MediaWiki talk:Noarticletext

See also MediaWiki talk:Newarticletext

Template:Ilm

Writing in Wiki is not very intuitive. It just contributes to the increasing number of mark-up languages.

OK, I have changed the text to Edit and made it a link. It's a bit messy, and I don't know if it will work on all pages. Dori | Talk 14:24, Jun 13, 2004 (UTC)

Beautiful. ✏ Sverdrup 14:28, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Actually, this does not work on empty category pages ([1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cats)). I think it's okay to keep it, though. ✏ Sverdrup 11:22, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I changed "on this topic": there may well be a page on the topic, but with a slightly different name.--Patrick 00:53, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Contents

1 Namespace in wiktionary link 2 Strange characters 3 Add direct search function to "article does not exist" page 4 Delays? 5 I don't get it 6 remove "yet"? 7 Missing dot 8 Namespace dependent 9 bugzilla:2388

Namespace in wiktionary link

The new [[Wiktionary:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}|{{PAGENAME}}]] link results in an extra colon in non-namespaced pages. How about [http://en.wiktionary.org{{localurl:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}}} {{PAGENAME}}] ? Goplat 19:58, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Strange characters

The "edit this page" link creates wrong article titles in case the page name contains brackets or comma - e.g. "Test (city)" becomes "Test %28city%29)". I guess it was the exchange of PAGENAME by PAGENAMEE. andy 08:47, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Add direct search function to "article does not exist" page

Currently, if an article does not exist, the visitor gets a message with three options:

• Edit this page
• Look into the Wiktionairy
• Look at the candidates for speedy deletion.

I propose to add an option "search for this". When I want to know something about a certain subject, I type it directly into the address bar. Recently, I typed "w are you being served", and received the Article does not exist page. It turned out to be called "Are You Being Served?". I had to paste the text I was looking for into the search form to search for it. If the 'does not exist' message would have had an option "search for this", it would not have been neceserry to do the latter. I'm sure it would be a useful feature, the only minor disadvantage being that the 'does not exist' message would grow. Gerritholl 14:29, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I've added a link to the search to this and MediaWiki:Newarticletext. Angela. 13:17, Nov 6, 2004 (UTC)

Delays?

"If you have created this page in the past few minutes and it has not yet appeared, it may not be visible due to a delay in updating the database. Please wait and check again later before attempting to recreate the page." (formatting removed)

1. Is this a new problem? This message wasn't there until a short time ago.
2. Does this belong on MediaWiki:Newarticletext? Remember that only that message (not this one) wil be seen by those following a broken link (commonly called a red link but this can be changed). Brianjd 08:31, 2005 Jan 5 (UTC)

1. It has recently been a large problem. There's numerous posts over on Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) from people who are seeing this and related problems. Because they don't see their article, they hit back in their browser, and re-save it. This causes the article to be created twice, which creates all sorts of other fun problems with categories and what links here.
2. Yes, it should have been added there too. I just didn't realize there was more than one place it needed to go before I needed to allocate time to other things. -- Cyrius|✎ 12:43, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I don't get it

Everytime I edit this template, it keeps saying that no article exists. But the template does exist! Do you think I should file a bug report? K. Thanks. - Ta bu shi da yu 10:41, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I think the people who handle bug reports are very busy lately. You should wait precisely 15 days and then file it. -- Curps 17:37, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Delete, fancruft. (with apologies to Silsor) — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:44, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

remove "yet"?

I suggest that we should remove "yet" from the sentence "Wikipedia does not yet have an article with this exact name." To me, this implies that we don't have the article now but we should have one. If someone types blahblah into the search box and hits "Go" and gets this message, he might feel that he should start the article. I'm basing this off a few isolated comments from users who thought they were supposed to add those articles but which got put on VFD or were speedily deleted. Maybe this word change isn't a big deal. Thoughts? — Knowledge Seeker দ 09:01, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I'd suggest something along the lines of:

Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name.

Would you like to:

Start the FOO article

<the other options>

I think it would strike a balance between "there doesn't necessarily need to be an article here" and "yes, you can write an article if you want to". -- Cyrius|✎ 15:40, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sounds good to me, although perhaps "Would you like to:" could be something like "You may choose one of the following:" or something. Anyone else have any thoughts? — Knowledge Seeker দ 00:02, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

"You may choose..." seems a little too formal to me. -- Cyrius|✎ 13:33, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, it seems too formal to me too. I hesitate using "Would you like to:" for two reasons: One is that as I understand it, colons should normally follow complete sentences. Although I don't always follow this, I feel that this text is "official" enough that it should be written more correctly. The other is, along the same lines, I feel like it is a question and should end in a question mark, which would look awkward. Let me think about other ways to reword it. — Knowledge Seeker দ 17:46, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I removed "yet". We may add "However, you can create one."--Patrick 12:44, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Removing the "yet" sounds reasonable. We shouldn't have an article for every single text string someone inadvertantly types into the Search box. --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 21:33, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Missing dot

The line "Search for <article> in other articles" lacks a dot at the end. I think this should be fixed. Meneth 15:42, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Thanks; I added periods to the first two options. — Knowledge Seeker দ 16:49, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Namespace dependent

The German Wikipedia has de:MediaWiki_Diskussion:Newarticletext namespace dependent noarticletexts. This is a good idea: compare de:Bild:Stelvio.jpg and Image:Stelvio.jpg. How could this be implemented for the English language Wikipedia? Gerrit ^{CUTEDH (http://topjaklont.student.utwente.nl/)} 21:58, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

bugzilla:2388

See: bugzilla:2388 – "handling: add a "purge" link to MediaWiki:Noarticletext" Regards Gangleri | Th (https://academickids.com:443/encyclopedia/index.php?title=User_talk:Gangleri&action=history) | T 03:23, 2005 Jun 19 (UTC)

Good idea, done.--Patrick 13:57, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)