Talk:List of vegetables
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Would an avocado be one of those things that is botanically a fruit but commonly thought of in the gustatory world as a veggie? --Qaz
And what about the tomato? -- Zoe
The tomato is a fruit. --Two Halves
O.k., I'll play nice. The tomato is often used the way that a vegetable is used, and I appreciate the clarification made in the article. --Two Halves
Other things on the list would have to be taken off too if we took off all the fruits as determined botanically, eggplant for instance. --Qaz
:as this is a reference index I think it would be better for things to appaer on both lists (fruits and vegetables) rather than be excluded for technicalities- I would like to see this page eventually link to thorough articles on each item in order to act as a 'portal' to an in depth growing guide that gardeners (for example) could then bookmark for reference. tomatoes, aubergines and other solanaceae would be included in most veg growing or cooking guides, wheras apples, pears, cherries clearly wouldn't quercus robur
Hey, where are all the Chinese vegetables that my elders cook? (And there are tons of them.) Unfortunately, I am more American than Chinese and I can not list any of them... But there must be some real Chinese cooks out there. -- User:Steveyeh:Steveyeh
What's with all this "actually fruits, but treated as vegetables" business? All fruits are vegetables! PRB 13:54, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Pasted below are the following three items which were cut out from the bottom of the list - they were placed there out of alphabetic order;
- DrumStick(available in Kathikaamam, Tamil Eelam.)
- Ladies Finger (Available in Vanni, Tamil Eelam.)
- Brinjal (Available India, Tamil Eelam, Sri Lanka, Pakistan.)
- Ladies finger is another name for okra, which is already listed.
- Brinjal is a name (Indian subcontinent) for aubergine/eggplant, also listed.
- Drumstick - I know this, I've even eaten it! Can't quite name it though, but it may already be in the list.
Imc 21:38, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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Amerigo not found
I can't find Amerigo in Google as the name of a bean. I think it needs to have a solid reference before listing. Is it just a variety? And if so of what species? WormRunner | Talk 05:56, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Lemongrass
Hmm, if lemongrass can be included here, what's to stop the other herbs such as thyme or basil from being included as well? Lemon grass is not eaten raw like you would a carrot or a stick of celery to my knowledge. And if you did try so, then you'd better chew carefully for the leaves can cut your tongue like a paper can cut your finger. You do not add seasoning to lemongrass just to eat it. Instead you use lemongrass as a seasoning to flavor a dish. It's also used medicinally in some parts of Asia. --Dara 11:38, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
What should go in this list
I have reverted an anonymous user's wholesale reduction of the list. While I agree with some of the deletions, the overall effect was to reduce the usefulness of the list. Sweet corn is used as a vegetable, as are nettles. There is no justification for eliminating such vegetables as Kohlrabi, and so forth. Perhaps we can agree on a list of guidelines for inclusion? -- WormRunner | Talk 20:53, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
To start things off, vegetable is a culinary term and has no botanical meaning. Fruit, on the other hand, has a very specific botanical meaning and a very nebulous culinary one. Pears and pineapple are both considered fruits in a culinary sense, while zucchini, sweet corn and chard are considered vegetables. Cereal grains are botanically a kind of fruit, but except for sweet corn are often not considered to be either a vegetable or a fruit in a culinary sense. The herbs overlap with vegetables in that some plants are used either as medicine or flavoring (herb), or as a food with substance (vegetable). A plant part would only be considered a vegetable if you are using chunks of it, not a powder or extract. Sage is entirely an herb, whereas fennel can be used as either one. I would be in favor of including anything here which has a reasonably important vegetable use, regardless of whether or not it is botanically a fruit, seed or what have you, or can be considered an herb in some contexts. -- WormRunner | Talk 23:52, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- It's just a list page. Anything that is commonly thought of as a vegetable should go in, never mind the tchnicalities of scientific classification, that way the page is much more useful to users. There's a blurb at the top of the page that clarifies this point already quercus robur 00:30, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Christoferine
added to the list. had one in portugal 30 ys. ago, looked tasted like a bittermelon but was green. Would somebody give a botanical identification please ?http://www.ipfsaph.org/id/WTOTBTNF036353
yes its chayote