Talk:Missoula, Montana

Tipu's

I'm new to this, so please bear with me if I'm doing anything wrong. Anyway, as much as I like Tipu's, isn't the Tipu's related entry dangerously close to violating the following wikipedia policy: "Please do not create an article to promote yourself, a product, or a business"? Basically, what's to prevent someone from creating similar entries for every restaurant in town? Dknadler 17:43, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Consensus may side with you, but every other resturaunt in town is NOT COMPLETELY BIZARRE. Hyacinth 17:57, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

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That's highly subjective. I find Tipu's to be, on the whole, rather mundane. If I were to create an entry for a restaurant, based upon my personal opinion that it was COMPLETELY BIZARRE, I would look no further than the demented halls of the Oxford Cafe. Does that warrant an entry?

Honestly, I don't want to start an argument over something so trivial, but it does seem that Tipu's stands to benefit the most from it's inclusion in the Missoula entry. And, as far as I know, Tipu's is primarily in the business of selling food. Dknadler 18:31, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

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Granted, the Oxford is bizarre(!). However, as the article doesn't promote Tipu's or its products, and also describes Tipu's sexism, I don't think that is the proper objection. It would seem to me that since companies may be described on Wikipedia (Procter & Gamble), and on "Missoula, Montana" (Montana Snowbowl), so may be Tipu's. Thus you're objection may be based on the fact that Tipu's is a small local resturaunt, and not a huge national or multinational.

Based on the above, I created a "Notable eateries" section, and listed the Oxford. Please list why the Ox is notable/bizarre. Hyacinth 19:06, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

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I lived in Missoula my entire life growing up (1980-1998), and I have never been to or even heard of Tipu's. I have to agree with Dknadler on this one. Why does this one restaurant warrant an entry in an encyclopedic work? I would understand if it were the site of some event of great importance, but as I said, I didn't even know about it. I have at least heard of the Oxford, which does have some measure of notoriety, but even so I still question whether it belongs in this kind of work. Luke Powell 02:30, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

What about Montana Snowbowl? What makes a ski hill more encyclopedic than a resturaunt? You all may be interested in Wikipedia:Importance, a proposed policy. Hyacinth 04:02, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I understand where you're coming from here, but even so it's a little easier to justify a ski mountain than a restaurant for me. There are only two in Missoula, and both are listed. There are many many restaurants. I think it's almost impossible to be objective about which are included and which are not. For example, two of my favorite restaurants are The Depot and Shadow's Keep. They're not listed, which gives the listed restaurants an advantage over their competitors. That's not really in the spirit of what Wikipedia's about, IMHO. - Luke Powell 12:46, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Here's a thought. Based on the following entry from the Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not page:

Travel guides. An article on Paris should mention landmarks such as the Eiffel Tower and the Louvre, but not the telephone number of your favorite hotel or the price of a café au lait on the Champs-Elysées. (Such details are, however, very welcome at Wikitravel ([1] (http://wikitravel.org/)).

I propose we start a Missoula page at Wikitravel and move the mention of the restaurants over there. What are your thoughts? --Luke Powell 04:10, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Sounds good. However, ski hills are not notable (at least not in MT) and should be moved also. Hyacinth 00:57, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

WTF Tipu's

No more Tipu's...the power of wiki

Please Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Thanks.

And remember... ...the power of wiki works both ways. Hyacinth 21:42, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)