Talk:Shakers
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This sentence appears to contradict the rest of the article:
- Men and women exchanged sexual partners frequently within the community, while breaking up all exclusive romantic attachments, which were described as "social love", antisocial behavior threatening communal order.
However I don't feel comfortable removing or editing it -- RTC 03:18 Nov 16, 2002 (UTC)
Perhaps they are confusing the Shakers with the Oneida Community (1848-1881). -- RTC 01:22 May 1, 2003 (UTC)
I have no problem removing this obviously false statement. Jmabel 01:56, 27 Jan 2004 (UTC)
The article alltogether seems a bit unstructured -- only to me? -- till we *) 23:04, Aug 1, 2003 (UTC)
- Yes, it could be helped a lot by better structure. Mkmcconn 23:29, 3 Aug 2003 (UTC)
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Victorian
Can we consider this within the frame of Victorian sexual moral?
Still accepting members?
This paragraph:
- There remain today a few devoted followers who live in New England in the Sabbathday Lake community in Maine.
was recently removed and replaced with a statement that the Sabbathday Lake community still accepts new members (other edits were made at the same time). Does anyone have any documentation on either side of this factual disagreement? -- Jmabel 04:52, Sep 4, 2004 (UTC)
Not sure this is exactly a factual disagreement. What I've heard from several different tour guides at the Canterbury, New Hampshire Shaker Village is:
1) There are 4 members of the Sabbathday Lake community--2 sisters and 2 brothers 2) The community still occasionally accepts new recruits, although often they try it out for a while and then leave. The most recent new recruits to stay the course were the 2 brothers, who joined the community in the seventies. --A Brit Abroad 22:40, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Origin of Name
Forgive me as I'm posting this to both [Shakers] and [Quakers]...
I've heard that the name actually comes from a part of scripture that mentions an earthquake (started by God) or something to that effect. I'm not sure where in the scriptures, so that is another mystery. Basically the story I heard was that the Quakers' scriptures say quake and and the Shakers scripture says that the ground was made to shake. I know it sounds silly, but I heard this from a relative (who has now passed) that actually knew a lot about both groups and took many vacations in their historical towns. Now that I think about it, I believe she heard this from a guide at a/the Shaker village (in Ohio?). Of course, it's hearsay and could be completely false. If anyone has any more information on this, by all means enlighten us.JoeHenzi 01:04, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Shakers in Connecticut
Regarding the "...at Enfield (or Shaker Station), Connecticut..." line, I've never heard of a "Shaker Station", but the area the Shakers lived in is the present-day Shaker Pines village/district, which contains Shaker Pines Lake. (I'd have to check to see whether it's a village or a district, since they do have their own fire department and mail is addressed to Shaker Pines, CT, but I don't believe they have their own ZIP code or census district.) The Wadsworth Atheneum also has a large collection of period Shaker furniture that's credited as being from Shaker Pines, not Shaker Station. Point is, I believe it should be pointed out what the present name is, since I've only found two sources that use the name Shaker Station ([1] (http://www.dwbooks.com/shaker/enfield.htm)[2] (http://62.1911encyclopedia.org/E/EN/ENFIELD.htm)), and it clearly hasn't been in use for decades. Beginning 03:39, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
- Changing "or Shaker Station" to "then also known as Shaker Station". Could've done this yourself... -- Jmabel 05:44, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
- Like most responsible editors, I don't change things I'm not 100% sure about. My apologies for the apparent inconvenience. Beginning 16:49, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
Other meanings
"The Shakers is also the nickname of Bury Football Club in England. I'm not entirely sure whether that belongs in this article, though. Hectorthebat 22:52, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC) I'll add it appropriately. -- Jmabel 23:47, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
another external link
The link to the Canterbury, NH community should be added:
There should also probably me more about that community as well, but I'm not sure what, as this is my first contribution. (unsigned, from Prgrmr)