Talk:Pentecost

Yikes. This little article needs a lot of work. Mkmcconn 06:26 3 Jul 2003 (UTC)

better Mkmcconn 19:58, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Where was the Pentecost service that traditionally had a (paper? white silk?) dove descend on a ring sliding down a long slanting wire? Wetman 20:58, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)

The {} sign/s

One or more of the sign/s: {{NPOV}}{{expansion}}{{Cleanup}} placed on this page without any discussion, explanation or reasoning have been removed pending further discussion. (The category Category:Bible stories is now up for a vote for deletion at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#Category:Bible stories) Thank you. IZAK 08:23, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

disambig debate, copied from my talk page

Passover & Pentecost

Hi Sam, just wondering what the point was in trying to disambiguate Passover from Pentecost. Passover or Pesach is the Jewish holiday, and Shavuot occurs 7 weeks later. Pentecost is the Christian holiday that occurs seven weeks after Easter. I'm sure you know all this, so I'm simply curious what your intentions were. JFW | T@lk 17:39, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Pentacost used to redirect there [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pentacost&action=history). Since you opposed the disambig (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Passover&diff=0&oldid=15451330), I redirected it to Pentecost, and placed a disambig there (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pentecost&diff=0&oldid=15451916). I find your reverts and the reasoning for them unhelpful. Sam Spade 17:43, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing the redirect. It obviates the need for disambiguation at the top of Passover. JFW | T@lk 17:59, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

We still havn't resolved the issue of your reverts regarding the disambig header @ Pentecost however... Sam Spade 20:02, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I agree that the reader should be able to "find what they are looking for", but the previous version was misleading and incorrect.

Old version:

Note: This article is mostly about the Christian holiday of Pentecost. For the Jewish holiday of "Pentecost" see the articles on Shavuot, or passover

My version:

The name of the Jewish holiday Shavuot is commonly translated as "Pentecost".

There is only one small difference between these disambiguation lines, namely the mention of Passover. The article itself makes it abundantly clear that Pentecost is a Christian holiday, and as I stated quite clearly in my edit summary, the term "pentecost" only bears distant causal relationship and should certainly not be disambiguated at the top of the article. As far as I'm concerned there is nothing to resolve, Jack. JFW | T@lk 21:59, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Pentacost used to redirect to passover. Now it redirects to pentecost. Seems obvious to me that a link to passover be handy in the disambig. I agree that may not be perfectly precise, but disambigs arn't ment to be. They are rather a resource to help people find the article they are looking for. Sam Spade 22:03, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, the pentacost redirect was erroneous, and we should not be promulgating that error. This page is about Ford, the American car manufacturer. See also Mitsubishi. Can we please just leave this alone now? JFW | T@lk 22:21, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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