Talk:Stan (song)
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Possible copyright infringement
This appears to contain most of the song: I suggest that this is substantially a copyright violation... User:194.51.2.34
- Okay, I did think it might be a bit excessive myself. But I'm not sure that all of the explanation of the lyrics needs to go. I'll go and ask User:TUF-KAT about it, on his talk page. Hopefully we can all come to some sort of agreement on how much can stay in. -- Oliver P. 16:10, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Edit history
Please note that the edit history of this article is scattered in several places. It began as part of the article at The Marshall Mathers LP, which was at teh time entirely written by User:TUF-KAT. On 04 Dec 2002, he moved the content to Stan. On 15 Jun 2003, User:J.J. moved the content again to Stan (song), where it is now. -- Oliver P. 15:55, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Ignoring the chorus for a moment, first verse: 3.5 lines quoted out of 17 second verse: 10 lines quoted out of 27 third verse: 5 lines quoted out of 25 fourth verse: 11 lines quoted out of 27 Total: 29.5 lines quoted out of 96
I don't feel that this is "massive overquoting". Every line in my version was used to illustrate a facet of the song. The new version barely gives the gist of the story and doesn't contain anywhere's near the amount of useful information for readers who might not have understood something like the Phil Collins or Starter cap references. This version contains barely any description of the song's sound, tone or songwriting beyond that it is "haunting".
While the principle of fair use is ill-defined, copyrighted works can be quoted to illustrate a point for reporting or critical purposes. This article in no way functioned as a replacement for actually purchasing the song, and didn't detract from its value. As such, I will be largely reverting back to my version but will make some concessions and cut out a couple more lines. Tuf-Kat
No way of sending out the tape (nitpick)
"At the end, Stan realizes he has no way of sending out the tape he is recording on, because his car will, presumably, explode or otherwise ruin the tape after he drives off the bridge."
The lyrics are, according to lyricsdepot.com:
Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the bridge now Oh shit, I forgot, how'm I supposed to send this shit out? {*car tires squeal*} {*CRASH*} .. {*brief silence*} .. {*LOUD splash*}
I've always interpreted this as meaning simply that he realizes that he won't be able to send the tape out because he'll be dead. At the end of the song Eminem saps, "in the car they found a tape, but they didn't say who it was to"; if the tape had been ruined he wouldn't know this.
-rast, april 16 2005
- Agreed. Flillibridge 01:52, May 13, 2005 (UTC)