Talk:InterWiki

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Can anyone tell me how to find out what the protocol is for making links to pages of a certain name (whether created yet or not) at http://www.netunify.com project sites? I followed the external links here but I was confused whether those were the right sites or not.

I would particularly like to know whether code can easily be included in regular HTML pages (i.e., not wiki pages) but which would recognize (as do wiki pages) whether a link had already been created or not. For example, if I wanted to put a book online which I did not want to be collaborative but from which I wanted people to have the option to easily generate discussion pages from it (for any individual page as well as for the book as a whole), it would be nice to have a link on each page of the book such as "Discuss this page" or "Create a Discussion Page for this Page" (depending on whether the page had already been created at the target wiki site or not). I would think there could be some code which could check to see, when the user loaded the page, whether a corresponding discussion page had already been created or not. This could save the visitor time by not having to check each page if they had not been created yet (and would not require that each possible page be set up ahead of time at the target wiki site).

Lastly, I'd like to know what the protocol is for linking TO wikipedia from http://www.netunify.com or from regular HTML sites . Any ideas? Thanks! - Brettz9 04:01 Apr 29, 2003 (UTC)

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We've been using "InterWikiLink," or "InterLink," lately, to refer to inter-wiki links. (So to speak.)

Inter-Wiki has shifted (it seems to me) to mean, "Any technology connecting wiki." For example, Inter-Wiki page transfer technology, which is in the works. Or the "NearLink," or "Unified RecentChanges." All under the category of: "InterWiki."

At least, that's how I've been talking about these things with people. Kinda hard to figure out consensus on this sort of language issue.

-- LionKimbro

Actually, I think that's the orginal meaning of the term(s): according to MeatBall:InterWiki, "InterWiki is the idea of having one unified Wiki system distributed across many servers." i.e. it is an unattained ideal of complete interlinking of all wikis. The particular approach discussed here is called InterMap there. I'm not sure if that's any clearer than where you started, my brain feels a bit swiss-cheesy right now for some reason... - IMSoP 18:17, 4 May 2004 (UTC)

Bah, I didn't really have time to do that, but I've just completely rewritten this page. Um, oops! :-/ IMSoP 20:19, 4 May 2004 (UTC)

I've taken out the "original meaning" stuff, it was uninformative and needlessly prominent. If anywhere, it could go into a history section.--Eloquence* 00:13, May 5, 2004 (UTC)

Uh, OK; but it was meant more as a usage note than a historical one - "InterWiki" (which is just CamelCase for "inter-wiki", after all) technically just means any way of creating bonds between wikis, not just this particular implementation. It just happens that this is currently the most obvious example of inter-wiki technology. Perhaps this could be clearer if it were followed through with other examples, such as NearLinks and TwinPages - perhaps explained in an extra section. (See MeatBall:CategoryInterCommunity for some other related concepts) - IMSoP 10:57, 5 May 2004 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I think without actually discussing these other concepts mentioning that there are other concepts is pretty pointless. So yes, there should be different sections for the different meanings.--Eloquence* 11:01, May 5, 2004 (UTC)

Well, indeed, but see my comment above: "I didn't really have time to do that"; maybe if no-one else does I'll fix it in a few weeks when I've finished my degree (or maybe just next time I'm procrastinating) :-D IMSoP 20:03, 5 May 2004 (UTC)

Just a quick note in case someone other than me adds to the article: it occurred to me that Wikipedia's interlanguage links are more like a semi-internal MeatBall:TwinPages scheme than MeatBall:InterMap - they are out-of-line, and link to the same information on a different wiki. Allowing InterWiki redirects, meanwhile (e.g. from Wikipedia to Wiktionary) provides us with a kind of MeatBall:NearLink system. And an interesting possible feature to ponder would be internal NearLinks for namespaces - a Wikipedia: page could look for other Wikipedia: as well as article namespace pages if no namespace was explicitly given, which begins to be more like PeriPeri:ContextualLinking (http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~cjp39/Peri/ContextualLinking) (d'oh! no InterMap there from here) - IMSoP 23:59, 6 May 2004 (UTC)

Does this page make sense in an encyclopedia? If so it needs to be cleaned up. anthony 警告 12:25, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I would love to write this page better.

I'd talk about things like:

• Unified Recent Changes
• Inter Link (what is described in the present page), Near Link, Local Names
• Sister Sites
• shared ban lists

I'd also link to several C2, Meatball, and CommunityWiki pages, at a minimum.

But I'm personally involved in much of the technology, especially Local Names, I believe that means I'm not allowed to work on the page. (Is this a correct understanding?)

LionKimbro

Unified Recent Changes, Near Link, Inter Link, Sister Sites

Again:

InterWiki is *any technology related to connecting wiki.*

Four such technologies are the UnifiedRecentChanges, NearLink, InterLink (or InterWikiLink), and SisterSites.

We hope to soon have page transfer.

This page is acting as if the InterWikiLink is InterWiki, which is just plain false.