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Thanks to Uriyan for adding to this article. My daughter's nickname is Éowyn. Ed Poor 08:26 Jul 23, 2002 (PDT)
Weird, I edited this page once, then come back a few hours to find no edits or records of my edits on the history page. I will redo them, but if for some reason they later disappear again or show up on the history page as duplicates, I don't want you all tho think that I have lost it just yet!Fire Star 04:48, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Well, the edits were stored on the "Edit this page" page. That is nice, but for some reason I'm not refreshing what I see with the latest page...Fire Star 04:51, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I'm glad there's a family tree. Let's add one to Éomer's as well.
The intro paragraph says:
- The actors in the Lord of the Rings movie trilogy consistently mispronounce her name and the names of Éomer and Théoden, which both are pronounced similarly.
63.21.57.135 added:
- Contrary to what others may believe, Éowyn is pronounced properly in the recent Peter Jackson adaptation of the Books by J. R. R. Tolkien.
So who is correct? I commented out the anon's addition for now because it sounded more POV. Dangerous Angel 09:16, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
Well, my name is Éowyn, so I hope the second one is correct. By the way, what is POV? I'm a newer user of this site and don't know everything about it yet.
POV = point of view. Wikipedia aims for NPOV, or neutral point of view, so anything that sounds prejudiced for or against the subject of the article is likely to be edited.
So is that a good thing that the second post, which I added, was POV or not? Because I would say that if someone's name is Éowyn, that they should know how to pronounce it. When I tell people my name I get varying comments. Once I told someone and they said, "Don't you mean Arwen?" Good grief, I should think I could pronounce and remember my own name. But the origin is Gaelic, Éowyn is just a mutation of the original Øwyn. Tolkien probably felt he wanted to add his own touch, so they weren't either a Gaelic or a made-up people group, somewhere in between.
The article can't present two points of view without clearly labelling that they are POV. Tolkien knew how his names should be pronounced and wrote a great deal in the appendices to LOTR and elsewhere. Here he talks of this very point: "The 'outer' or Mannish names of the Dwarves have been given Northern forms, but the letter-values are those described. So also in the case of the personal and place-names of Rohan (where they have not been modernized), except that here éa and éo are diphthongs, which may be represented by the ea of English bear, and the eo of Theobald..."
There are recordings of Tolkien reading from his works - does anyone have him pronouncing these names? That should be definitive. Pete 00:53, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)