wish to join Wikipedia:Indian wikipedians' notice board. utcursch 11:02, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)

Seeking you support

I am seeking your support and participation for starting the "Indian Collboration of the Week". Please enlist your support on the page Wikipedia_talk:Indian_wikipedians'_notice_board if you would like to support. Thanks Arunram 08:20, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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