User talk:P0lyglut

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snoyes 05:38, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)

thanks

P0lyglut 21:43, 2003 Nov 26 (UTC)

Please have a look at Wikipedia:How to edit a page#Minor edits. Thanks, snoyes 03:02, 27 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I'll say it again: Please have a look at Wikipedia:How to edit a page#Minor edits. --snoyes 03:17, 27 Nov 2003 (UTC)

to snoyes: i've just read the link you suggested about the Minor Edit. Specifically, changing even a word should be considered major. Ok. Thanks. P0lyglut 03:32, 2003 Nov 27 (UTC)

Good call on the wu shu vs. gongfu terminology change. Patrick0Moran 07:26, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Please don't mark changes and additions of several paragraphs as minor edits, like in Unix. Thanks. --Shallot 19:33, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Contents

1 on English plurality

6 re: 'Digital commons'

7 Snowballing

8 Manifold

9 Wind turbines picture

10 Image tag

11 Tsunami page

12 MathWorld

13 Error with Single-Handed Dvorak Keyboard Layout Images

14 Request

15 Stalking

16 Reply to your question on my talk page

17 Bipolar coordinates

18 Linking to your own website

on English plurality

Please tell me more about "criterions" being an acceptable alternative plural of "criterion". This is very much news to me. JackofOz 05:07, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)

hi JackofOz. Please see AHD, websters, and or Merriem-Websters at dictionary.com and m-w.com. I have a thing about these English things. For example, i'd use programing, polyhedrons instead of the mainstream alternative, among others. Thanks. English is fascinating, in that there are tons of things that can be rectified, and i think this can be done thru us, with faster and faster results as the internet catapults us into a efficiency and massiveness of communication never imaged possible just a decade back. Xah P0lyglut 23:34, 2003 Dec 8 (UTC)

Cheers for that. I also am an observer of the changing face of English. Plurals from other languages are a real issue, though. On the one hand, just because a word is borrowed from another language, does not mean that we also have to borrow all the associated grammar. Once the word becomes a recognised word in the English language (albeit by adoption), from then on generally speaking we should use the standard English-language way of forming the plural of that word. But on the other hand, old habits die hard. Would you, for example, say 'phenomenons' or 'phenomena'? We say "mediums" for a group of psychics, but "media" for the plural of the other meaning of 'medium'. We use the word 'datum' for a single piece of information, but I've never heard of the plural 'datums', the original Latin plural 'data' still being considered the norm in English. JackofOz 23:03, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Hi JackofOz, i agree with your sentiment. Thanks. Xah P0lyglut 23:34, 2003 Dec 8 (UTC)

The principle should be "an English plural is never wrong." Personally I write criteria, phenomena, axes and theses, but if a student wrote criterions, phenomenons, axises and thesises, I would not correct them. It should not be a requirement to write good English that one knows how to form a Greek plural. (What, for example, is the correct plural of caucus?) Adam 23:26, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Unfortunately, in a few minutes of web searching, I haven't been able to find numbers, so I was going on what I remembered. [1] (http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html) has some numbers. Unfortunately, they are for server software, and Apache runs under multiple platforms. Of course, we could just use server software penetration instead of server OS penetration. As for OS's, [2] (http://www.technewsworld.com/perl/story/32259.html) indicates that Linux's sales are growing. It may be that it is impossible to get a correct overall count of OS usage (e.g. Microsoft is reported as IIS on Linux because web requests to them first go through Linux servers). Anyways, if you can't find any numbers on server OS's, then server software could substitute. After all, it is easier to change and may more accurately reflect what people want to be using. (apologies for the rather incoherent writing style -- I think I'm getting a headache) Paullusmagnus 21:58, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I finally found a number: "41% of the internet-server market and 25% of general business servers" [3] (http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/L/Linux.html) unfortunately, the source is likely to be pro-Linux and it doesn't cite anything else, but it's the first place I can point to a number at all. Paullusmagnus 15:16, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for the findings... Xah P0lyglut 03:05, 2003 Dec 11 (UTC)

The content you added at Encarta was well-needed, thank you for that :) However, the review/editorial style text doesn't sound very encyclopedic, but more importantly doesn't hold well with the Wikipedia:Neutral point of view policy. Please try and keep a neutral point of view in future.

By the way, did you see my response to your concerns on the Dvorak keyboard at my talk page? I wasn't sure exactly how I could act on your concerns.

Thanks :) Dysprosia 01:45, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I've just deleted the misspelt images. Dysprosia 06:47, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC)

You asked on the village pump for your account to be cancelled. If you still want this, I suggest you contact a Wikipedia:developer. If you just want to change your username, please see Wikipedia:Changing username. Angela . 21:49, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Hello! So happy to hear that you enjoyed the articles on Rosicrucians! the articles on Rosicrucians and AMORC will be updated soon and continue being updated for as long as I have something to add. I had a visit at your personal web site and I enjoyed it, it has many interesting sections such as the one about English word usage. With Best Wishes for Peace Profound, Optim 19:06, 31 Dec 2003 (UTC)

just want to say thanks for the many quality math articles you contributed. I enjoyed them extremely. Xah P0lyglut 14:06, 2004 Jan 7 (UTC)

Thank you -- I'm glad someone's reading them. Michael Hardy 21:57, 8 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Garuda

You're welcome! I've put an image of a Balinese depiction of a Garuda on the talk page of this article. Meursault2004 15:40, 5 May 2004 (UTC)

Hi, on your question, I would imagine it would be the same as reverting any other page. Which one did you have in mind, what needs to be done with it, etc.? - Hephaestos|§ 13:39, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

I would if I could, but I was working from a description, not the source. - Nunh-huh 23:17, 11 May 2004 (UTC)

Chinese Phoenix

Glad you like it! And sure, you're welcome to use the image on your site. prat 08:53, 2004 May 18 (UTC)

Caryatids

Yes the photo is by me, and yes feel free to use it with credit to me (and maybe a link to my website (http://www.adam-carr.net)). Adam 23:23, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Helicoid

P0lyglut, I'm glad you liked my cross-cap article. By the way, I expanded the helicoid article you started, and there's one question: what is a trace of a line? ~~Could you define trace (geometry)?~~ --AugPi 01:39, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

There is no specific thing as "trace (geometry)". I just found out that a page in MacTutor (http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Curves/Cissoid.html) links to your web page (http://xahlee.org/SpecialPlaneCurves_dir/CissoidOfDiocles_dir/cissoidOfDiocles.html). That's awesome. But, wait, your site also links to MacTutor! LOL. --AugPi 05:56, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

re: 'Digital commons'

P0lyglut,

Please can I ask that you make the effort to explain what you think is wrong with that paragraph from the Tragedy of the commons article, before you try deleting it again. It is usual to extend that courtesy, especially when there is a difference of opinion with another contributor. So far you have done nothing more than assert that it is 'propaganda'; you have also, unfortunately, used inflammatory words like 'moron' and 'shit' in your edit summaries — I'm afraid I don't find that attitude very helpful.

You can either give your explanations on the Talk page attached to the article, or else you can do it here if you prefer. Thanks. R Lowry 03:49, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I'm on your side on the whole tragedy of the commons thing, I just think you are going about the issue in the wrong way. You might want to look at Wikipedia:Profanity and Wikipedia:No personal attacks. Attacking other Wikipedians using profanity is not a good way to get your viewpoint heard. anthony (see warning) 12:08, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Snowballing

Re: "Removed ridiculous guesses" - if I'd thought it was remotely within the bounds of etiquette I could have justified the 'guess' by saying "Adambisset and his partner enjoy snowballing because..." but I'm not sure that Wikipedia articles are the place to profess sexual predelictions. That's why I made a generalised statement giving a reason why a couple may enjoy the practice. I won't revert the edit if it offends.User:Adambisset|Adambisset]] 01:47, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your response :-) Adambisset 11:01, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Manifold

There isn't much point you adding material several times to this page. If you want to add something, it needs to be more carefully written, for one thing. For example, not Frederic Gauss; it's Carl Friedrich Gauss, as you can easily check on this site. Also there are other places which explain some of these points. Insisting will only waste everyone's time.

Charles Matthews 19:39, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Wind turbines picture

See my user talk Leonard G. 05:44, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Image tag

Hi! Thanks for uploading the following image:

Image:Dvorak_keyboard.jpg

I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status?

You can use {{gfdl}} if you release your own work under the GNU Free Documentation License, {{PD-self}} if you wish to release your own work to the public domain, {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, and so on. Click here for a list of the various tags.

If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know at my talk page where you got the image from, and I'll tag it for you. Thanks so much. Denni ☯ 04:23, 2004 Dec 13 (UTC)

P.S. You can help tag other images at Wikipedia:Untagged_Images. Thanks again.

Tsunami page

I found the image on the Tsunami page to be very informational, and not asinine as you claim Brownman40 07:59, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I would also like to request why you call it that way.
-Henk Poley

Postscript: note the above. Around 2004 dec in the Indian Ocean Tsunami disaster page, there is a image drawing showing a iconic picture representing a person and a scaled ruler of 10 meters, as to give the reader a sence of how high is a wave of 10 meters. This image, is in conjunction in the article that talks about arcane things understood only to seismologiest.

i deleted the image, and people reverted it back a couple of times. Now the image is not there. Observe the fucking moronicity of wikipedians, majority rulez.

Xah Lee 22:52, 2005 Apr 5 (UTC)

MathWorld

Hey, I saw your edit to MathWorld and the ensuing discussion on the talk page. I seem to think there is little chance that MathWorld has large errors since it's also published in hardcopy by the CRC Press (you can read about this dispute at the MathWorld page on wikipedia) which is well respected and has a vested interest in protecting it's reputation. If you could, would you please provide me with some example URLs on MathWorld where there are significant errors so that I may verify them? I have some qualification to verify them myself and for all others I will ask other mathematicians who are greater than I to help verify. If it turns out you're right then all that is needed is a toning down in the wording to confirm to NPOV (yes, I already read the dispute on this at Talk:MathWorld), but if it turns out there are no such examples perhaps the section ought to be eliminated. In any case, thank you for contributing and I hope you'll work with us to make wikipedia the best that it can possibly be.

Cheers,

-08:26, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Error with Single-Handed Dvorak Keyboard Layout Images

Excuse me for saying this, but I think the single-handed Dvorak keyboard layout images you made for the Dvorak Simplified Keyboard article are incorrect. I tried using your images as an on-screen keyboard to type left-handed in Windows XP, and found that the keys didn't match up. So I looked up single-handed Dvorak keyboards, and I found this: Single-Handed Dvorak Alphanumeric Layouts (http://www.pcguide.com/ref/kb/layout/alphaSingle-c.html), which does match up to the Windows XP single-handed Dvorak keyboard layouts.

- 15:22:47 21 April 2005 (UTC)

hi, don't know who you are... but that image is from a keyboard layout for Mac directly downloaded from the official site. dinternational org or com, around 2001. So, i think it is trust worthy. single handed dvorak is not popular and i don't doubt there are discrepencies. Exactly what you mean different? how they differ? the site you gave is not accessible. Xah Lee 15:41, 2005 Apr 21 (UTC)

Sorry, I made an error in my wiki, which is why the link didn't work. I fixed it. Here it is again: Single-Handed Dvorak Alphanumeric Layouts (http://www.pcguide.com/ref/kb/layout/alphaSingle-c.html). Here's a few other websites I found with the same keyboard layout:

Intro to Keyboard Manual (http://www.brandonfla.com/typingtutor/kbdtxt.htm)

Dvorak Keyboards (http://www.fonlow.com/zijianhuang/kp/dvorakint.html)

Dvorak Keyboard Layouts (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q95141/#XSLTH3179121122120121120120) (from Microsoft)

Here's another, but on this site, they have the right and left reversed in comparison to the other few: Dvorak Keyboard (http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DvorakKeyboard)

11:52 23 April 2005

interesting. Thanks for the note. Perhaps add these to the dvorak talk page and see what others say? i don't know much about singled handed dvorak. Perhaps there were revisions? Xah Lee 18:45, 2005 Apr 23 (UTC)

aside from which one being THE standard layout for a moment... i did some comparison, and noticed the one in wiki are actually not that different. The difference is that one has the number pad in 3 columns, while the Microsoft one has 2. Apparently, the one with 3 columns is more convient. So, i think it is a improved version in some way. Xah Lee 00:48, 2005 Apr 24 (UTC)

Where is the Dvorak Talk page?

The other major difference in on the left-handed keyboard layouts, where the numbers are on different sides of the keyboard. 03:20 26 April 2005

The dvorak talk page is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard yes, the MS one has numbers split. That's why i think the current one shown seems to be a improved version.

Request

Please stop putting your opinionated remarks on math articles and linking to a bad article considered for deletion. This is not helpful. Oleg Alexandrov 23:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Stalking

Dear P0lyglut. Could you please explain where I stalked you? Was it in G. H. Hardy where you remove some good words about a book, or was it in Leonhard Euler where I removed your link to the greatest mathematicians article, or later, when I corrected some text you insterted? Please note that I had edited those articles before you, as such it was normal for me to check those articles.

You are right about one thing, I decided to take a look at your contributions, and I fixed a style mistake you made in Gauss map.

However, all these together, do not charaterize as stalking, not how I see the term. (Well, I also voted your greatest mathematicians for deletion after I saw it linked in Leonhard Euler, but that's because it's a bad article, so that one does not count either).

Now, could you please explain what you have against the essay of G. H. Hardy? That would be much appreciated. You can write here, I will keep this on my watchlist. Oleg Alexandrov 20:42, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

i only have issue on G H Hardy case. That is, if one deem my edit of his book to be opinionated, than one shouldn't add the uncritical remark about how great that book is either. Thanks Xah Lee 01:18, 2005 May 1 (UTC)

You have a good point. Usually on Wikipedia POV is bad. However, there is fine a distinction between saying bad things and saying good things. Not that one should pour excessive praise on some subject, but, mentioning a few good words on a book considered by very many mathematicians a classic, should be OK. And besides, as mentioned by the person who reverted you, there is good factual information in that sentence, it says that the book provides insight in the mind of a mathematician. So let that informative and a bit appreciative sentence be there, even if you personally don't like the book. Oleg Alexandrov 02:12, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Reply to your question on my talk page

why did you revert my edits for rambling rose, bipolar coordinate, and Nonfirstorderizability? Xah Lee 07:48, 2005 Apr 30

In the case of bipolar coordinates, despite the fact that what you wrote seemed plausible and perhaps interesting, nonetheless, if we are to judge by the Mathworld article, an external link to which now appears in the bipolar coordinates stub article, what you wrote was incorrect.

If you don't know, please check up real math references before axing. I like to revert the article but am not sure to keep all the format, so it might just be plain text. Xah Lee 01:37, 2005 May 1 (UTC)

Relax, nobody is stalking you. In bipolar coordinates you wrote:

In mathematics, bipolar coordinate is a coordinate system where curves are specified as the locus of points to two fixed points.

Besides poor grammar, your statement is incorrect. One family of curves, in this case, ellipses, is not enough to give you a coordinate system in the plane. You need two families of curves. Oleg Alexandrov 02:23, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

In nonfirstorderizability, the article began with:

In formal logic, nonfirstorderizability is an expression's inability to be adequately captured in standard first-order logic.

You changed it to:

In formal logic, nonfirstorderizability is a term that denote the (presumed possibility) of an expression's inability to be adequately captured in standard first-order logic.

... and you called it a "clarification". But it does not clarify; at best it confuses. The sentence as it was written was perfectly clear. "Presumed possibility" is simply not correct. Also, it is usually better to write "A dog is a animal that barks" than "Dog is a term in zoology that denotes an animal that barks", i.e. it is usually better to write about the thing than about the term that denotes it. Generally, only if there were some special reason to write about the term itself should one do so.

i also added a paragraph at the end. Do you have any basis on the reason you deleted the entire semantic part of my writings? Xah Lee 01:37, 2005 May 1 (UTC)

I'm sorry -- I did not notice the paragraph at the end. I would say, however, that it is highly philosophically POV. Michael Hardy 03:32, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

In Rambling Rose you wrote:

Rambling Rose' is a flower with tech name R multiflord Thunb.

Perhaps correct, at least if one fixes the typos and replaces the word "tech" with something more appropriate, and italicizes the taxonomic name. But the article as it stood was about a movie. These two topics don't belong in the same article. So maybe this article should be moved to Rambling Rose (movie) and a new article started titled rambling rose about the flower. Michael Hardy 22:25, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

before deleting a vandal's work, one better be sure. At the very least, hack only articles close to your knowledge. Thanks. Xah Lee 01:37, 2005 May 1 (UTC)

I don't think this discussion has anything to do with vandals. Michael Hardy 02:54, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Bipolar coordinates

Xah, I thought you were on Wikipedia long enough to know that one should write (r₁,r₂) instead of (r1, r2), and that important concepts mentioned in an article should be links. I mean it is nice you contribute new articles, but a bit of attention to the detail does not hurt either. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov 20:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Linking to your own website

I've asked you about this before. Please do not link to your own website. There is clearly a conflict of interest if you add links to your own website. If you feel your links will contribute to the article, post your request to the talk page and someone else will do it for you, if they feel the links are appropriate. Dysprosia 08:28, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

advice noted. Xah Lee 19:52, 2005 Jun 21 (UTC)

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