Talk:Cinema of India
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This article has been listed at Wikipedia:Duplicate articles. Cinema of India can incorporate the History of cinema in India. The former has very less content and the latter doesn't talk anything about history. Jay 17:49, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Merged the two pages. --Wolf530 01:17, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Yet another round with Surya
Surya, I did lots of googling on Satyajit Ray. I don't think your edit saying that he was as commercially successful in India as he was overseas was anywhere close to the truth. His international success may have pleased Indians, but that didn't mean they watched his movies. I found one web site -- Manas -- that said his films were shown in Bengal and on the international art-house circuit, and unknown to the rest of India. So I rewrote the sentence.
I also took out -- again -- your statement that "most people call them art films". Which people? In which language? Art films is a huge category, covering a hundred years of films from every country on earth. Calling the New Indian Cinema "art films" is about as useful as pointing out that they were filmed in 35 mm. It is not a distinguishing characteristic.
I did try to anchor the phenomenon more firmly in time, from the start to the end of state sponsorship (related, I'm sure, to the fall of the Congress party and the rejection of heavy-handed state socialism). I also mentioned a few recent indie films. It seems that the Indian movie industry is going to be like the West -- big players making big-budget mass-appeal films and aspiring auteurs making quirky films that occasionally hit it big.
- Satyajit Ray was very well-known in India, and I guess I should have made that more clear. As for the "art film" appellation, you don't have a clue about it! Practically all Indian journalists and the majority of Indian cinema-goers distinguish between what they call art films and mainstream films (Bollywood, etc.). You're trying to impose your book-knowledge on the realities of Indian film and its quite pathetic. I want to show you first-hand why your constant posturing is ludicrous and why you have a lot more to learn. Just hit ctrl-f and run a search on "art film" in the following pages. You'll see that film students, professionals, and lay-people all refer to them as art films. This is just a raw sampling of random Google hits. Just search on your own for "art film." It doesn't matter that the term is ambiguous on an international context because it's still the standard term used by Indians for their cinema styles.
- [1] (http://www.planetbollywood.com/Features/s100103-145009.php)
- [2] (http://www.pyara.com/stars/madhuri/biography.cfm)
- [3] (http://www.musicindiaonline.com/MIO-Artists/MusicDirectors/Pages/VanrajBhatia.html)
- [4] (http://www.mp3.com/Indian-Art-Film-Music/genre/896/levelthree.html)
- [5] (http://movies.indiatimes.com/articleshow/18452214.cms)
- You need to lose your pretensions of omniscience really quick. --LordSuryaofShropshire 20:17, Aug 16, 2004 (UTC)