Talk:Mediterranean Sea
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Obsolete map
The map on this page is obsolete. It features Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and Soviet Union, both of which dissolved in the early 1990s. --Romanm 19:25, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- I noticed this yesterday and fixed it :) --Joy [shallot] 15:10, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Mediterranean flood
Some sources say that the current mediterranean sea was created 5-8 million years ago when the natural dam at Gibraltar was breached. See fx flood. That should be mentioned in this article. Does anyone have any good links about that subject? Thue 16:25, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Fixed - I reworded that paragraph completely with info from the book Noah's Flood. andy 17:26, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Middle earth
An anonymous contributor added the following:
- Europe was probably formerly called Mediterranea (Middle Earth) before the Romans conquered it, and renamed it Europe after the goddess Europa. The Mediterranean Sea was named after the land next to it, as seas often are.
I am not aware of the basis for this, but please reinstate if you can find some support for it . -- ALoan (Talk) 22:55, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Mare Nostrum
Hi. There is no explanation in the article as to why the Romans called the Mediterranean "Mare Nostrum" (Our Sea). The name was a referrence to the fact that at that point in history Rome ruled all the land bordering the sea. Obviously, the name only came into being once such a conquest was achieved (in the 2nd century A.D., if I'm not mistaken). I'm uncertain whether this should be added to this article or if the article "Mare Nostrum", which is currently a redirect to this article, should be made into a main article concerning this very specific name given to the Mediterranean. Any thoughts? Regards, Redux 16:41, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
sea water analysis
Bizarre POV?
Does it strike anyone else as somewhat eccentric for an encyclopedia article to assert
- The perfect little Sea that geology gave Western history is, in many ways, in great jeopardy.
...? Definitions of what perfection constitutes for a sea, and in what ways human tinkering represents jeopardy to it, seem to require reifying a Sea as an entity with inherent aesthetic or moral properties. Or is it just me? Adhib 15:45, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Someone should construct an ecology section that is more specific about our careless treatment of the sea, the comment has very little to do with geology. Geological processes will continue in one form or another no matter what we do to the Mediterranean Sea. --Csnewton 15:53, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
Hebrew
The use of Hebrew letters in an English text strikes me as unconventional. I believe that words in non-English alphabets should only ever be used parenthetically. There is no way for an English speaker who doesn't read the Hebrew alphabet to read this sentence. Bathrobe
A warning about Roylee edits
Please read Roylee edits with a critical stance. Much of what he contributes to articles constitutes individual research or POV statements. I'd suggest reading his user talk page and specifically al the deletions he has made from his user talk page. Much of his work and actions draws heavy criticism from the Wiki community. --Csnewton 16:07, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
West Africa Accessed the Mediterranean Superhighway
FIRST: Read Advanced Prehistoric Ships.
SECOND: Read History of Suez Canal.
THIRD: Read History of North Africa.
- Originally, much of North Africa was inhabited by black Africans, including Upper Egypt, as demonstrated by Saharan rock art throughout the region; however, this does not appear to have been the case in the Maghreb and Lower Egypt, which were inhabited by white Africans speaking Afro-Asiatic languages. Following the desiccation of the Sahara, most black Africans migrated South into East and West Africa.
- Clearly, the colorful map posted at Afro-Asiatic languages shows the dwindling effect the Roman Empire had on Nile-Saharan languages.
FOURTH: The Mende peoples apparently were attracted to the Sahara Desert (ecoregion) because of climatic similarities with the Sudan. See Deserts and xeric shrublands: Palearctic ecozone, bottom of page.
- History of ancient Egypt shows a possible link between ancient Egypt and the Mende-peoples.
FIFTH: Assuming Phoenicians were of a non-African race (my personal experiences have shown that many non-Africans today [especially Britons] prefer to believe this), 2500 years is insufficient to account for the huge Phoenician contribution to the Saharan gene pool. See PubMed (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11393336) reference posted at Sahara: History.
- Why? Because the Greeks and Phoenicians both occupied the same region beginning around the same time. But there is no indication of a Greek contribution to the gene pool. Apparently, either Phoenician-Saharan intermarriage persisted over that time interval at an exceptionally higher than normal rate or the Phoenician presence in the region is far older than recorded history suggests ... or both.
- In which case the consequences are that either the Phoenicians were of an African race or the Phoenicians were the West African Saharan shipbuilders credited with our earliest indications of shipbuilding ... or both.
SIXTH: Read North Africa: History. The prehistoric Moroccans and Algerians seem to have been far ahead of the rest of the world in terms of fashioning hand items such as figurines and tools.
SEVENTH: Nome (Egypt): Why are harpoons mentioned there? Harpoons were prevalent in West Africa as early as 3000 BC. See History of West Africa. So, did ancient whales venture into the Mediterranean Sea for Egyptian capture? Or was something else going on -- for example, seafaring ships between Egypt and West Africa?
- Motor and Engine Technology is Older than this Timeline Indicates may be appropriate to reference here.
CONCLUSION: The Trans-Saharan trade's very existence establishes that there was interest in trading. So, why do you assume that ancient Egypt was not trading with West Africa when a careful analysis of all the above evidence indicates otherwise?
Happy Reading!!-- Roylee
Mediterranean
Currently Mediterranean redirects to this page. A lot of the pages that use the word use it in the sense of the lands surrounding the Med Sea, not the sea itself (e.g. plant and animal distributions). Seems to me it ought to be a separate page, discussing the similar biogeography, climate, etc., of the southern fringes of Europe and the north coast of Africa. Anyone care to get it going? - MPF 15:23, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I think it's a wonderful idea to have Mediterranean become a seperate article from this one. Go for it! Missing image
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