User talk:Earl Andrew

hey folks, talk to me here.

REGARDING IMAGES, PLEASE READ

This is a note to everyone doing the image stuff. Any maps or photos I have uploaded are {{PD-self}}, except for photos of politicians which are {{CanadaCopyright}} if they are MPs or {{OntarioCopyright}} if they are MPPs; or logos which are {{logo}}. Thank you, all posts on my talk page about image tags will be ignored and deleted. I have learned my lesson I will tag everything from now on. Cheers. Earl Andrew 03:45, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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Ottawa high schools

I have created a test case for putting school contents by district at Ottawa-Carleton district school board. Why I have done this is explained further on my user page. Anyway, I recall that there were a number of Ottawa area high schools deleted and also that you may have had a hand in them. I would appreciate it if you would put the information that was removed in the district article, where I doubt that anyone will have a problem with it. Thanks, The Steve 14:46, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

Canadian election wikiproject?

Hi there. I know that you are a regular contributor to Canadian election topics, and I was wondering if you thought it would be a good idea to create a Wikiproject to standardize some of these articles? --timc | Talk 02:51, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Make sure to refer to, and expand, Wikipedia:election and make note of best practices there. When you standardize try to copy the best practices identified in existing articles. It always makes more sense to copy the aspects of articles that they uniquely do best, than to try to come up with one template or straitjacket. Election coverage will always evolve, so just make note of what each article is doing well, so the next election can copy it.

Liberal election results

Geez you're fast. Thanks for completing this table. Will you be doing the other parties? Regards, Kevintoronto 22:22, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I probably will eventually. Earl Andrew 22:31, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

If it would help, I could e-mail you the spreadsheets I've been using. Also, I don't know if we really need to put in the recent election at the bottom of the national table as you've just done for 1972 -- after all, all of the elections are now in a box at the top of each article, and the preceding and following are at the bottom of the article, so putting these in a third time seems like overkill, doesn't it? Regards, Kevintoronto 22:58, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Regional Municipalities

Just to clarify, what I'm not clear on is why you would move Sudbury and Hamilton-Wentworth, but leave Ottawa-Carleton and Haldimand-Norfolk as RM of Name. I also have to point out that if "most common name" is a valid criterion, having grown up there I can unequivocally vouch for the fact that Sudbury RM was never used; it was always RM of Sudbury. I know the same pertains in Ottawa; if you purposely left Ottawa as RMOC because that was the more commonly used designation, then Sudbury definitely falls in the same category. (If you just left it because it slipped your mind, though, then I have to admit that I don't really care as long as a consistent rule -- either "most common name" or strict "Name Regional Municipality" -- is applied. Switching one but leaving the other is the part that actually bugs me about it.) Bearcat 01:28, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Gheeeze. That was ages ago. Ya could've said something before now, eh? Bearcat 03:58, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
There is a need to deal with the fact that borders of places change when they become "regional municipalities". That is, the placed called "Toronto" in 1997 is not the placed called "Toronto" in 2000. See m:spacetime DTD for some related issues.

License ?

HI, could you tell me the license of Image:Quemtl3.PNG ? thanks in advance. Tipiac 11:04, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Someone used also Image:Hack.jpg on french, I added the tag GFDL, like for the previous pic. Thank you for theses pics. Tipiac 23:09, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
And did the same for Image:Curlingshoes.jpg Tipiac 23:10, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
And the same for Image:Curlingsheet.jpg . If there's a problem, just tell me. Tipiac 23:11, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Again one : Image:Curlingscore.jpg Tipiac 23:13, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
and Image:Curlingrock.jpg
more Image:Quehcn.PNG Image:Quelam.PNG Image:Quelav.PNG Image:Quelaj.PNG Image:Quelhy.PNG Image:Quelmt.PNG Image:Queljc.PNG Squallwc 07:40, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Image:BROOlogo.jpg

Hello! Thanks for uploading Image:BROOlogo.jpg. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) Thanks! Schissel 00:39, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)

RFC pages on VfD

Should RFC pages be placed on VfD to be deleted? I'm considering removing Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Slrubenstein, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jwrosenzweig and Wikipedia:Requests for comment/John Kenney from WP:VFD. Each of them was listed by CheeseDreams. Your comments on whether I should do this would be appreciated. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:37, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

eh? Earl Andrew 03:39, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Image copyrights

Hi! Thanks for uploading Image:Ottawacoa.jpg. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much, Edwin Stearns | Talk 18:32, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)


Unverified images

Hi! Thanks for uploading the following images:

I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GNU Free Documentation License, {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know at my talk page where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk, automation script)]] 04:30, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)

P.S. You can help tag other images at User:Yann/Untagged_Images. Thanks again.

Also

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    seems to be outdated according to its talk page, and it doesn't have any source/copy information. Did you make it?

your are right these shananigans must stop about Belinda Stronach

That user(70.49.148.143)re-moved social democratic out of the Belinda Stronach page but I put it back but SimonP won't stop the editing I even reason with him but he won't stop. In Newmarket-Aurora most moderate, socially progressive and social democratic voters did voted for Belinda Stronach and some people hope that Belinda will walk across the floor to the NDP not only that Belinda will keep the NDP sharply to the left but a better vote turn out for the NDP by next election. There is a strong posabilaty if Belinda is in the NDP Cabinent Then Jack Layton will be the Leader of the opposition or maybe Prime Minister (A 1st in the history for the NDP)- michaelm.

As much as I like Belinda for social progressiveness, I cannot possibly see her crossing the floor to the NDP. As much as I like the NDP, I'd rather see her climb to the top of the Conservative Party and become leader some day and eventually Prime Minister. If you have any proof of your claims, I would like to see them. Earl Andrew 19:48, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Ok Earl Andrew Belinda is not happy with the Conservatives and she should not trust Stephen Harper and the Conservative caucus. Belindas views,ideas and her values are more like a social democrat. And she is thinking about crossing the floor to the NDP. Jack Layton need her in the NDP caucus like yesterday - michaelm

Do you have any proof of this? Earl Andrew 06:31, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Not yet but Keep an eye on the news media Belinda Stronach will walk a cross the floor to the NDP.

Well when she does, we will change the page for sure. Earl Andrew 06:57, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

would you please unlock the Belinda Stronach page the truth must come out - michaelm

It is not time yet to make such a move. Earl Andrew 08:46, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Category:The Greatest Canadian

I was just in the process of de-populating this category, and I thought my bot was malfunctioning, but then I noticed that you were reverting the edits. This category was listed on WP:CFD and approved for deletion, presumably because it duplicates the list in the article The Greatest Canadian, which is annotated. If you want this category kept for some reason, you will need to bring it up there. If it's safe for me to go ahead and de-populate it, please leave me a message. Thanks! -- Beland 00:52, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The discussion on [[WP:CFD] was deleted in the normal course of cleanup and de-listing. I have restored it so you can read others' comments. -- Beland 01:08, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Category:Coastal towns of Canada

Hi! I see that you have created a Canadian subcategory for Category:Coastal towns but Montrealais and I have noticed several issues with many of the communities being added to this subcategory. I will highlight two which I feel are misleading:

  • Many of the communities being added to this subcategory are not "towns".

The following examples from the subcategory are cities: Charlottetown, Sydney and Campbellton. Similarly Chester is a village, and Falmouth is not even a town (although the author of the article stated it is a village) but in fact is a "dispersed rural community".

  • Many of the communities being added to this subcategory are not situated on Canada's three coasts.

I realize that many people now refer to the Great Lakes as being Canada's (or the United States') "fourth coast" (mostly as it relates to shipping, the St. Lawrence Seaway, and the marketing efforts of lakeshore communities) and even the Wikipedia article on coast states that a large lake may have a "coast", but I have found very few geoscientists who support this notion. I had read that NOAA apparently introduced the term for the Great Lakes as a means for some of their scientists to qualify for additional federal research funding, but that is purely conjecture. The problem here is defining what is a "large" lake - the issue could become very subjective, depending on one's particular locale.

To keep things objective, The Concise Oxford English Dictionary defines a coast as 1. the part of the land adjoining or near the sea. Some other definitions can be found at Global Oceans (http://www.globaloceans.org/story/icm_coast.html).

I would suggest that communities downriver of Trois-Rivières on the St. Lawrence River could be considered both coastal and riverine, however the only communities in southern Quebec that are truly coastal are those on the south coast of the Gaspé peninsula (ie. on Bay of Chaleur), communities on the Magdalen Islands, and communities on the Côte-Nord that are east of Sept-Îles (or possibly Havre-St-Pierre). Obviously communities situated directly on Hudson, James and Ungava bays are all coastal as well.

The Great Lakes is a bit murkier, given the fact that someone has included large lakes along with oceans for the definition of a coast. At any rate, the only Ontario communities that can be considered having ocean coasts that I can think of are obviously all situated on Hudson/James Bay: Moosonee, Moose Factory, possibly Galeton, Fort Albany, Kashechewan, Attawapiskat, possibly Lake River, possibly Peawanuck, and Fort Severn.

I would suggest that for Ontario communities located on the shores of the Great Lakes (and those communities in New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota), it would be best to create a category called "Towns on Great Lakes shorelines" or something to that effect. I also wouldn't mind seeing the source that the author/editor of the coast article used for adding large lakes into the mix since so many reference sources only assign the definition with respect to oceans, but that's another issue entirely...

Cheers, Plasma east 04:47, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Image:Restoule.JPG

Thank you for uploading the above image. It is currently tagged {{unverified}}. Can you please tag with the appropriate copyright notice and cite the source if possible. Thanks, EyeBall 18:56, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thousands of images have no copyright tags. You can help!

Image tag

Hi! Thanks for uploading the following images:

I notice they currently don't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to each to let us know their copyright status?

You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GNU Free Documentation License, {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, and so on. Click here for a list of the various tags.

If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know at my talk page where you got the image from, and I'll tag it for you. Thanks so much. Denni 04:23, 2004 Dec 13 (UTC)

P.S. You can help tag other images at Wikipedia:Untagged_Images. Thanks again.

Source images

What raw data/images are you using to generate arbitrary maps of BC with? Roleypolinde 03:36, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Your Yukon map

I am very impressed by your Yukon map of November 26th. I have tried creating some maps of my own. But I would like to learn how to make better maps. Can you give some hints for what tools and techniques you used on that map? Thanks, and congratulations. Geo Swan 20:05, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Maps

Like the above user, I was impressed by Image:Britishempire1921.PNG. Could you please let us know how you created it? I'd like if you could make a map of all regions which were at some point in their history governed from London. Nicholas 19:22, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I did my own version, and re-uploaded yours to Commons:
Nicholas 01:09, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Manitoba riding names

Earl: Unless you have any strong objections, I plan to revert the Russell and Assiniboia pages to their previous titles. (There used to be a provincial riding in Ontario called Russell, and I believe there was a riding in Saskatchewan called Assiniboia -- simply calling the Manitoba ridings "provincial electoral districts" doesn't quite cover all bases). I think there might be a similar problem with Springfield and St. Johns ...

(Thanks for catching the Swan River title, though.) CJCurrie 05:37, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)



Gaymap.png

Hello. Just thought I'd let you know you forgot to include California on that map. California now as a marriage equivalent under a domestic partnership. lol It's pretty much the same exact thing.

Edit summary

Hello. Please provide an edit summary. Thanks and happy edits. Hyacinth 02:28, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Mississauga, Ontario

Thanks for providing the infobox, it looks great. silsor 05:11, Jan 12, 2005 (UTC)

Quicky political request

Hey EA. Might I trouble you for a quicky move... Liberal Party of British Columbia to British Columbia Liberal Party. The latter is the registered name at Elections BC (http://www.elections.bc.ca/reg/polpartiesreg.htm), and a past edit to fiddle with redirects on the BCLP page is preventing a quick fix on my part.

Thanks in advance -The Tom 03:20, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)


Hi Earl: I'm glad I read to the end of the page first. I'd like to use a copy of your Manitoba map and mark on it Manitoba Hydro generating stations and the Nelson River Bipole transmission lines. Do you see any concerns here? It's probably easier to use your map than try to get permission to use the map included in the MH annual report, which I'll use as a reference. (Of course I'll identify the map source)

  --Wtshymanski 03:51, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)


PEI seating plan

Are you sure the Govt sits on the left in PEI?

Yes, I am positive. PEI and Newfoundland in fact. Earl Andrew 21:56, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

You wouldn't happen to have a copy of the seating plans do you?

No, but you may try their websites. I can be certain though, as I recall it when PEI had their last election (they specifically mentioned it) and when I quizzed my father, he knew the answer because he remembered it from when he went to PEI. Earl Andrew 22:04, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

thanks

Canadian electoral districts: source?

I had been putting Template:Unreferenced tags on new articles without them, saw a pile of these and then realised it would be more efficient to come to your talk page and ask you to put sources on articles (as per Wikipedia:Cite sources directly :-) Do please continue with this series, of course! - David Gerard 03:21, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Because everything should by default (even if refs are nothing like as common as they should be), and it's good practice in general, as per Wikipedia:Cite sources. Imagine someone putting in bogus information - a checkable, verifiable reference is a vital tool - David Gerard 03:29, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)


ACCIDENTAL vandalism

I destroyed by mistake the English version of page ATC code A02 (overwrite to translate into french; I tought I was in the French section.
Please restore the previous English version
I am very sorry

Eras-mus 23:46, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)



Bob Wood

Just FYI...the Bob Wood who was at Bob Wood (Ontario provincial politician) isn't the same Bob Wood referenced in Nipissing (electoral district); I've had to re-disambiguate them. Bearcat 01:18, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Canadian postal code lists

Hey, Earl! That was a great idea you came up with, matching neighbourhoods to forward sortation areas. If you have not noticed yet, I took your idea and applied it to the FSAs in Vancouver, B.C. Nice! Denelson83 03:26, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Yes I did notice, good job! Earl Andrew 03:37, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
So, you gonna finish giving the M's the neighbourhood treatment? Denelson83 07:45, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. Denelson83 09:28, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Never mind. I finished it myself. ;) Denelson83 19:09, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Todd Staffaroni

Any particular reason why you consider the Todd Staffaroni link on Curling to be "suspicious"? A quick Google turns him up on several lists of "famous curlers"... Alfvaen 19:07, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC)

You're right, it does seem that any page that lists Todd Staffaroni does have the exact same list of players as on the Wikipedia page. On first blush I thought that the Wiki article writer had used one of those as the source, but it could have been the other way around. I don't have any personal knowledge of the existence, and certainly Kerry Burtnyk, for instance, shows up on a lot more pages. The only legit page with Staffaroni is http://www.stpaulcurlingclub.org/schedules/1st_half/thu450.html , so he might be a real curler but not a real famous curler. Alfvaen 04:44, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)

Billings

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I happened to be at the Billings Bridge Transitway Station the other day, and took a photo. I now discover I probably shouldn't have bothered because you already added pictures to that article. However I do feel my picture, seen on the right, turned out somewhat better better than the ones that are there now. Mostly this is just because I was there on a bright and sunny day. Would you object if I replaced one of your photos? - SimonP 14:13, Feb 12, 2005 (UTC)

Cumberland Ontario

That site is wrong. They were called "Municipality of Cumberland" up until amalgamation because they could never inc as a City because they didn't have the population, and felt that marketing themselves as a "Township" was bad to attract new residents. So they changed their name. Spinboy 07:35, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Student Groups

When you have a second, if you have a second, could you glance over Canadian Federation of Students and Canadian Alliance of Student Associations? I'm looking for a second opinion for an NPOV check. Thanks. --Spinboy 07:45, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Federal elections charts

I’d like to get some consensus on what to do about colours in the elections charts, but I don’t want to get into a revert war, so I’m asking people to express their opinions here before any changes are made. Since you have contributed to these pages, I’m inviting your comments. I am initiating this discussion because some of the colours that are currently being used are too dark for some monitors so that it is difficult to read the text. The point of adding colours to the charts is to make it easier for readers to derive information from the charts. This goal is foiled by using colours dark enough to obscure the text. The Wikipedia style guide is clear on the issue:

Use colour sparingly. Computers and browsers vary: you cannot know how much colour is presented on the recipient's machine if any. Wikipedia is international: colours have different meaning in different cultures. Too many colours on one page make them look cluttered and unencyclopedic. Use the colour red only for alerts and warnings.

So let’s choose some colours that are light enough that red Wilkilinked text and blue Wikilinked text are both easy to read through.

Please join the discussion at: Talk:Canadian federal election results since 1867. Thanks, Kevintoronto 17:23, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I have set up a voting scheme at Talk:Canadian federal election results since 1867, and would like your views. Regards, Kevintoronto 22:36, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Votes for deletion

You're welcome. (I'm an ex-Ottawan, so these things interest me.) Samaritan used to keep the Canadian VfD list up-to-date, but he hasn't been around for a while. I think he was flamed pretty badly. I hope that he hasn't left us because of that. I may try to scan the VfD list to tkae over that job, but I don't know if I have the patience for it. Kevintoronto 19:25, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Carleton University Students' Association

I was wondering if perhaps we can collaborate on this? It desperately needs help so it doesn't end up on vfd. In reards to your thanks, you are welcome. I know how you feel. --Spinboy 05:08, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

No, I'm a student at Athabasca University but I live in Ottawa. I think I created the article. But I can't find much on Google about the CUSA. Are you a CU student? --Spinboy 05:33, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I was poking around their website, but I didn't find any useful information. --Spinboy 21:07, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Scott Tournament of Hearts

That was one hell of a shot for Manitoba, huh? I was rooting for Ontario, but I liked what I saw from the Manitoba team. Both teams had some cute curlers, though. ;) Curling rocks! —Mar·ka·ci:2005-02-28 01:24 Z

2005 World Women's Curling Championship

Got your comment. I didn't realize that the qualifying in the ECC only qualified the country and not necessarily the team. I updated the list to agree with [1] (http://www.worldcurling.org/CurlHome/Results/2004-2005/WCC-W/default.asp), but the ones that are listed there appear to be the same as the ones that won in the ECC. Sweden, Norway, Scotland, and China are the ones that aren't listed there (along with the US and Canada, but I do know who qualified in those). --timc | Talk 01:21, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

WP:RM

132.205.15.43 has suggested a number of moves. To which you have replied on both the WP:RM pages and the talk pages. In line with the consensus reached on [[WP:RM] (see WP:RM straw poll) I have moved your comments from the WP:RM page to the talk page. To make it easy for the administrator to decided on the consensus (or lack of it) please state Opposed (or Support) in the first section on the talk pages. At the moment you seem to be Opposed by you have not stated that in an easy to read format. Sorry to be a pain, but this is a new procedure and we are still working out the wrinkles Philip Baird Shearer 11:44, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

election 1988

The image you made for the election page that shows the Hof C after the election may inaccurate if you're trying to show the seating. I have made an alterate and put it in the talk page. It may not be perfect but I believe it may be better. Please tell me what you think. talk e1988

MS123 22:31, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Wiki meetup

I'm still debating that, but considering it's Easter weekend (which I forgot about,) I'm thinking of cancelling it. What do you think? You can also contact me via the contact organizer feature. We should seek out all Ottawa Wikipedians and leave a note on their talk page about the Meetup. --Spinboy 20:32, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

So far I think we'll go ahead, unless something changes, and if it does, you'll get an email. *Goes to find every Wikipedian from Ottawa.* --Spinboy 20:46, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I found quite a few on the Wikipedians/Canada board, and left notes on their talk pages. I also left a note on the Canadian Wikipedians Notice Board. Thanks for the list, I'll head on there next. --Spinboy 21:39, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Notes posted on all those talk pages. :-) --Spinboy 22:10, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Anywhere else you can think of to advertise the meetup? --Spinboy 22:22, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I did. --Spinboy 22:36, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
My french is pretty bad, how is yours? --Spinboy 22:43, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Can you read and write it well enough to search the French Wikipedia? --Spinboy 22:51, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Messages left. Thanks dudette. :-) --Spinboy 23:20, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

So far Jord has joined, but he can't come this weekend as he's out of town. So far seems like this might work. We'll see how many sign up in the next few days. --Spinboy 01:08, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the new name! We have 2 so far for Sat, you and me, Jord is a maybe so far. I'm really excited to meet you. --Spinboy 03:46, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Yes Earl, all the details are on the meetup site. --Spinboy 04:55, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
We'll be flirting with all the cute guys in the bookstore. Do you use any of them IM programs? --Spinboy 05:58, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sinage

I printed up a table-top sign for the meetup. Now just to get people out there. :-) --Spinboy 23:22, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Gay rights worldwide

I noticed the map you created concerning the legal status of gays and gay unions worldwide here, on the commons (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Laws_on_homosexuality.PNG). Would you mind updating it, now that California has civil unions? I know that you'll have to update it soon for Canada anyway, but it's nice to be current. See Same sex marriage for more info. Thank you for your time -- if you can't do it, I'll ask someone else with more expertise editing images than I! --Zantastik 06:04, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)


More schools on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion

As of March 25, 2005, there are an additional (6) articles listed for deletion under the POV notion that schools are non-notable (even though this is invalid reasoning as per the Wikipedia deletion policy). Please be aware that the following schools are actively being discussed and voted upon:

In response to this cyclical ordeal, a Schoolwatch programme has been initiated in order to indentify school-related articles which may need improvement and to help foster and encourage continued organic growth. Your comments are welcome and I thank you again for your time. --GRider\talk

three-letter codes

I'm not sure why you mention IOC codes, most of the usages of these templates are in political articles, eg European parliament pages.

I'd actually suggest going to full spelled-out names, eg Template:CROATIA, to make it foolproof and for maximum flexibility.

See the discussion at User_talk:Aris_Katsaris#Three-letter_templates.

-- Curps 06:28, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

PS, your "do not post below this line" is not very convenient if you use the standard "+" tab to add a comment. -- Curps 06:29, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)


How is typing {{PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA}} any longer than typing [[People's Republic of China]] ? It's the exact same thing, except uppercased and using curly braces instead of brackets.

Remember, the only places we'd use the templates are places where we're replacing the existing text. So this is the exact same number of bytes. -- Curps 06:47, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)


The problems with three-letter codes of any kind are:

  • the average ordinary Wikipedia editor will not be familiar with them, no matter which standard we use. This means only elite editors in the know will be able to edit articles that use these frankly cryptic codes. Not a problem for you or me, but think of the average user.
  • some will conflict with existing usages, like Template:IND for subways
  • no one organization that invents three-letter codes will supply all the ones we might eventually need. What if we want to add flags to the list of states of Germany, at Germany#States? What if we want flags of all the provinces of Canada, in an article on Canadian elections? These are all perfectly plausible uses. -- Curps 06:58, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Well, five-letter codes are still a problem, because they'd be our invention and therefore completely non-standard. Do we really want to force everyone who wants to edit an article to memorize our list of five-letter codes... this is a big barrier to the fundamental principle of "anyone can edit Wikipedia". The Wikipedia community at large would probably object to this, and revert our changes. -- Curps 07:09, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Uh, do we not want what? To try to prevent others from editing Wikipedia? I'm not sure I'm following you. -- Curps 07:12, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I read the wrong thing. Earl Andrew 07:14, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Well, actually, I think this might need to be proposed to the Wikipedia community at large before it's widely implemented. I believe Wikipedia:Village pump (news) is the standard place for announcing new templates. I do anticipate there could very well be objections to the perceived cryptic nature of three-letter or five-letter codes. The idea of including flags is a cool one, but it's the specific implementation that people might object to. This probably needs some wider input and consensus. -- Curps 07:26, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)


Election maps

I have made two maps for the Manitoba election 2003 and the Yukon 2002, and I believe that the maps you have map are much better. I would like to request that you recreate the two maps that I have made so that they reach a higher standard. MS123

Thankyou for doing this, however I'm wondering if you like the colours I chose for the PC's on the Manitoba map. MS123

Thanks, it looks pretty good. Do you plan on doing pre 1999 ontario elections anytime soon? MS123

I dunno, they'd be something I'd like to see. If you don't want to put alot of effort into it(because it probably takes a long time) and you can get the maps, you can post it and I can finish them. MS123

Subnational entities

Papua (Indonesian province) -> Papua Province

as one of the participants of Subnational entity project I would like you to vote on Talk:Papua (Indonesian province). There were several discussions before but now I brought in the new fact that the overwhelming majority of subdivisions use non-bracket disambig if needed. regards Tobias Conradi 06:12, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Italy: Province of X -> X Province

I do not see why provinces of Italy are something special, to be treated different to 99% of the subdivisions worldwide. Currently for the move there is Support:Oppose:Neutral = 1:1:1 . Maybe you can have a look at Talk:Provinces of Italy regards Tobias Conradi (Talk) 23:12, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Nice work

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Hi. I thought I'd write to say you did a great job making Image:Gaymap.PNG. Sure, your colour scheme was a bit over-fluorescent, but the hard work shows. You receive a WikiCookie.

Incidentally, I do not remember running into you in the course of editing Wikipedia, but apparently you've been a sysop longer than me. Do you not visit the #Wikipedia IRC channel, and if not, why not? - Mark 08:15, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Great job!

Image:Spinboygift.jpg --Spinboy 05:34, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Three revert rule

You have been blocked for 24 hours under the three revert rule. If you wish to appeal please contact another administrator or the mailing list.Geni 22:36, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)


To quote from WP:3RR "Administrators blocked under this provision must not unblock themselves." I susgest you stay very quite unless you want to be involved in the stupidest arbcom case everGeni 23:15, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)


The 3RR applies to pretty much everything (exception are vanderlism and posibly your user page). As a general rule I assume admins have a vague knowlage of policy. Well you seem to think that arbcom should have a roll here and I'm not going to dissagree I'm in the process of opening a case.Geni 09:54, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I saw you unblocked yourself. Whatever you do, don't do that again. You can appeal to other admins and the mailing list as Geni said. Using your admin powers to undo a block on yourself is specifically forbidden by policy. Mgm|(talk) 12:10, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)

I'm an extremely busy person on Wikipedia, with lots of projects open. I cannot afford to be blocked for even one minute, I am sorry if I broke policy, but I feel not being blocked is more beneficial to Wikipedia. I do not have time to appeal to other Wikipedians. -- Earl Andrew - talk 17:42, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
That sounds like a very unhealthy attitude to take; I highly doubt your edits are more important than anyone else's. I still agree with other admins by saying that you could have just asked someone else to unblock you, via IRC or the mailing list. Just about everyone would have. If you seriously believe you can't stand to be blocked for a minute, maybe that's your cue to take a Wikibreak and get back into reality a little bit. Mike H 21:42, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)


No no, my edits are not more important as other people's edits. However, it is the principal of the action. Plus, I am not familiar enough with IRC or mailing lists to ask someone to unblock me. I'm sorry if I sound a bit arrogant, but I have an incredible passion towards expanding Wikipedia, and I didn't think it was very fair what happened. In addition, it's not up to you to decide if I need a wikibreak. That will be a personal decision, if I chose to. -- Earl Andrew - talk 23:08, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Update

A few people have signed up for the WikiProject, I left messages on talk pages! I have also created the Ottawa Collaboration of the Month. If you want the template for your user page, it is {{Ottawa COTM}}. I hope we can get this off the ground! --Spinboy 06:09, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Largest metro areas

Hello, why did you revert my changes on Largest metropolitan areas in the Americas? --Tuomas hello 05:35, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

The information about Lima on your website was out-of-date. That's why I changed it. --Tuomas hello 05:40, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

American national women's hockey team

I swear, when I was deleting it I saw a blank page. And now, if you try "undelete" it shows blank, and the creator is 65.94.152.160. Is this you? Mikkalai 07:05, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The history shows that the empty article was created by 65.94.152.160, and this was the only version of the article. This ID also created "Kazakhstani national women's ice hockey team", which was an obvious prank. It could be an overlap in time and database transactions got screwed. I will look into the deletion log and try to figure out what happlened. Mikkalai 07:15, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

By the way, the table of contents is screwed up here at your tali page. Just click "edit" link for this subsection, and see. Mikkalai 07:18, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I've just noticed that you restored the page yourself, so you can see by yourself the version I deleted in page's history. Mikkalai 07:21, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

test

Tommy Douglas

To answer your question, yes, he did support eugenics in his youth when he was in collage. After the war his views changed and he no longer supported it. He also said at one point while he was premier that japanese immigrants should be deported. Not the greatest views, but it was a long time ago. MS123 21:45, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Ottawa-stub

I feel that you have added the Ottawa stub template to far to many articles. You marked over two hundred pages with it, the vast majority of pages we have relating to Ottawa. Please remember that a stub is defined as " a very short article, generally of one paragraph or less." Moreover marking almost everything with the template makes it useless as it is impossible to find those pages that are actually much in need of expansion. - SimonP 17:59, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

Flag templates

Discussion moved from Wikipedia:Village_pump_(news)#Flag_templates to Template talk:Flag. Template:Country (SEWilco 19:04, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC))

The endless political colouration debate

The "colours are evil" folks are back at it on Talk:Canadian federal election results since 1867. The comprimise for visibility that I've suggested—bold black text on light-to-medium backgrounds—still seems to not pass muster with some. Just hoping a fellow chromophile might want to weigh in. :) -The Tom 05:54, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I am certainly open to the suggestion of adding party logos to the headings, but wouldn't that require a new template for each party branch? MS123

I make no point other than to say that I like the idea. MS123

Homosexuality in Cuba

Hello. Please look at [2] (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image_talk:Laws_on_homosexuality.PNG). Thanks. Unsigned comment by User:84.42.165.49

I took the liberty to do some research, and I found this site. [3] (http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/markburton/gaycuba.htm) Mike H 21:45, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, after some discussion in es:, I don't know what position are you trying to defend with your link. I thought mine, because homosexuality is no longer illegal, althought there are social issues to overcome. But maybe you mean that there isn't any legislation which explicitly protects homosexuals against any abuse of the very open decency laws, so that means homosexuality is still illegal... (?) Please clarify. --80.250.2.193 17:43, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC) (ex 84.42.165.49)
My talk page is not a debate forum, please move your discussion elsewhere, thank you. -- Earl Andrew - talk 18:12, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

the issue of school articles

In November 2003, there was a VfD debate over Sunset High School (Portland). The debate was archived under Talk:Sunset High School (Portland). What to do with the article is still being contested and has been recently re-nominated for VfD at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Sunset High School (Portland).

I am writing to you because you have participated in such debates before. There still does not exist a wikipedia policy (as far as i can tell) over what to do in regards to articles about specific U.S. public school. My hope is that a real consensus can come out of the debate, and a real policy can take shape. Take part if you are so willing. Kingturtle 02:17, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Who is Ted Kennedy?

Hey Earl, I'd appreciate it if you'd go weight in as a Canadian at Talk:Ted_Kennedy#Move to Edward Kennedy Vote Please. I want to make sure that the 'pedia isn't too Americanized. Since I know you're Canadian I figured I'd asked you to throw you're two cents in. Cheers. Kevin Rector (talk) 15:30, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Kevin Rector (talk) 15:49, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!

You're welcome. --Spinboy 06:24, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No, I went to bed. --Spinboy 15:13, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Quebec Collaboration of the week created

The QCOTW has been created over at WP:QCOTWCirceus 17:54, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)

Party logos

Sorry about the delay responding—caught me between work and home, actually. :)

I'm open to the idea of finding a way to "hardwire-in" political logos to the template system—in general I'm fond of visual stuff and the like, so don't take the revert as a slight against the notion of eyecandy. The only problem is that the logos aren't constant time-period-to-time-period and province-to-province-to-federal... so when you stuck in the federal Liberal logo, for instance, it immediately appeared over provincial liberal candidates on provincial election pages using that template, and had we hypothetically finished off a 2000 election page with a candidate list, the 2003 Martin-era swoosh would have been appearing where the Chretien-era ||| * L should have been.

I'm pondering ways to adapt the template system so there might be wiggle room for varying logos, but nothing simple is coming to mind right now... the only thing that's coming to mind is to code a different set of templates for each party in each timeframe in each jurisdiction, which seems to be running contrary to the original notion of simplifying things for wikipedians. I'll give it some more thought; if you can come up with some possible workarounds I'll be all-ears. -The Tom 23:35, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Well, I think it's a lengthier conversation that needs to be had at some point. Considering there's still a vocal section that doesn't think there should be more than two pixels of colour per page, I'd like to win that battle before stirring the pot again ;). As your Sask example shows, each new iteration of a provincial party/party in another era/provincial party in another era requires a whole new template-set, which does muddy the waters beyond their current muddyness by a considerable margin. Right now, there's one colhead set and one row set of templates keyed to each colour template; now we could get into situations where someone changes the NDP colour and it doesn't carry over everywhere, for instance. Again, I'm not opposed in principle, I'm just thinking of a half-dozen examples of where things will start to look ugly—where we get logos for some and not all, for instance, or from back in the day where getting verifiable logos becomes difficult (for example, I've been hunting on the web for some time for a John Turner-era federal Liberal logo to no success—it was the one with the solid maple leaf in the centre, and then a frame of a fractured leaf behind it. Only fifteen years old, natural governing party, and nothing.) I'd rather get this template system fully-implemented for a bit and getting the main information out there before we collectively start turning our energies into hours and hours on aesthetics, especially when there's reason to believe that all such a hunt will do is draw attention to the gaps in our knowledge. -The Tom 01:05, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

thanks for the flags on the Canadian men s national soccer team page

Dear Earl Andrew, thanks for adding the flags to the page - it looks a lot better with them. i thought at first they were meant to represent where each player was born. but is this assumption a correct one, or do the flags show where each player is registered or something? Regards, Mayumashu

well

Actually, it was a bit stupid of me to get through the work of typing it all by hjand in the window when I could have waited and have it done automatically under Textpad. At any rate, I am not touching the article againt today. Circeus 19:40, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

Your input, please

Some more ideas here on formatting of elections tables. I hope these won't be controversial. Ground Zero 19:55, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Carleton-Charlotte

You seem to have changed the title of this article to include an m rule; I understood that including such characters in titles was deprecated, but in any case it should be an n rule. Is it just misrepresented by my browsers? Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:47, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm very surprised. By "we", do you mean Canadians? I ask because I've never come across any style guide (on either side of the Atlantic) that countenances the use of m rules to connect words. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 17:37, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Oh yes, I can see the difference, and the need for a typographical distinction; it's just that normal usage is a hyphen for the former and an n rule for the latter. Still, if it's done for all of them, it would probably take too much effort to change them. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 17:46, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

District articles

Earl - one thing at a time, Ok? It's easier to create them in big batches with a semi-automated process (not a robot, just a handy template), then go back and disambig as necessary when the federal districts are created. Page moves are easy, and I'm aware of the issue. Besides, the conflict doesn't exist until such time as the federal article is created. Fawcett5 12:49, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Just a couple more things - for the provincial-federal page moves you already made or may continue to make, don't forget to add the correct category (these are now standardized for all provinces as [Category:Province|Territory federal|provincial|territorial electoral district]. Also, the link you provided doesn't seem to work. Finally, I will adopt the convention you seem to have settled on -> "place (electoral district)" for federal and "place (provincial electoral district)" for provincial. Fawcett5 13:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Why should you be telling me what to do? It looked like to me that there had been more than one federal district at different times. Fawcett5 20:31, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I too am not really interested in squabbling. The convention for "re-animated" districts works fine when it was in the same province both times - when it was in different provinces, this breaks down (screws up the categorization and are really not comparable entities anyway). Right now it would say "Nova Scotia electoral district" and "British Columbia electoral district", which to me, if I did not know the convention, screams "provincial". I know that there are a lot of links using that convention already, but really, it is an easy job for one of the bot guys to take care of. Actually, I am increasingly in favour, whenever there is a an duplication, of standardly using the top-level (electoral district) strictly for a disambig page. Anyway, I will stick with the current convention for the moment, and look forward to hearing your thoughts. Fawcett5 20:52, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC) By the way, please notice that I have now also built into the template I am using a section that appears in the article that can be uncommented to facilitate disambiguation... Fawcett5 21:04, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Earl, another question has arisen about the electoral district articles... It has been pointed out to me that the use of emdashes in article titles has been deprecated in the MoS (they don't display properly in some browsers, and can't be typed from the keyword, so searches fail). This causes a problem for articles that use both hyphens and emdashes in the title, but I don't see much alternative but to use hyphens. Sometimes the hyphen part can reasonably be replaced with a space (imaginary example St-Wombat—Quokka would become St. Wombat-Quokka). What's your take on this? I have already created lots of articles with emdashed titles, but these can be easily moved to the hyphenated version, which will also make a suitable redirect. Also, what about when a district changes names from "Wombat and Quokka" to "Wombat—Quokka"? It seems silly to have a separate article, so which format do you think should be used for the article name? Note that there are already a couple of instances where probable duplicate articles have been created, but by cruising the defunct electoral district categories, it usually becomes obvious when such near-name duplicates occur - I plan to go through when all the articles are created and redirect some of these to their twin. Fawcett5 01:59, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Pope names

Good work, Earl Andrew. Now all you need to do is go through, put in PP. after the Latin name (it's part of their "official name"). I didn't look back past JPI, but have you gone back to Peter? You probably should. Given that you are fighting for standardisaton, you should probably address that lack.Grace Note 23:34, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Your argument for adding them was that they are the "official" name. Now you say you don't want the official name, just the Latin name. What is your justification for using the Latin name?Grace Note 00:04, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm not arguing aesthetics, Earl Andrew. There was an agreement on the infobox talk page not to use Latin names. You breached it, insisting that you wanted to use official names, as are used on Robert Kocharyan. But you didn't use the official name and now say you don't want to. I am going to revert your changes. It's a lot of unnecessary work for me, but I feel that the boxes should not carry Latin translations without good reason. Earl Andrew wants it is not good reason.

I'm only going to revert once and I won't check the pages. I trust you not to do it again without talking to me and convincing me of the rightness of your position. I'm not fundamentally opposed to the official names and I want you to be happy with the outcome. I just don't think you convinced me. Grace Note 00:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Canadian political parties chart

I just wanted to let you know that I enjoyed your chart on List of political parties in Canada. I'm surprised that there hasn't been a bunch of debate about this. Props for the pretty picture and for daring the controversy. I think it might be useful to add the social freedom/economic freedom basis for the axes in the legend by way of explanation. Can I ask how did you decide to put which party where? Ground Zero 21:51, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I guess my comment would have to do with the Conservative and Progressive Canadian parties. They are placed on the same social policy plane. The PC Party, however, calls itself "socially progressive, fiscally conservative", while the Cons seem to have no interest in being socially progressive, what with Stephen Harper addressing anti-SSM rallies and what-not. Not to mention, only 4 of their 99 MPs voted for SSM. I know that the PC Party probably doesn't have an official position yet, but I would expect that opinion in the party would be more evenly split. That is, if they could get more than one member in a room at the same time. And while Haperper wants to avoid the abortion isssue, there is large cluster of his backbenchers who are chomping at the bit to bring in new legislatio to restrict/eliminate it. Just my thoughts. Do with it what you will. Ground Zero 22:24, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Canadian Time Zones

Earl, since you're a Canadian, and you're interested in time zones, I'm hoping you can help me clear up some of the misinformation in the time zone articles. My big question is: who named the Canadian time zones? This is of particular interest because three Canadian zones have the same name as their U.S. equivalent. So it would be useful to know whether Canada has an agreement with the U.S. about this, or just chose the same names to avoid confusion.

I'd also like to know who draws the boundaries. In the U.S., Congress draws them, and everybody has to go along. I gather things are more granular in Canada, but I'd like to get specifics. ---Isaac R 08:00, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Can we keep the discussion on your talk page? I don't mind watching it, and I find it confusing to switch back and forth.

I didn't expect you to know the answer off the top of your head. Sometimes you have to go out and do some actual offline research. In this case, somebody needs to go to a reference librarian and ask for help finding out who controls the naming and boundaries of Canadian time zones. I could do it, but a Canadian librarian would be a lot more likely to have the right documents at hand. ---Isaac R 20:10, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I must admit, libraries are not my forté. Perhaps I can pop the question up at the Canadian Wiki board to see if anyone knows the answers. If that fails, try the Reference desk -- Earl Andrew - talk 20:18, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Kids and Kylie

Hi EarlAndrew, I don't think this is the correct interpretation and yet at the same time I don't think it's vandalism. I think it's somebody's (the contributor's?) personal interpretation of the lyrics rather than the songwriter's intention, and as such, should be removed. As it's neither complete nonsense, or something offensive, I don't think it's vandalism. From what I've read in a Robbie Williams interview the meaning is more like, the couple are not happy together but are staying together because of the kids "I don't mind doing it for the kids". The lyrics are quite cryptic - Kylie said in another interview she didn't really know what it was all about, she was just given it to sing. I think therefore any interpretation of the lyrics should have a reference to support the inclusion. Rossrs 02:13, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Pope Infobox

FYI - I really liked the new Pope Infobox so I have proposed that it be used for all religious leades on Infobox policy. There have been no objections so far (since Friday). If that continues I plan on helping to update the articles for the new Infobox. If you have comments, concerns please discuss there User:Trödel/sig 17:37, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Template:QCOTW reminderCirceus 01:46, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)


Yukon Party

I like the pics for the Yukon parties. If you are looking for a pic for the Yukon Party, the new website link for the party is on the article page. MS123

Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Team pages format

Do you have any interest is laying out the "standard" format for ice hockey team pages at Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Team pages format? I know you've done some work with OHL teams, and those pages look good. I've pretty much only worked with player pages to this point. The WikiProject is starting to get quite a few new members and I was thinking that it might be good for some of us "old timers" to get some of the red policy links made blue. Kevin Rector (talk) 13:46, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)

ontario map

Great job on the 1990 election! I wasn't sure if you could do it or not, but it looks great. (How nice it is to see a sea of orange across the province) I look forward to 95 & 87. MS123

I hear you there. Too bad Hampton can't repeat this. MS123

COTW Project

You voted for History of Quebec, this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article.

Template:ZIMf

I have listed this at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion (May 2). Thuresson 01:36, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

British Columbia general election, 2005

Template:Wikinews As per the box. As a Canadian constituency article writer, you may care to organize the same sort of in-depth news coverage and collaborative constituency-article-writing effort as at Wikinews:Results of 2005 United Kingdom General Election and Wikipedia:WikiProject UK Parliamentary Constituencies. Uncle G 22:43, 2005 May 2 (UTC)

Electoral districts on VfD

Earl, someone has made the crazy suggestion on VfD that all the historical electoral district articles should be deleted. See: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Antigonish—Guysborough and call out the troops. Fawcett5 03:23, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Gay laws map

Hi Earl. I saw your updated Gay laws map. You appear to have changed Australia to mostly allowing civil unions, which is news to me. Are you sure this is true? Also, next time you update it (if you do), can you change it from "Homosexuality legal"? Not everyone uses the word "homosexuality" to refer to sex, generally only the sexuality itself. It is the sodomy/anal sex/gay sex which is illegal in those countries. Thanks and good work. - Mark 09:20, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Regarding Account Suspension.

This query is for the administrator Earl Andrew.

To Earl Andrew:

I may have mistakingly used an explicative in: Talk: Evil.

Is this the reason for my user page vandal status?

My number is: 152.163.100.201

--Scroll1 00:57, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

You're quick!

Thanks for adding all the non-medal results in the Czechoslovakian national ice hockey team article! *thumbsup* --Sarke 04:07, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

BC election

We should split the seats up again, we are starting to duplicate each other... - Jord 04:24, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

No, I am not logged in. - Jord 04:29, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

In the news ....

Hello. Please be reminded that all images need to be protected before they go onto the MainPage. And a {{Mprotected}} tag needs to be applied to the image. I've just done that for Image:Parliament2.jpg. Also, according to the guidelines on Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page, relevant pages must be updated. May I assume that you're updating the Motion of no confidence page now, please ? Non-confidence redirects there. Thanks. -- PFHLai 23:18, 2005 May 19 (UTC)

Your edit at ITN has been reverted (not by me !), so I had to undo the image protection..... -- PFHLai 23:31, 2005 May 19 (UTC)

NB Election Image

Very, very nice sir. You look to be coming up with regions on the talk page, if so let me know, I could offer some advice on which would make the most sense :) - Jord 15:22, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Quebec 2003 election map

Would you be open to reconsider the location of your (quite appreciated) creation, the election map, on the Quebec general election, 2003 article page? I strongly feel like the map esthetically jars with the flag and the headline. --Liberlogos 04:11, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

BC provincial ridings

Good day Earl. User:Maclean25 and I have been co-operating on beginning articles for the BC ridings. I think we have a real good start and it may be time to consider how they will be "fleshed out".

User:Maclean25 posted the following issues my talk page for consideration and I think an opinion from a "seasoned" political editor such as yourself would be helpful.


Please review the layout of Bulkley Valley-Stikine. This is the prototype of how all other districts will be organised. Specifically, please comment on the following issues:
  • headings (demographics, geography, history, election results all make sense)
  • Total votes (Total valid votes or Total votes cast? there is a 33 vote difference which would affect the 100.00% in the next column)
  • Voter turnout (currently it is "Registered Voters Who Voted" because it is the easiest stat to get; alt is "% Eligible Voters Who Voted"
  • Demographics (anyway to alter table to show more detailed stats, like pop in 1991, 1996, 2001, 2005; avg. income (census or election year?), unemployment (year?), or whatever may be relevant.
  • the images (just something I'm fiddling with, do they make sense?)

maclean25 22:12, 20 May 2005 (UTC) Template:End box Cheers, DoubleBlue (Talk) 14:02, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

P.S. My comments on these questions are posted at Maclean25's talk page.

  • Hi, I created a new election box template and I'm starting to use that one for the BC provincial ridings. It includes campaign expenses. For first-past-the-post elections this is one of the most crucial pieces of info for understanding the race & results. Now I am almost happy with the election box information. Prototype at Bulkley Valley-Stikine. Let me know what you think. $ info for 1991 and 1996 only, difficulty finding 2001 data. maclean25 05:44, 25 May 2005 (UTC)


Ontario political compass

Just a question for you. The Ontario NDP is placed closer to the center than the federal NDP, and I just want to know if that was intentional? I think Howie Hampton is more of a socialist than Layton is. Layton is more libertarian than Hampton is, but I think politically Howie's NDP is more socialist in nature.

MS123


You can't really compare provincial seats to federal seats. The federal NDP vote was 20% in Ontario, and in the provincial election it was 14%. Also, Howie doesn't seem to like Bob Rae. He still is pissed about the public auto thing. If you look at Howie he has said that he thinks swedish socialism is the best way to go, which, in Ontario isn't all that moderate. I don't think a major change is needed, just a shift to at least the federal NDP point.

MS123


Thanx abunch

Naming of Indian reserves

I noticed you renamed articles like Fort Severn, Ontario to Fort Severn 89, Ontario to add the number. While this is the official designation, I thought Wikipedia convention is to use the most common name. So in the case of Fort Severn, shouldn't we just go by "Fort Severn" without the 89? Samw 03:15, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

I've continued the discussion at Talk:Fort Severn 89, Ontario. Samw 03:01, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

NB election regions

I overwrote your edit to the regions in NB. I understand your desire to have cities distinct, but it is not really plausible in New Brunswick as there are a number of ridings that are parts of one city and parts not. The ridings of Saint John-Fundy and Saint John-Kings include large portions of areas which are not a part of the city of Saint John (this is why they have a hyphen and the other SJ seats do not). Moncton Crescent also contains large parts of both the city of Moncton and areas outside of the city. - Jord 19:09, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Ottawa Senators

Hm. For one, that column is in variance to those used for other NHL team articles, and is overly wide for the text contained.

For a second, there's no need for a "current" coach or a "current" general manager. Most people will figure out that the sole people listed as coaches or GMs are the current incumbents.

For a third, "North-American" is not the proper form for the appellation.

For a fourth, very few people (if any) who view the article will need to be informed that the National Hockey League is a North American league; it would be difficult for a league that encompassed Ottawa to be anything but.

Octranspo.JPG

I just now noticed the brightened image you put up about a month ago - I found it a bit too washed out and grainy. I downloaded the original and played with contrast and gamma, and uploaded again - hopefully this new one works a bit better... Radagast 22:26, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)

Then, perhaps a new photo would work best; the direct sunlight on the side combined with the shade on the front makes for a very unworkable pic. Of course, being nowhere near Ottawa, I can't help in that regard, so I'll just shut up now... Radagast 00:01, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (provinces)

If you are interested in reducing the naming variants for provinces in wikipedia from 14 to something near 3 you may like to have a look at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (provinces). Tobias Conradi (Talk) 23:34, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Senatorial divisions

I'm running to the biggest political geography nuts I know of for a hand here. I'm rather displeased with the article at Canadian Senate Divisions which strongly seems to imply Senate divisions are anything more than political ephemera that dance in the minds of Senators. It was anonymously assembled, and on further examination it seems someone called Cloveious is now putting together articles like Calgary Senate division which perpetuate the mistake on the first article and treat senate tags as if they were ridings--"created from" older divisions on certain dates, and so on. That definately seems VfDish. Just wondering if you had any commentary for the Talk page -The Tom 18:45, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Gaymap and Australia

I think there may be a problem with the Australia section. Whilst the Same-sex marriage article is (to my knowledge) true in saying that " Australia currently recognizes same-sex partnerships in all but two of its territories: Victoria and South Australia.", these "partnerships" do not (again, to my knowledge), as the civil union article says, have a "civil status similar to marriage". Tasmania is the only state with civil unions, and thus for Australia, this (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/e/ea/20050413110008%21Gaymap.PNG) revision is the correct one. See also Same-sex marriage in Australia for more details.

Could this be updated? Thanks, and HTH Dysprosia 02:45, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The mainland should all be light green (No same-sex unions), that is, Western Australia, Northern Territory, Queensland, New South Wales/ACT. Tasmania is correct with mild green (Same-sex unions). Thanks Dysprosia 00:05, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Decima polls

new poll today. Kick Ass results! please update pic. MS123

May 20 Ipsos poll

From their website, I have media access to their site so I can see the details of the polls, I can download and email you the PDF if you don't trust me ;) - Jord 01:55, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You are unable to view it on their site as you need to be able to log in to the media area. I also post the nationla numbers along with my seat projections on my site (http://www.jord.ca) if you are ever looking for one. - Jord 02:01, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Move request

Don't want to trouble ppl with all the bureaucracy at WP:RM, so I was wondering if you had a sec would you mind moving George Baker (Newfoundland and Labrador politician) to George Baker (politician) for relatively obvious reasons? Looks like someone thought it was good to get needlessly complex in terms of article naming. TIA! -The Tom 08:14, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Grrr. This wouldn't be half as bad if there wasn't a user or users who also keeps insisting on moving politicians to articles with their full names rather than what they were actually called in the media. James Aloysius McGrath being what led me Bakerwards in the first place. -The Tom 18:16, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Well, Wikipediawide naming conventions are fairly clear on the point--name in common usage--which is why we have Paul Martin, not Paul Edgar Phillippe Martin; Joe Volpe not Giuseppe Volpe. The thing is, the information on less-contemporary politicians on the 'pedia is often pulled from sources like the National Archives and Library of Parliament, which make reference to ppl like "Thomas Edward Siddon" despite the fact that they are known outside the world of dusty books as Tom Siddon, and that if Wikipedia was around in 1985 there'd be no question whatsoever where the article would be. -The Tom 04:31, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Demographics

Sorry for reverting your changes so fascistly. I was (am) frustrated by a lot of the changes made by another user and got carried away. I read the article you pointed me to regarding Whites and am still not convinced that they are technically thought of as a race by statisticians, but I could be wrong. The term Caucasian actually encompasses more and I think it is more correct. Doesn't matter. With regard to religions, you're right, Airdrie is pretty homogenous anyway. Thought about it after, and I think an "other" category is probably the simplest way out there. I will add it back. Once again, I apologize for my frustration. -Tyson2k

Actually, you're right. Ethnicity does not mean the same thing as race. That is exactly why I used it. Race may not be a politically incorrect term as such but it is most definitely outdated. There are very few anthropomorphically significant differences between "races" beyond those which are purely superficial. Unfortunately, StatsCan is only able to use these generally meaningless superficial traits to differentiate ethinically distinct people. Thus, race, which does little more than differentiate people based on appearance is used as a substitute for ethnicity which is probably impossible to quantify. Ethnicity embodies those aspects of a group of people which are predominately cultural and may or may not encompass physical traits such as skin colour. By using the term ethnicity, I was merely trying to to apply quantities (which can only truly be used when discussing race) to ethnic groups. This was only an effort to modernize the terminology of the article such that is was more descriptive of modern cosmopolitan society. Thus, ethnicity should figure much more prominently in a description of a city's culture. As far as I'm concerned, "race" is becoming more of an irrelevant term as our alledgedly progressive society moves away from differentiating people based merely on skin colour and other physical characteristics. That said, it was far easier to fit "politically incorrect" in the edit summary than what I just wrote. Since StatsCan uses the term race, then you had might as well use it too. I just happen to think that race is far less important than the diverse and colourful cultural differences that make people unique. - Tyson2k
Actually, I think you're the confused one. The definition of ethnicty which I subscribe to is nearly identical to this one from StatsCan [4] (http://www.statcan.ca/english/concepts/definitions/ethnicity.htm). Like I said, ethnicity includes race but it also includes much more of that which I believe to be within the spirit of diversity. And as I said above, using ethnicity to describe the statisitics in question was not right (you were right) since ethnicity is not as easily quantifiable as race... it was more of a gesture on my part. My point was (and still is), is that stats on race are not all that important. A desciption of a place's ethnicity (sans the numbers) would be far more valuble in communicating a cultural composition. We're on the same side of the fence here buddy. The only difference is that I don't think racial statisitics are all that important. And I still think the term "race" is a little heavy-handed and regressive, even if it's not politically incorrect. I changed your edits from "Race" to "Racial Diversity". I think that it softens the term. I hope you can at least agree on that. By the way, StatsCan only keeps stats on ethnic origin. That means literally... a person's place of cultural origin or heritage. This is completely different from what I'm talking about. Ethnicity is not easily quantifiable and encompasses many things. That is why it's a far richer term. -Tyson2k.
I would like to see these stats on ethnicity that go to CMAs and provinces. I don't fully understand where these numbers would come from. Anyway, I'm happy as long as we're at a concensus. As long as we agree, we should try to standardize some more pages so that they match this template. And as long as you mentioned it, don't even get me started on the way the US handles race. The Americans are very big into racial prfiling and use it for everything from university admissions to jobs, etc. I think this is one of the more disgusting aspects of American culture and one of the most regressive aspects of it as well. It truly baffles me that race should ever matter anymore. It seems to me that the Americans (and to a lesser degree, every other western country as well... but mostly the Americans) have been having a lot of difficulty cleaning those skeletons out of its closet. -Tyson2k

Also, thank-you for pointing out that Aboriginals were not considered visible minorities. I was not aware of that. -Tyson2k

There's no obvious link I could see on how to send you a personal message.

How do you change the title of an article? I'd like to change Jean Blaquiere to Jean Blaquiére (adding the accent), although admittedly, it is easier to use the Search function when one does not need to include the accent in typing the name.

Geoff Capp

Population

Please stop reverting population figures to 2001 StatsCan info on Alberta pages. These are well researched census figures from municipal governments. They are completely legit. However, I'm not suprised that you were confused as it appears that someone went ahead and relabelled them "2005" when they are actually 2004 numbers. - Tyson2k

I'm going to reply here, since you dont seem to be logged on. My concern was that those may have not been the top 10 most populous places based on the estimates, as some municipalities may have moved up or down from the list. -- Earl Andrew - talk 06:24, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Canada's soccer record

I haven't seen it be updated in a long time. If it has, I appologize, but I don't think constantly changing data should appear at Wikipedia, unless someone wants to do the legwork to make sure it's up to date. I guess one can always put at "as of (date)" on top of that, but what's the point if this can be better serve as a link to an outside source (as opposed to being a direct paste from one)? --Dryazan 20:45, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

My bad! But put "as of (date)" then? --Dryazan 20:51, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Central Economy

Dear Earl Andrew, how are you doing? Could i trouble you for that scan from the atlas as i don t have access to it or any other atlas and i d really like to see how it differs from 'Economy'? i m from very near there and would like to get the placenaming straight as i wrote in the write up i did for Economy, Nova Scotia that 'Central Economy' is non-offical (although i seem to recall from childhood there being a road sign marked Central Economy in to no surprise the centre of the village flat). however, the www.destination-ns.com NS gov't tourism site does not list it. in the meantime i ll put it back on the Colchester County article list if you haven t already and link it to Economy. Take care! -Mayumashu 01:59, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

thanks a bunch Earl Andrew for the map - where (and how) i m living i m solely depend for resources on what i get for free off the net and i couldn t seem to bring up any maps with the proper detail. Yeah i agree that the Central Economy looks to be an alternative for Economy or the later a general reference to the area at large where there s also Lower and Upper Economy - i ll reword the article i did on Economy to reflect this. all the best! -Mayumashu 07:40, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Spinboy 3RR

Could you give a bit of detail as to why you unbocked him on WP:AN3? It makes it easyer to keep track of things.Geni 16:19, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'd appreciate some more detail too. You can't unblock someone for 3RR simply because you don't like the policy. SlimVirgin (talk) 17:08, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

I've reblocked Spinboy. In future, please don't unblock someone, particularly on a 3RR, just because he or she asks you. We should be consistent with policy and not play favourites. AndyL 21:31, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

BAHf

Template:BAHf has no links to it. WP:TFD? (SEWilco 04:36, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC))

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