Talk:Visual Basic .NET
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The My class a pseudo-class?
I believe the My class is a pseudo-class that the VB.NET compiler converts to direct references to .NET Framework features, not a "class library" that would have to be distributed with your application. But I haven't played with a preview to confirm this... Mark Hurd 15:06, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)
VB vs VB.NET; and "Express Ed."
I realise that referring to VB5/6 as VB is a convenient shorthand, but the language as a whole remains Visual Basic, mostly due to its heritage in BASIC and the retention of a lot of the syntax. The .NET power is mostly in the libraries, and in that sense, all of the .NET languages are more or less equivalent in that they are just different wrappers around the library functions.
Incidentally, I see the introduction of the "Express Edition" as a way to hook up computer owners with a programming language "out of the box" in the same way that every computer used to come with BASIC as standard. In the old days, BASIC was pretty much the entire OS. Nowadays, there's not a lot of base grade exposure to VB, unless you count VBScript and stuff in Office, and that's pretty cruddy. A teenager with his first computer is unlikely to go out and buy VS 2003, or even VB.NET 2003 - it's easier, cheaper and more immediately useful to learn Java.
Getting "edit and continue" back will be great. Lousy for source code control, but oh so convenient! Pete 22:57, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I like VB.NET, but I do understand where the people who say it's a totally different language are coming from. They really are different in significant ways - it's a Basic that's "grown up", but it lost something along the way. Microsoft has been trying to bring the two concepts back together, and that is represented by the name change, but I'm not 100% sure they've managed it, yet. I need to spend more time trying out the 2005 version, as I've only just managed to get access to an MSDN subscription for it.
- I think you're right about the Express editions. I'm glad they're bringing something like that back, because it truly was a pain trying to get some sort of a student edition here in the UK. As for source control . . . yeah, there are some VB.NET applications that need it (probably more now that it's a "serious" language), but for line-of-business stuff, you just have one guy in the office who needs it to "work, now, damnit!" :-) GreenReaper 23:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Ext lks all over
Is there a way we could avoid the sprinkling of external links everywhere in the article? IMO it's a tad distracting when one tries to concentrate on the text (which we should, serious pursuers of knowledge that we are...). While not arguing the removal of each and every ext lk from the text proper, I do think their number needs to be reduced. --Wernher 05:19, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)