Talk:Outsider Art
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I am an Outsider/Self Taught Artist Working and Living In Rockaway Beach New York And Every Time I Look On The Internet For Outsider?self taught Art It is Always The Same Tight Encapsulated Label Or Title About this Form Sincerly James Anthony Chambers email: outsiderartistjamesachambers@yahoo.com
It seems to me that the "Art Brut" entry should probably be absorbed into the "Outsider art" entry. I've just dropped in, so I don't want to do that unilaterally. Any opinions?--BTfromLA 18:32, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Is Thym a notable outsider artist?
I'm tempted to delete the listing of Thym among outsider artists--he's certainly an interesting figure, and in some respects related to the concerns of outsider art, but he is from an earlier century and primarily a writer. In other words, he isn't really established as a figure in the same category with Darger, Wolfli, Gill, etc. Any thoughts? --BTfromLA 19:04, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- I agree. In general, I think the section should be renamed "Notable Outsider artists" and should only include the absolute cream of the crop, along with a link to the category. I dont think we want it to become too bloated with every and any outsider artist that has an article, it should just direct people unfamiliar with outsider art to the most notable figures with the best developed pages. Thym is interesting but I dont think he belongs--Clngre 20:31, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)
Great Apes as Outsider Artists?
I was reading about outsider art for pretty much the first time just now and I just kept thinking about the paintings made by great apes such as Michael (a gorilla, Koko's buddy) or Fauna Foundation (http://www.faunafoundation.org/) chimpanzees. Could they or are they currently considered as "outsider artists?" The label does seem to fit, as I doubt these painters have been much influenced by mainstream art... --bad_leprechaun 04:23, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
Disambiguating Art Brut the band
If there's a need to offer a link to the band Art Brut, please create a seperate disambiguation page for the term "Art Brut," which is now redirected here. While a discussion of Art Brut is included on the Outsider Art page, it is not correct to say that "this article is about the Art Brut movement." BTfromLA 14:47, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
- Please do this yourself if you feel so strongly about it, rather than just removing the link without doing it. Art Brut is a redirect, if it's not just another name for Outsider Art then perhaps it ought not to be a redirect at all? Morwen - Talk 15:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
- Done. You should have accepted responsibilty for this, though, since you are the one who wanted the change. As to why it was redirected and how Art Brut relates to Outsider Art--did you bother to read even the intro of the article you were editing? BTfromLA 16:38, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, obviously. When I made that original edit I was uncomfortable with the exact wording, but couldn't think of another way to put it that wouldn't be horribly confusing, and certainly didn't feel confident enough to make Art Brut a redirect. I'm sure you would have reacted even more hostilely to that. Explaining the exact relation between the two terms would obviously be too long for a disambiguation note at the top, I was hoping that editors would be tolerant enough to allow a slight glossing for the sake of expediency. Morwen - Talk 22:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
- Fair enough, Morwen. Sorry if I came across as hostile. I think we have a satisfactory resolution now, yes? BTfromLA 00:21, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
- That was my mistake, I jumped to that conclusion based on the state of that band article at the time. Started our exchange on a bad foot. My apology. BTfromLA 18:37, 27 May 2005 (UTC)