User talk:Morven

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Thanks for the Warm Welcome

Glad you did not mind the spelling changes, being brand new here, I felt kind of bold making them, but my fingers were itching to fix it. I also fixed up the other level pages (that I could think of). I think I'll like it here, have started a work list (in the area of perennial plants). Mia Goff 12:43, May 9, 2005 (UTC)

Quotes

In your recent edit to Ford GT90, you changed curly quotes (‘ => ‘ ’, “ ”) to straight quotes (' ', " ") and labelled your edit “(removing "smart quotes")”. But lsquo etc. are not “smart quotes”; smart quotes are when you type straight quotes and your word processor automagically inserts the appropriate version of curly quotes. It's also used to refer to Microsoft's proprietary, non-standard codepoints for curly quotes. But lsquo etc. are not proprietary, and not non-standard—in fact, they're part of the HTML standard. I agree it would be nicer to have the correct Unicode character in the text, but en.wikipedia doesn't support Unicode editing, so they would appear as 香 or whatever, which is pretty ugly. So that leaves lsquo as a way of producing typographically appropriate quotes. What's the problem? --Macrakis 14:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, and your pointer to the style manual. I do agree that the HTML entities are ugly and hard to read. A few lsquo's here and there are nothing compared to topic pages which have continuous text in entities, numerical entities no less, e.g. Greek alphabet. I wonder when we're going to upgrade to a full Unicode system so that these problems go away. It is ridiculous to be using typewriter-level typography in 2005. And I find it a waste to be entering straight quotes when eventually someone is going to have to go through and upgrade them (or maybe someone has good "smart quotes" technology to do it in batch). It looks awfully unprofessional now. But you're right, the style guide currently requires straight quotes. Blech. Any suggestions on how we can push for full Unicode editing? --Macrakis 16:39, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Public_Broadcasting_Service

I have moved the two competing move proposals into Talk:Public_Broadcasting_Service please adjust you vote to a support of one one the proposals. --Philip Baird Shearer 21:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Spacing after a period

Adding a second space after a period is a throwback to the typewriter days, used to add clarity to text typed in a fixed-width typeset. According to nearly every style manual, you should place only one space after a period in all text that is not to be displayed in a fixed-width typeset. -CasitoTalk 04:36, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

My response to that: tough. HTML renders any string of one or more spaces as one space in any case, so there is no difference in the rendered output. Additionally, two spaces after a period renders end-of-sentence markers easier to search for and distinguish from the point when used to show abbreviation. One notes that the tense uses you fixed in CHMSL were your own, by the way, not mine. —Morven 04:49, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)

Audi template

Whoops! The stub template must have been removed between my loading the page and my editing it - I went to where the stub-template was on the page and removed a template - assuming it was the correct one. My appologies for this, I'll check closer next time I do some more stub clearing. Thryduulf 21:56, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Personal water craft

Thanks again for helping out with this article. The unfriendly anon is using many IPs to keep deleting all references to pollution or emissions. Page protection should be the last recourse, but it may be required in this case. Any other ideas? Cheers, -Willmcw 14:39, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

disrupting wikipedia policy vote

You voted once for the policy at Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point. Despite a 75% support that vote was rejected by the minority. A new vote has been called with a two week limit at Wikipedia talk:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point. Please take a moment to participate. Thanks. - Tεxτurε 16:56, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

German Wikipedia

Dear Morven, welcome to the german Wikipedia! I found we have pretty much in common, even our digicams are from the same manufacturer ;-) If you have any questions or wishes concerning the german section feel free to ask me. Best regards -- Stahlkocher 09:13, 16 May 2005 (UTC) aka de:Benutzer:Stahlkocher

Dear Morvon, just ask, I will help! -- Stahlkocher 17:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)


Public Domain, GDFL, Wikipedia (or is it "creative"?) commons... I am confused, please help !

Hello, Morven.

Thank you for your message in my user page, which I discovered today. I must say I am still confused with all the possible options to tag a picture. What I would really like to do is :

  • If somebody wants to use any of my pictures as, for instance, a screen background for his/her personal use, or send it to friends, this looks quite OK to me; after all, the more useful I can be for the community, the better. That is why I want to be sure that there is no commercial use of them.
  • That being said, I also depend on my art to make a living, so I would like to be sure that what I put in the public domain are the circa 600-pixel wide reproductions I am uploading here, and not of course the full-sized original themselves. While this seems clear, I am not a lawyer and I hope I am not too mistaken.

I am going to read the links you sent me, and try to undersand what I can. Thank you for your help. Gilles Larrain 16:35, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Horsepower

I wasn't sure where to put this fairly generic question for maximum appropriate coverage of those in the know. Then I thought that you might be the ideal person to ask.

I noticed that Mercedes-Benz C-Class had hp values but no kW values. Since it is German, I researched the official websites and found kW values. I was a little confused that the google matched the official conversion for the US values but not the european values. Then I noticed that the factor was 0.745 on one side of the Atlantic and 0.736 on the other. I had heard that there are different versions of horsepower but I did not know that it was quite so ambiguous within a brand. In my edit summary I put a note to indicate my uncertainty about what was going on and in the text of the article I indicated my belief that the US 'hp' value and the non-US 'hp' values were different. A subsequent editor has attempted to clarify this but I am not sure if the clarification is accurate.

Can you take a look at this for me please? Am I correct in my belief that 'horsepower' is not always the same number of watts? If this is true, then it applies to a lot of articles. We may need to clarify each 'hp' just as we need to do with 'gallon'. If there is a good place for discussing this to get widespread opinion, I would be delighted if you could let me know, or simply take it there and indicate here. I am interested in your thoughts. Thanks. Bobblewik  (talk) 10:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

PS/KW issue: In many euro-countries we have slightly different hp-values. The factor 0,736 is suitable for german DIN-hp (or DIN-PS). -- Stahlkocher 15:24, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
Am I correct in believing that most non-UK European countries tend to the German PS standard when quoting 'horsepower', in recent years? In older documents, of course, every nation had its own horsepower standard ... —Morven 15:30, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
I guess so. Probably italy had a different factor, but i have no documents at hands to proof this. -- Stahlkocher 19:44, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
After some research I have discovered the there is a European Directive on this: 80/1269/EEC (and modified by: 88/195/EEC, 89/491/EEC, 97/21/EC and 1999/99/EC).
This Directive harmonises national legislation on the method of measuring engine power that must be used to indicate the engine power of a vehicle type.
Henceforth, no Member State may refuse to grant EEC type approval or national type approval in respect of a vehicle, or refuse or prohibit the sale, registration, entry into service or use of a vehicle on grounds relating to its engine power, if this has been determined in accordance with the Annexes to the Directive.
So perhaps the method of measurement itself has been harmonised in Europe, or will harmonise. I hope that somebody can make something of that.

(Please continue discussion in Talk:Horsepower) Bobblewik  (talk) 01:10, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Photos

You got some awesome photos there, man! Looks like a great day for a Ford fan! --SFoskett 20:42, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

Limited Geographic Scope of Wikipedia:Fair use

Thank you for the advice re. tagging without comment. I have added an explanation in Wikipedia talk:Fair use. My concern is indeed applicability to a non-US user uploading a picture originally copyrighted outside the United States, as noted in my edit summary. I hadn't bothered explaining because I thought it would be obvious when flagged. The article makes many exclusive mentions of the US and the international debate was already on the talk page. --Yannick 21:47, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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