User talk:Thefamouseccles

Hello, Thefamouseccles! Welcome to Wikipedia. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you ever need editing help visit Wikipedia:How does one edit a page or how to format them visit our manual of style. Experiment at Wikipedia:Sandbox. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the Village pump. I'm curious, though. Is there a reason for the perplexing fact that you've made all your edits without actually signing in...? Oh yes, and Qapla'! ;) -- Oliver P. 23:28 5 Jun 2003 (UTC)

No reason at all - I just didn't realise that signing on was something that you could do. I stumbled upon Wikipedia while searching on Google for some material on Georgian; when I found that Ubykh and, indeed, the entire family of Northwest Caucasian languages wasn't anywhere to be found, I thought "Oh my!" and did everything I could to remedy that situation. It's for the same reason that my very earliest pages were in plain text wherever I could avoid anything else. ;) BTW: tlhIngan Hol SovlIjmo' Qapla' qajatlh je. {{:) thefamouseccles 04:48 8 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Hi there! I've not been Wiki'ing much lately, but stumbled across your stuff on Ubykh and Abkhaz - I'm fascinated by phonology, particularly of languages at the extremes of inventory size such as !Xu and Rotokas. Would you be interested in working together to construct a phonology chart of !Xu for the article? Drop me an email at pgdt AT comcast DOT net if you're interested... cheers! pgdudda 02:49, 11 Oct 2003 (UTC)


Hello thefamouseccles! I wonder whether Esperanto might be of interest to you. Oh, and, nuqDaq yuch Dapol (my Klingon's a bit rusty).

qatlho', 'ej qay'be'. <<Esperanto>> Hol vIghojpu', 'ach tlhIngan Hol vImaS; tlhIngan Hol ngeD law' <<Esperanto>> Hol ngeD puS. :D I did learn Esperanto for a time, and I found it quite interesting; I particularly liked the idea of Zamenhof's derivational suffixes. Just so long as the Indo-European world (including me!) does realise that it's worth studying in its own right, not as an international auxiliary language. But it's very different from most Indo-European languages, and so an extremely interesting study.


Greetings thefamouseccles! I found your page on Ubykh interesting. I was kind of surprised to find that anyone else had an interest in the language, and still more surprised to see someone who was also interested in Basque, Egyptian, German, and Elvish (all languages I have a smattering of knowledge of, except for German which I can read as long as there's a dictionary handy and can speak a few sentences here and there).

As for me, I first came across Ubykh while reading an old Guiness Book of Records, which listed the language as having the most consonants. Later on I came across an early publication on the language, "Die Sprache der Ubychen", in the journal Caucasica, Vol. IV, p. 65 (1927) by a German scholar named Adolf Dirr. I began translating the German but never got around to finishing it, so I'm not sure how well it comports with the most recent scholarship on the language. I'm pretty sure, however, that Dirr's description of the Ubykh consonants isn't the same as the one you posted.

Anyway, I'm wondering: have you gotten many responses from people who want to learn the language? Do you have study materials prepared for it? I might have some interest in studying, but I'd want to know more about what I'm getting into--it IS pretty complicated and time-intensive, as you well know. Feel free to e-mail me at wesaydti@yahoo.com. Regards.


Hi! I notice you're interested in such exotic languages as Pirahã! Just thought you might be interested in this link, which I've added to the Pirahã article:

"Cultural Constraints on Grammar and Cognition in Pirahã: Another Look at the Design Features of Human Language" http://lings.ln.man.ac.uk/Info/staff/DE/cultgram.pdf

--Trebor1990, 26 June 2004

Thanks for the reference! I'd read some of Dan Everett's stuff before, but have never seen this paper. thefamouseccles 10:58, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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