Talk:Paris Hilton

No, Paris Hilton did not voice her character on South Park. Most of the celebrity characters on the show are impersonated (often badly, as the show's opening disclaimer points out), particularly when the portrayal is so unflattering. Pogo747

Image Issues

Is that image realy encylopedia-appropriate? It looks more like a catalog image than an actual photo of Paris...but then I don't know Paris well. Something about the image looks cheesy and a little off-putting. Jwrosenzweig 23:04, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I agree, an actual picture would serve it much better. But in the meanwhile I guess it's ok. Sarge Baldy 23:16, Jan 6, 2004 (UTC)

What's with the Maxim photos of her on the site? Not that pics of her clubbing and doing her thing are any better. --Madchester 19:47, 2005 Feb 20 (UTC)

Disambiguation

I guess there's really no need for this sort of disambiguation:
Paris Hilton should not be confused with The Paris Hilton hotel, located at 18 Avenue De Suffren, Paris 75740, France, which is another cheap public accomodation.
Sad, though<G>-Nunh-huh 22:09, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Sex Video and the Simple Life

Should we mention the connection between the "sex video" thing and the announcement of her reality show thing? Seems the video got a lot of people to check out the farm life show. --Uncle Ed 16:13, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)

For sure. Most people found out who Paris was when the sex video came out. I know I did. The sex video thing was in all the maistream papers. I even saw Zoolander a few years before (which she was in) and had know idea who she was until the sex video came out. dave 01:25, Mar 23, 2004 (UTC)

Sure, they did occur around the same time and if you can put something together on it I think it would fit. Sarge Baldy 05:28, Mar 23, 2004 (UTC)

Rick Salomon

My apologies for screwing up the spelling of Rick Salomon's name. I saw it spelled Solomon in a newspaper and I mistakenly assumed it was misspelled with an "a". I should have done more verification (although I see there are several hundred thousand online references that also misspell it Solomon). MK 05:27, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Acting Career

Since when does Paris Hilton have a "credible" acting career? This isn't even a matter of personal opinion. Her cameo in Zoolander was blink and you'll miss, and all of her cameo scenes in Win a Date With Tad Hamilton! were cut from the movie. A couple cameos and minor roles here and there does not a credible actress make. Most people don't take her seriously.

Whether or not people take her seriously, Hollywood appears to be doing so. She had star billing in House of Wax, and according to IMDB (http://imdb.com/name/nm0385296/) has two other films in post-production. Cleduc 20:36, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Family and other Background

I'm posting this in case there's any further question:

Q. "Is Paris' grandfather Barron Hilton or his brother, Conrad N. "Nicky" Hilton, Jr., 'cause in her book, Paris said Conrad Hilton, Jr., was?"

A. I've looked at Paris' picture book, Confessions of an Heiress: A Tongue-in-Chic Peek Behind the Pose myself, and I would note that she also said, on Page 157, "As I said earlier, it's okay to make up your lineage."

How sad she didn't even mention the name of her grandmother. Perhaps she'd never read it in all the crap that's been written about her. My guess is that Miss Paris has probably given more thought to being an heiress than she has to her family tree.

I've read in several reliable sources that Barron Hilton is her grandfather. There's also the book Paris Hilton: The Naked Truth by George Mair, Chapter 6, "Hilton Family History and Where the Money Came From," which states:

"Two men who had a profound impact on the life Paris Hilton leads today are her great grandfather, Conrad Hilton, and her grandfather, Barron Hilton. Conrad Hilton made the family enormously rich on paper but didn't believe in leaving any money to his heirs. Barron Hilton didn't give a damn what his father thought and circumvented the old man's will and made not only himself rich but his descendants as well, including Paris. If Conrad's will had remained as he left it, Paris today might be asking, 'Would you like fries with that?'"

So, when Conrad Hilton died in 1979 he left most of his wealth to the Catholic Church and other charities, expecting his children to work for theirs. Paris' grandpa, Barron Hilton, contested his father's will and won. Not only did his net worth jump to over $335,000,000, for him and "his descendants," he became the administrator of what the church got. His younger half-sister, Francesca Hilton, daughter of Zsa Zsa, lost her case and got nothing.

Conrad N. "Nicky" Hilton, Jr., was dead since 1969. His family, including wife Patricia, an heiress of Tulsa, Oklahoma, oil millions, got the same from the Conrad Hilton (Sr.) estate as Francesca, nothing. So Paris is not the granddaughter of Nicky and Patricia.

Another source:

Los Angeles Times, Feb. 11, 1964, "Nicky Hilton's Wife Files for Divorce, Custody"

"The second wife of hotel heir Conrad N. (Nicky) Hilton -- former Oklahoma oil heiress Patricia McClintock Hilton -- sued for divorce Monday in Santa Monica Superior Court.

Mrs. Hilton, 26, charged Hilton, 40, with causing her extreme mental and physical suffering. She asked for custody of their children, Conrad Nicholson Hilton, III, 4, and Michael Otis, 2."

So, Conrad Nicholson, III, was born in 1959. Michael was born in 1961. Paris' father's name is Richard "Rick" Hilton. He was born in 1955 and is not either of his 1st cousins.

Another source:

Los Angeles Times, Nov. 7, 1960, "Whole Family in Charger Act",

Under the photo:

"CHEERING for the Chargers are, from left, standing, Mrs. Barron Hilton, William, 12; Barron Hilton, Sharon, 6, and David Alan, 8. Seated are, from left, Richard, 5; Hawley Anne, 10, and Steven, 9."

I'd take most of what Paris, or her ghostwriter, said with a pinch of salt.

FredR 05:20, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Links

Sorry, but I had to delete two links from the page because they were being dis-allowed by the spam filter and I had to revert vandalism. I have had to add spaces to the addresses below or it wouldn't let me post them here either.

http://www.paris hilton.com
http://paris- hilton-video.blogspot.com

[[User:David Johnson|David Johnson [T|C]]] 18:41, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Copyright? Rewrite?

Assuming the subject is really worth an encyclopedia article, it is probably worth better than a cut-and-paste ransom-note rewrite of [1] (http://www.askmen.com/women/models_150/171c_paris_hilton.html), which is what this article appears to be. If anyone has some time and writing ability perhaps they could rewrite this sorry piece of plagiarism before AskMen gets huffy.

If someone wants to really shine I suppose they could try to dig up more pertinent facts than AskMen chose to publish too.

That's Hot

A recent VFD discussion, raised the question if it was possible, to include text from the article Thats hot somewhere in Paris Hilton as it doesn't provide enough info on its own yet. I request you take a look at the following text by User:69.138.186.210 and incorporate any useful info in the article, leaving an attribution on this talk page.

Thats Hot-phrase used by Simple Life Star, Paris Whitney Hilton. It is also common phrase used by teenagers and young adults. Term is commonly used by Paris Hilton on the reality show Simple Life when referring to objects, events, people, or situations Paris thinks are "cool" or in her case "hot". Term could be used for practically anything as does in the Simple Life. After asking a store worker what his name was, Paris replied, "Thats Hot." Today shirts can be bought from the very saying Paris Hilton made popular. Shirts read "Thats Hot" on the front and "You're Not!" on the back. Today the phrase is used by many teenagers when referring to "hot girls", "hot guys", "hot articles of clothing", or even "hot situations." Critcs refer to her as a bimbo and believe she is only using the term to sound young and cool. Paris Hilton changed a saying used by only her to a saying used by many americans in their conversational language. However, others believe she is a strong symbol for females succeeding in a mans world. Many of Paris' fans envy her and as a result change their behavior and conversational language to be closer to hers. After the phrase became mainstream, various opportunities opened up for Paris Hilton. Her reality TV show became a success.Confessions of an Heiress became one of the New York Times Best sellers. Paris Hilton was asked to host several award shows and take roles in several movies. While some use the phrase as means of conversation, others criticize for the amount of generality and lack of explicity. Others refuse to use the phrase because of the life style of founder.

-- Mgm|^(talk) 13:13, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)

I cannot possibly see what value that adds to the article. She has a catchphrase, so? I read it for anything else of value and I see nothing, except possibly the short bit on Confessions of an Heiress. --Golbez 18:52, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)

Hilton's address book, photos, notes stolen

Should I add info about the theft of Hilton's address book, photos and notes from her Sidekick by a T-Mobile hacker? I'm unsure if it should really belong here, the info has been mirrored on a few underground sites and was apparently stolen just yesterday. --Mrmiscellanious 20:18, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, add it, why not? Everyking 20:27, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Alright, added it near the end above links. Someone please make it more encyclopedia-ish (is that a word?) --Mrmiscellanious 22:00, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Not included in our article:

"Aside from her sister, parents, best friend Nicole Richie and her model cousin, Paris's Blackberry is a B-list directory: Cher's son Elijah Blue Allman; Yoko Ono flack Elliot Mintz; Madonna's former partner Guy Oseary" -- user:zanimum

Why is it that people have reverted to previous versions when someone replaced "hacker" with the Seahorse Liberation Army stuff? I just reverted it again since that's what's been done by other users but I wanted to know the reasoning behind it. Dismas 12:43, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

This person/group has claimed in an email to me that they are the hacker(s). When I reverted, I did so because I thought it was spam (the external link was just tossed awkwardly at the beginning of the section, see this diff (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paris_Hilton&diff=10787466&oldid=10787390)). Since then, I've been scratching my head over the situation (I've also been busy IRL, so please pardon me for not bringing this up on talk sooner). Are there any neutral, reputable sources on the incident that actually mention them? - RedWordSmith 00:24, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)

Gay Icon Project

In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:50, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

How come a woman can be gay? Shouldn't she be called lesbian? --83.148.71.11 03:12, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It doesn't say that she's gay, it says that she's a gay icon. See the difference? Additionally, "gay" is an adjective for both sexes. It's normally used as a noun, e.g. "Many gays and lesbians had a celebration outside a Massachusetts court house today...", when referring to the males in the group. Dismas 09:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Spokesperson

Can we add details on her "work" as a spokesperson for various products... --Madchester 23:42, 2005 Mar 25 (UTC)

That's hot

I wrote an article on that's hot before realizing that someone had already written a rather sub-par ditty on it before, only to have it deleted. I figured I'd post here and ask for consensus; I've given four references in the fairly short article....I think the catch phrase is notable enough to deserve its own article. What do y'all think? Mike H 10:46, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)

Joel Spolsky

How to include in the article, the fact, which is relevant to hackers and programmers, the fact that (pictures of) Ms. Hilton were cited by Joel Spolsky, in his seminal article, How Microsoft Lost the API War, as one of the raisons d'etre of the Internet.

Later: I made this comment about 3 months ago. Thanks for answering folks? Was it a silly question?!!

I think the problem is that nobody knows the answer. I for one haven't even read that article, or even heard of it before now. Everyking 18:44, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Money

The article refers to the net worth of descendents of Barry Hilton, or whatever his name was, as being ~380 million dollars. This seems rather low. I thought it was in the billions, i.e. thousands of millions...

Please sign your comments with ~~~~. Also, if you go to Barron Hilton, it has an equal dollar value, so that seems to be right. Apparently, Conrad Hilton didn't leave ANYTHING to his children, but Barron sued and got that amount; it may well be a fraction of the true value Conrad had when he died. --Golbez 01:43, May 11, 2005 (UTC)

Bisexuality

I note someone added a Category-Bisexual tag, which someone else reverted with the edit summary "No evidence". Although the initial poster did not provide any, there is evidence to support the assertion:

In addition to other public statements and cuddly behavior, her hacked sidekick did contain a topless photo of her in an embrace with MTV V-Jay Eglantina Zingg. [2] (http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity/27132004.htm),[3] (http://www.fleshbot.com/sex/straight/celebrity/in-search-of-eglantina-zingg-033783.php)
Numerous sites have associated her with a gay or bisexual orientation. For example: [4] (http://paris.typepad.com/ohlalaparis/2005/02/)

Sure, it is not proof positive, but it seems like sufficiently strong evidence to support the category tag. What does everyone else think? Johntex 17:08, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

She's faking it for media attention.

Plastic Surgery

She has obviously had it. Look at her face. Personally, I find it looks ugly from it. Her plastic surgery should be noted, but looks don't count as evidence (wait... do they?), so maybe somebody has a link about it?

A light bit of vandalism

I didn't want to put npov text in the article, so this shall go here:

I hate this whore, and everything that she stands for.

Now back to your regularly scheduled wikipediaing. jglc | t | c 20:07, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, the talk page is an excellent place for it. Though I sympathize with the sentiment, I have a small critique of your rant: I wasn't aware Paris Hilton stood for anything. Cleduc 20:16, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Her face looks really ugly like some melted barby doll's face. DyslexicEditor 00:40, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Retrieved from "https://academickids.com:443/encyclopedia/index.php/Talk:Paris_Hilton"