Talk:Public school
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The information about what constitutes a Public school deserves its own article; it is already overly long for the flow of this article, and can be expected to grow somewhat. However, what should it be called? Public school (Britain)? Public school (British)? Public school (British English)? Any other suggestions? James F. 18:13 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- I'd suggest Public school (UK), myself. With Public school (US), if the American usage ever gets more material. Public school itself could then just be a normal disambiguation page. -- Oliver P. 19:36 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- Well, done. Hope it's as you expected :-) James F. 20:25 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Cool! And well done on updating those links, too. That must have taken a while! -- Oliver P. 21:17 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)
I've removed "In the United States, most public schools are still called public schools." which seems to be nothing but a tautology, and "(and so a reversion to one original meaning of private education)", which doesn't seem to make sense. If anyone kinows what these mean, please feel free to explain in the article. -- Oliver P. 21:21 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)
I've just realised after trying to disambiguate links to this page, that there is no Public school (US) pages. Furthermore there are nearly 40 links that mean public school in the British sense and only 5 that mean it in the US sense. So why has the UK sense been pushed off onto a page of it's own rather than the other way around? Mintguy 10:10 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- Because one could (and I may well eventually) write several tomes on the UK meaning; as it is a source of possible confusion, it helps to have a disambiguation page. Think of this as an extension of Differences between American English and British English. As Oliver said above, "if the American usage ever gets more material [...] [this] could then just be a normal disambiguation page".
- James F. 11:48 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- You miss my point. There is NO disambiguated page for the US meaning. It is not disambiguated. Nine times out of ten times, when a person creates a link for using the words "public school" they mean public school (UK), it makes sense to have this page with that meaning with a suitable disambiguation block at the top directing to public school (US) for the other sense. Mintguy 17:31 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- No, I don't think I did; my counter-point was that this is a temporary state of affairs betwixt having a proper disambiguation page here and having none - we have instead a partial disambiguation page.
- I admit that it might make more sense to have the more 'popular' definition (id est, what is now at Public school (UK)) moved to Public school, and the one less so (id est, the short commentary at Public school) moved to Public school (US), but then we'd get jumped on by the largest minority of Wikipedia readers - those from the US.
- I never meant to imply that this was a satisfactory state of affairs, merely a workable one.
- James F. 03:37 20 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Also, remember that there are schools in other countries than the UK and the US. If I wanted to write an article about secondary education in, say, Poland, then how should I distinguish between private and State-run schools? Should I refer to the latter as "public schools" (which may be confusing for the Britons) or "state schools" (which may be confusing for the Americans, since in Poland the "State" is the whole nation, not a subdivision)? How should I refer to schools run by local authorites, cooperatives, religious orders, etc? Please help. --[[User:Kpalion|Kpalion (talk)]] 14:35, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)