Talk:Quotation
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List of literary quotations
In wikipedia I suggest we generally list literary quotations at the page of the specific author, rather than having long lists with quotations on wisdom, women, computers, etc. See the discussion at talk:Literary quotations.
At the moment we have cases like the proverb pages and Ich bin ein Berliner that are contrary to this rule.
- Nice suggestion. One small problem mitigates against this from my point of view, (and Larry will probably see this as an overwhelming argument against the use of sub-pages :-) ), and that is where the subject is already a sub-page e.g. if we wanted to add the Winston Churchill quote about 'Never have so many' etc, to the Battle of Britain page as a /Quotation page we would be seriously stuffed since the Battle of Britain is already a sub-page of World War II. In seriousness, though, it really does reinforce Larry's argument against the widespread use of sub-pages, or certainly does until the point comes with wiki where we can nest sub-pages more or less ad infinitum, at which point we will probably want to fully review the whole taxonomy of wikipedia in any case. sjc
Metadata
Perhaps we should resort to metadata instead of the subpage solution. Each quotation gets its own page, like Ich bin ein Berliner, with comments etc. On the related metadata page we then list appropriate keywords, like "Kennedy", "Berlin", "Cold war", "International affairs", etc. This would allow automatic generation of a list of quotations appropriate for a certain topic.
In the same way automatic lists of references could be generated. Make an entry for the book and a metadata page with information about context. -- Css ---
Quotation sample
Would be nice to have a quotation sample in quotations. For instance, how does the wiki community like to be quoted? Using the http://beadsland.com/weapas/#REF format it could be somethink like this:
The Wiki Community (2004, September 7). Wikipedia: Quotation [WWW document]. URL http://en.wikipedia.org
What do you think?
Not all Quotations are true or beautiful
This one is memorable because it satirises the "truth and beauty" of poetry:
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occassionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
-- ?
- Well said. Rhytmic I think is a better term. Or just "unique" (try to google on sayings by only using 2-3-4-5 words from them, and see if you find them as first hits).--Seas 09:35, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Quote books
I am working on an article about books of quotations, e.g. Bartlett's Familiar Quotations, and wonder where to put the material. Would it be better as an extension of this article or as a stand-alone, say, under Quotation books? I'd like to hear some opinions on this. PedanticallySpeaking 20:45, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)
Sigs
Should be a mention of their usage in online signatures. --Seas 09:35, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
External links on a diet
I've just pruned the list of external links to remove many of the self promotional and less useful links. The internet has thousands of sites listing quotes and we don't need a link to all of them - Wikipedia is not a link farm.
In pruning the list I considered the following factors:
- Is the site over commercial
- Does the site offer a search engine and is it effective
- Uses offsite Google search - poor
- Only returns quotes which happen to include the search word - average
- Include hand compiled directories of relevant results - good
- Returns results based on concept and ordered by relevance - excellent (only thinkexist.com appeared to do this)
- Does the site have other tools to help you find the quote you half remember
- Does the site have something different to offer - rather than being a general quotes database or just quotes on a single subject
- Is the site easy to use and well presented
If you are considering adding an external link, please don't add a link to your own web site or any web site to which you are associated. If your site really is a good source of quotes, other people will add here - you don't have to engage in self-promotion.
Please don't add a link for a quotations website to every article on a person who happens to be represented in your quotes database. That is spam linking and is frowned upon. For more advice and guidelines see Wikipedia:External links. -- Solipsist 05:46, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)