User talk:Opera hat

Contents

1 Whig Government 1846-1852 2 British Governments 3 Uncle Fred 4 Love Among the Ruins and other things 5 Attorney-General for Ireland/Attorney General for Ireland

Whig Government 1846-1852

I notice that you seem to have accidentally skipped the Secretary and Under-Secretary for War and the Colonies in this one. I can put in the Secretary myself, but I don't know the Under-Secretary. john k 04:46, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Whoops, sorry. Sorted.

Yes, I was thinking about that as I was doing it. My basic thought was that when you're the "Duke of Something" you naturally use the article, while if you're "Viscount Something" you don't. But then for the Earls and Marquesses without "of" in their title I just did the Earl and marquess standard. Which do you think would be the better way to standardize? john k 23:10, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

As a note, the definite article isn't used when it's a courtesey title (at least, we've been playing it that way). Mackensen (talk) 23:19, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Oh yes, that too. By the way, on the government pages, is there any reason why all of the non-naval lords of the admiralty haven't been listed? Weren't they politicians who came and went with the government? john k 00:36, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

So you think just remove the articles? In terms of the civil lords of the admiralty, the current situation seems to list only one in each government. How does that work? john k 23:44, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. I've been trying to compile a list similar to the one you made for the Duke of Wellington's 1828-1830 administration (in a word document currently), and was uncertain what to do about lords of the admiralty. Currently, my list is missing the Judge Advocate General, the Lord Advocate, the Solicitor General for Scotland, the Attorney and Solicitors General for Ireland, the Vice-Chamberlain, Treasurer and Comptroller of the Household, Captain of the Gentlemen Pensioners, Captain of the Yeomen of the Guard, and Master of the Buckhounds. At some point I'll try to look these up in Hayden's book of dignities, but if you had those, that'd be useful. john k 02:23, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Well, I guess my situation with Hayden's is considerably better than yours - I have access to it at my university library. Sadly, and rather absurdly, given the limited interest in it, it is a reference book that can't be taken out - this is particularly absurd given that one can take out things like the Complete Peerage and so forth from my university library. At any rate, thanks for the help - I'll try to figure it out on my own - most of the lists in the book should ultimately find their way into Wikipedia, I think. john k 02:36, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

British Governments

Hi, I thought you should know I've created a List of British Governments to bring together all of the good steady work that's been done on those pages. I've also put up succession boxes on the pages, which I hope have also made the history easier to navigate. Thanks for putting this info up.--Pharos 01:35, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

BTW, I've copied from Twentieth Century British Political Facts and added Liberal Government 1905-1915 and Coalition Government 1915-1916. Any help in filling out the ones I didn't identify would of course be appreciated. john k 02:31, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Uncle Fred

I noticed you moved Frederick Twistleton to Lord Ickenham. While the normal convention for literary characters is to use the most common name (in this case Uncle Fred), if you'd prefer his article to be titled like an actual peer's, the convention is Frederick Twistleton, 5th Earl of Ickenham, to which I have now moved the article. User:Rdsmith4/Sig 23:15, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Love Among the Ruins and other things

gack! ANOTHER love among the ruins! thanks for adding to the disambig page. also, noticed you are interested in the peerage -- have you ever read A Distant Mirror, about Enguerrand de Coucy? Katefan0 20:34, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

Attorney-General for Ireland/Attorney General for Ireland

I was checking whether their should be a dash included in the AG for I's title. Rather than rely on secondary sources I examined primarily documents (ie, legislation). It would appear that the their is a dash in the AG for I, and in Solicitor-General for Ireland, also a dash for the Free State's Attorney-General, but no dash for the post 1937 Irish Attorney General. The complexities of dashes, eh! FearÉIREANN 22:28, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)