User talk:Bcorr/Archive 200309

Archived talk from September 2003

Contents

1 • Sovereignty association 2 • Hi Brian 3 • The Donisthorpe Files 4 • Rockport, Mass. 5 • "en2" vs. "www" 6 • Thanks for the welcome

• Sovereignty association

And thanks for posting an article on this important topic. My comments about Mr. Parizeau may be POV -- I'm going to check for any elaboration he made. Trontonian

Mr. Parizeau did acknowledge that his remark was justly disapproved, so I added a bit about that to the article, plus a bit about another comment he made that night. That section of the article is now somewhat long, though. Made me feel better about JP, though. Just an excitable boy. Trontonian 00:59, 18 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Incidentally, I'm one of many English Canadians who thinks sovereignty association might not be a bad idea. I also thought the idea of a confederation of regions was worth discussing, but in English Canada the people who run the media seem disinclined to discuss these alternatives, just as they were disinclined to discuss alternatives to the Charlottetown Accord. I'll try to think of an NPOV way to work that point into the article. Also incidentally, I grew up in Western Ontario when Detroit was cool -- people used to go to Detroit for weekends then instead of Toronto. That's why I'm so mad about what they've done to the Tigers I could spit. Trontonian 16:05, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I know what you mean! Hard to image now that Detroit was a better place to go than Toronto! *sigh* -- Bcorr 18:28, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I spose I should be mad about what they've done to Detroit generally, eh? Government often seems like a Monte Carlo simulation. Trontonian 19:39, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

• Hi Brian

Hi Brian, I just saw your message (http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2003-September/006664.html). I don't like sending e-mails to the mailing list, so I shall say welcome here instead! Hope you continue to enjoy editing here. Angela 00:09, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Thanks, Angela! -- Brian (Bcorr 00:17, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC))

• The Donisthorpe Files

What to do about User:80:225 (if anything at all)? As you may have noticed, I took it upon myself (http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&target=Bcorr) to get rid of gratuitous references to Horace Donisthorpe over the last couple of days from someone who was making a bunch of wacky and obnoxious edits (see Vandalism in progress). I (foolishly) thought I was "successful," but now User:80.255 (http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&target=80.255) (the same person who posted as User:80.225.79.69 (http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&target=80.225.79.69), User:80.225.73.197 (http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&target=80.225.73.197), and User:80.225.16.87 (http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&target=80.225.16.87)) and is doing a more subtle (and admittedly less annoying) set of edits, and is still creating a few stubby pages that just seem to refer to each other for the most part...

So here's my question: I'm still pretty new, and am not sure how much I'm being helpful, just being a stubborn geek, if I'm alienating (more or less) a valuable member of the Wikipedia community or if I'm just encouraging someone's trolling. Should I just ignore this person (forever? for a week?) or should I allow my righteous indignation to lead me onward in the struggle against petty vandalism? Thanks in advance for your advice, -- Bcorr 03:24, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

P.S. Here's what I mean: User_talk:80.255 -- Bcorr 03:26, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I'm for easing up on 80.225, at least for a while. He/she seems to be improving, which is the goal after all. I've found I can revert about 50 edits per minute if necessary, by myself, so there's no danger of permanent damage even if the user regresses to original form. (Donisthorpe is a legit person, after all, albeit apparently very obscure; on the other hand we should remember the maxim "write about what you know.") - Hephaestos 03:31, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. I appreciate the advice and have let up and will try not to pay attention for a day or so, but I noticed that Someone else had deleted a new page in the interim and pointed them to this exchange. and I think that 80.225 is backsliding:

'What links here' for Horace Donisthorpe  (http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Horace_Donisthorpe)

User:80.225's contributions (http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&target=80.255)

-- Bcorr 04:45, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I wasn't watching 80.225 in particular, but I noticed that 82.34.176.94 had just repaired the Neo-Nazism page: (here's the edit) (http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Neo-Nazism&diff=1500976&oldid=1497100), which was noted as "replaced sneakily removed *The British National Party" -- Bcorr 18:00, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

• Rockport, Mass.

Great article on Rockport! I was wondering where you found the census info, I've been looking all over the web, and all I can find was the stuff used for the Rambot (which of course is missing Rockport and many others). - Hephaestos 22:35, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Thanks, Hephaestos! I found the latitude and longitude at PLACESNAMED.COM Geographic Encyclopedia (http://www.placesnamed.com/r/o/rockport.asp) and the detailed census info at U.S Census Fact Finder  (http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/BasicFactsTable?_lang=en&_vt_name=DEC_2000_PL_U_GCTPL_ST7&_geo_id=04000US25) and U.S. Census Housing Unit Counts (http://quickfacts.census.gov/hunits/states/25cty.html) -- and (here's the main page for Fact Finder (http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/BasicFactsServlet?_lang=en)). Thanks again, -- Bcorr 22:44, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)

• "en2" vs. "www"

Arghh... that will be why. Thanks! Mintguy 22:08, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

• Thanks for the welcome

Hello Brian- thanks for the welcome message re. BNP, etc- I think for the time being though I would prefer to remain difficult to trace ;)