Talk:List of cities in Germany
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My suggestion: Include only those towns, that either have articles or are likely to get an article in the future. That means, a link to Passau is of course okay, while I doubt this for places like Adelmannsfelden or Jagtszell. Remember that the title of the article is "List of cities in Germany". We may talk about a full list of municipalities, if you want to - if we continue to add villages and hamlets to this list, it will grow very, very large. Your opinions? -- Cordyph 11:25 Feb 17, 2003 (UTC)
I agree that muncipalities or even city parts don't belong here - but I think this list should include every entity in germany which has the city rights. However there are then very small cities (e.g. Hallenberg with just 4,744), but there are also muncipalities significantly bigger than this (e.g. Holzweckede with 17,694). Or how about a minimum population cut-off? Or another "list of big cities in Germany" with all cities with more the 100,000? andy 13:24 Feb 18, 2003 (UTC)
When I started this list, I thought it would be the best to include the district-free cities, the district capitals, and maybe some other towns of historical or other significance; but I don't mind to do it your way: include every town having "Stadtrecht" (is there anything like "city rights" in UK or the US?). Probably your proposal is better, since we already have a list of the large cities in List of cities. But this list will grow very big by doing so, and sooner or later we'll have to split it. We should not define a minimum population, because some smaller towns (Lauenburg) are of greater historical significance than some very large towns (Oberhausen). So, the decision is to put every town with "city right" inside, okay? -- Cordyph 17:14 Feb 18, 2003 (UTC)
Bremerhaven
I think you may be a little confused. There are german states, and then there are free city-states (Hanserstadt Frei). To my knowledge, there have only been 3 free city-states: Hamburg, Bremen and Berlin. The cities you have listed as district free may so be, however they are subordinate to a state. Here's an example:
Osterholz-Scharmbeck is a city (stadt) it is subordinate to Kreis Osterholz (a county) which is subordinate to Niedersachsen (Lower Saxony), a state (Laender).
Bremen and Hamburg although located in the state of Lower Saxony, are not subordinate to Lower Saxony because they are free city-states. Bremerhaven, which you have listed under Bremen, is a city-district and although it is not subordinate to a Kries (County) it is subordinate to the State of Lower Saxony.
- ???? I don't see your point. You tell me nothing new. Osterholz-Scharmbeck, Bremen and Hamburg are exactly listed the way you are describing them. As for Bremerhaven, you are simply wrong. See Bremen (state) for more information - it is not subordinate to Lower Saxony. -- Cordyph 11:47, 19 Oct 2003 (UTC)