Talk:Hong Taiji

The same old question. Was Hong Taiji's personal name really Abahai? Nanshu 22:57, 19 Sep 2003 (UTC)

As suggested by Mgmei, I read "The emperor 'Abahai': Analysis of a Historical Mistake," by Giovanni Stary (Central Asiatic Journal, 28, Nos. 3-4 (1984), pp. 296-9). Neither Manchu, Chinese nor Korean sources refer him as Abahai. So Giovanni Stary investigated when and why the Western mistake had happened. He found Russian documents call him Abachaj in the middle 19th century. He supposed that Abahai was the misinterpretation of "abkai sure," the first era name of Hong Taiji. He guessed that Abahai came from the Chinese syllabic pronunciation of abkai (abka "sky" + GEN.) but I think it's likely that they misread abkai in Manchu (as I often did). --Nanshu 01:40, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)


What is the Manchu romanisation of Hong Taiji (like Nurhaci)? — Instantnood 01:49, Jan 31 2005 (UTC)

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