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Naming of PLC articles
The necessity of this survey has been disputed. See Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions#Choking_the_process.
As at 13th September 2004, there's a debate taking place at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions#Public limited companies as to whether articles about PLCs should be under the legal title of the PLC, or the colloquial name. The suggestion is that we should dissect the issue and then vote on it. The following is a skeleton for such a process; doubtless it'll be adapted over the coming days. please feel free to add arguments pro & con
Proposal 1 - List under colloquial names
In a nutshell: Company articles should be listed under their colloquial or common name, thus Tesco rather than Tesco PLC
Arguments for:
- It is standard policy
- Quickest to find location
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Arguments against:
- No consensus as to what the common or colloquial name is: Tesco or Tescos or Tesco's? Boots, or Boots the Chemist?
- These are debated on a case-by-case basis, as with every other page that adheres to this convention. Saying there is "no consensus" is a bit presumptuous. ed g2s • talk 12:29, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- (Removed personal attack). We could come to a consensus on what we might call an article. Users searching for the article would be as likely to put any of the many "common" names of tescos in ... there is no consensus in user land. (User:Tagishsimon)
- As per policy, the common name of a PLC is its legal name. Encyclopedias should not muddle up brand names and company names, else we will do more to confuse users than inform them.
- We cannot get many so-called common names to work without disambiguation; the best disambiguation might well be the PLC. Examples: Sage, Boots, BOC
- etc
Votes For
- James F. (talk) 07:42, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- ed g2s • talk 12:29, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- zoney ▓ ▒ talk 12:35, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Jallan 17:45, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- —Lowellian (talk)[[]] 03:53, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)
Votes Against
Proposal 2 - List under legal names
In a nutshell: Company articles should be listed under their legal name Tesco PLC rather than Tesco
Arguments for:
- It is easy, consistent and unambiguous to list companies under their real names
- Redirects can cater for the variety of common names that may be input by users searching for info on the company
- Common names vary from time to time - they are in essence brand names
- Full name will make it easier to find stock exchange listing and company registration details
- It will provide traceability of ownership of brands
- Web search for "Company" will return "Company plc"
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Arguments against:
- Virtually all searches on the common name will use redirects and most wikilinks will require elision of the redirect
- There is no standard on whether to use plc or PLC.
- It would be complete against policy.
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Votes For
- Ardonik.talk() 02:21, Sep 15, 2004 (UTC) - I think it looks better this way. I'd like to see this done for humans, too (i.e., George Walker Bush for the main article and George W. Bush for the redirect) but I can't always have my way.
- [[User:Noisy|Noisy | Talk]] 10:29, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Tagishsimon 11:53, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- P.Riis 15:20, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Votes Against
- ed g2s • talk 12:29, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC) As much as our natural instinct is to name a page formally, this is not Wikipedia policy.
- zoney ▓ ▒ talk 12:35, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- James F. (talk) 12:36, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC) Directly contrary to policy; absolutely mad that this kind of thing even needs discussion.
- Jallan 17:44, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC) Use the most commonly used name in English for any entity as the article name, whether company, country, person, or thing. That's already the standard here.
- —Lowellian (talk)[[]] 03:53, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)
- Jon E. (talk) 12:06, Dec 14, 2004 (UTC).
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