Talk:Johnny Weissmuller

According to http://multimedia.olympic.org/pdf/en_report_484.pdf Johnny Weissmuller finished the event in 1994 in 1:00.8 min (19 Jul) and 59.0 sec (20 Jul). The dates as well as the times differ from the article. Also there is no world record registered in 1922 so i don't know where this date is from.


Notes to FredR: I notice you reverted most of my changes. I agree with some, but not with all:

  • First of all, the section headings should start with == for main sections, then ===, and then ====. See also Wikipedia:Guide to Layout. I've put the headings back as I left them.
  • Second, you removed the lead section. This section is meant to give an overview to potential readers of a (long) article so that they can see if the article is what they need. This is particularly recommended for articles that want to become a Wikipedia:Featured article candidates, which is what I would ultimately want. I re-added the lead section I wrote to the article.
  • Third are the names of the Weissmuller family. You obviously have access to many official certificates (or to sources that have access), which is great. The names on these forms are all in Hungarian, while we know that Weissmuller's parents were from Swabia, Germany, and spoke German. In your original text, you also wrote both Petrus/Peter and Erszebet/Elizabeth, if I'm not mistaken. As far as I can judge, the official records have the Hungarian version of their names (which is not strange, as they lived in the Hungarian part of Austro-Hungary, but used the German versions in common life. I will try to rewrite the section to reflect this. If you have any additions to this, go ahead.

I'll be going through the rest of the page in the next few days; as I already said, I'd like to make this a featured article, and I think we could both add a lot. I'm still looking for some (public domain) pictures however, if you have any, that would be nice. Jeronimo 06:49, 20 May 2004 (UTC)

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POV Line

I removed the following line, which I found to be POV and un-provable.

He was the greatest swimmer of all time.

- DropDeadGorgias (talk) 14:45, Jul 7, 2004 (UTC)

Discrepancy with Duke Kahanamoku

The Johnny Weissmuller page says:

Johnny Weissmuller broke Duke Kahanamoku's world record 
on the 100-meters freestyle, swimming it in 58.6 seconds.

But the Duke Kahanamoku page says

On August 11, 1911, in an amateur swim meet, Kahanamoku 
was clocked at 55.4 seconds in the 100-meter freestyle, 
beating the existing world record by 4.6 seconds, 
in the salt water of Honolulu Harbor.

So, which one's correct? Is Johnny's record just the olympic record? Pyrop 05:08, Jul 9, 2004 (UTC)


Kahanamoku's record was set in the 100 yard, not meter. Weissmuller was the first to break 1 minute in the 100 meter. Jeronimo 17:32, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Five Queries

I have five queries re the following sentence: "His parents were later divorced, as is shown on the divorce document filed in Chicago by Elizabeth Weissmuller, although a lot of sources state incorrectly that Weismuller's father died of tuberculosis contracted from working in coal mines."

  • Why is it necessary to refer to the evidence of the parents' divorce? Has the fact of the divorce been disputed anywhere?
  • What is the connection between his parents' divorce and the cause of his father's death? Seems to me these are completely unrelated matters, and belong in separate sentences. Unless the divorce somehow caused the death .... ????
  • If it is not correct that his father died "of tuberculosis contracted from working in coal mines", then what is the correct cause of death?
  • Why are we talking about the cause of his father's death anyway? What does this have to do with Johnny Weismuller's life and legacy?
  • Am I missing something here?

Cheers JackofOz 03:06, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I suspect at some point this sentence read something like "His mother was widowed when his father died" and has been progressively reworked. Research and recasting is probably in order. - Nunh-huh 03:13, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

From John Weismuller, redirected here

Content from redirected page. Charles Matthews 08:15, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Born, 2 June, 1904, Died 20 January, 1984

Olympic gold medalist in swimming, Johnny Weissmuller broke three records at the 1924 Olympics in Paris.

However he is perhaps best known for playing the part of Tarzan.

Swimming Achievements

1924 Summer Olympics - Paris

  • Men's 100 m Freestyle Gold 59.0
  • Men's 400 m Freestyle Gold 5:04.2


Filmography

Glorifying the American Girl (1929) as Adonis (segment "Loveland")

Tarzan

  • Tarzan the Ape Man (1932)
  • Tarzan and His Mate (1934)
  • Tarzan Escapes (1936)
  • Tarzan Finds a Son! (1939)
  • Tarzan's Secret Treasure (1941)
  • Tarzan's New York Adventure (1942)
  • Tarzan's Desert Mystery (1943)
  • Tarzan Triumphs (1943)
  • Tarzan and the Amazons (1945)
  • Tarzan and the Leopard Woman (1946)
  • Tarzan and the Huntress (1947)
  • Tarzan and the Mermaids (1948)

Swamp Fire (1946) as Johnny Duval

Jungle Jim

  • Jungle Jim (1948)
  • The Lost Tribe (1949)
  • Mark of the Gorilla (1950)
  • Captive Girl (1950)
  • Jungle Jim in Pygmy Island (1950)
  • Fury of the Congo (1951)
  • Jungle Manhunt (1951)
  • Jungle Jim In the Forbidden Land (1952)
  • Voodoo Tiger (1952)
  • Savage Mutiny (1953)
  • Valley of Head Hunters (1953)
  • Killer Ape (1953)
  • Jungle Man-Eaters (1954)

Himself

  • Cannibal Attack (1954)
  • Jungle Moon Men (1955)
  • Devil Goddess (1955)


links

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0919321/

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