Talk:Mujahideen
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This needs some of the less "freedom fighter" aspects added: The mujahideen are well-known to have engaged in brutal war crimes and mass killing, particularly of those from rival tribal groups (Abdullah Shah's massacres of ethnic Hazaras are among the most notorious). This is why the Taliban driving the jihadi commanders out of power was so popular. --Delirium 01:49, Apr 28, 2004 (UTC)
Shouldn't the same form of the word "mujahideen" used throughout the article? An alternative form is used in the section "Mujahideen in Iraq". I am considering changing it. Doogee 16:48, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of Osama bin Laden in the section on the Afghani mujahideen? He was certainly an influence.
See also
This has a rather odd "See also" section. Needs sorting out.—iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 00:31, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)
Actually, this article is incorrect. As a supporter of the Afghan resistance, we never worked with Bin Laden or any of his associates. Bin Laden was an enemy of our efforts and this article completely compromises the integrity of the anti-Soviet forces. Whoever wrote it owes the freedom fighters an apology.
- This is true! This paragraph has serious flaws:
- A wealthy Saudi named Osama bin Laden was a prominent mujahideen organizer and financier; his Maktab al-Khadamat (MAK) (Office of Order) funnelled money, arms, and Muslim fighters from around the world into Afghanistan, with the assistance and support of the American, Pakistani, and Saudi governments. In 1988, bin Laden broke away from the MAK with some of its more militant members to form Al-Qaida, in order to expand the anti-Soviet resistance effort into a worldwide Islamic fundamentalist movement.
- There needs to be paragraphs of credit to the fighters who fought for years before Osama and Ayman al-Zawahiri decided this was a good place to launch propaganda and train fighters (about 400 at it's height, but that is from a biased source and I believe it. I can't edit articles about that issue...). I have sources, some from the BBC documentary "The Rise of Politics of Fear". I hope that others can use that as a place to start research. There needs to be credit for a man (who's name I can't find) who fought the Soviets for years and was killed by Ayman al-Zawahiri or his associates to plant Osama as a figurehead. They weren't as successful as this article leads you to belive. Osama needs to be put in the timeline. It's a grave error that us Americans don't know more about the real events that took place, and who is really responsible for the Soviets loss (the Soviets themselves, not Osama bin Laden). Sorry I'm ranting. JoeHenzi 05:48, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
And doesn't "Khadamat" mean "Services"--Khidmaath, actually.—iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 19:20, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)
JoeHenzi is right, The US never funded Bin Laden. I'm getting this from Steve Coll's "Ghost Wars."