Talk:Linear A
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In disambiguating Mapping, I just unlinked it from this page, since it didn't seem be being used in any technical sense. Certainly the use here doesn't match any of the technical sense on that page if it's allowed for a symbol to correspond to more than one sound (as certainly happens in some alphabets). Or (from another POV), Linear A may be a language, but it's not a formal language ^_^. Anyway, if it is being used in a technical sense, then please let me know -- or better yet, add this sense to the Mapping article! -- Toby 23:57 Jan 26, 2003 (UTC)
The article is a bit confused, as it talks about "this decipherment" without actually suggesting any decipherment. (And of course, no decipherments are currently given any credence by mainstream scholars.) -- B.Bryant 06:50 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)
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Linear?
Not being a linguist myself, I'm slightly curious as to why the languages (Linear A and Linear B) are called "Linear". I have read the Linear A and Linear B pages, but none of them explain why they are so named.
Moved from article page
As signed discussion entries are not allowed on the article page, I moved the following addition to the talk page: 217.81.77.103 16:24, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
In Ugarit-Forschungen 2001, published in memoriam of Cyrus Gordon, (a journal edited in Münster in Westfalen) the article "The First Inscription in Punic--Vowel Differences in Linear A and B" demonstrates how and why Linear A notates an archaic form of Phoenician. In the journal Kadmos, Zeitschrift für Vor- und Frühgriechische Epigraphik of 2002 and 2003 one can read how, thanks to the decipherment of Linear A mentioned above, the still older script of Cretan Hieroglyphic can now also be read (in respectively the articles "The Lotus Flower in Cretan Hieroglyphic" and "The Many Faces of jabu-Re and bini-Re"). In October 2004 the book A Luwian Letter to Nestor (Publications of the Henri Frankfort Foundation 14) will appear, in which it is demonstrated that the script on the Phaistos Disc is a 14th-century-BCE form of Cretan Hieroglyphic, its implication, of course, being that also the latter script basically contains a Luwian (South-Anatolian) dialect. Below the old page with the traditional point of view. To it should be added that Michael Ventris deciphered Linear B in 1952, the same year in which Yuri Knorosov (Leningrad) deciphered the Maya script -- and Hillary climbed the Mount Everest!--, that identical signs in Linear A and B differ in this respect that those in Linear B with the Indo-European (in this case Greek) syllabic values e and o mostly contain in Linear A the Semitic values i and u respectively, that by just reading them in this way the assumed mystery of Linear A has been solved, and that at Figeac (Lot, France) for June 2006 the opening is planned of a new museum with the decipherments of ancient scripts all over the world, which will be a large extension of the former, marvelous museum Champollion which will be incorporated in it. In 2003 the famous Hellenist A. Bartonek has published his Grammatik des mykenischen Griechisch, in which he praises the Linear A approach since 1972 by the undersigned, which in the NRC Handelsblad of 12 & 13 January 2001 the Dutch Hellenist Kees Ruygh and the Dutch Assyriologist Wilfred van Soldt have rejected completely. Jan Best, Amsterdam, The Netherlands (after reading the above articles and book, address of correspondence available via the editors of Ugarit-Forschungen and/or Kadmos)
category:Hellenic scripts
I don't think this article belongs to that category:
- This category should include all forms of writing Greek,
Linear A is considered not to be a form of Greek, although roughly the same script was later used for writing Greek in Linear B. Bogdan | Talk 18:51, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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- (...) although this comes in direct contrast with the fact that the Minoan and the Mycenaean civilizations share the same art, technology and architecture, which leads us safely to the conclusion that they must be one and the same, simply in a different phase; and since the Mycenaean civilization (which, as stated, seems to be an evolution of the Minoan) is known as Greek, then it is most safe to presume that the Linear A is an even more ancient Greek scripture, which agrees with Paul Faure's (and others') claims of the Linear A being a very early Greek scripture that was adapted in each case to the local dialect.
pseudo-scientific nonsense :-)
An external link
Anonymous user 212.205.99.178 keeps adding a link to http://www.ancientgr.com which is a pile of uh-uh... silly things. Actually it's a funny as hell gem, http://www.ancientgr.com/Unknown_Hellenic_History/Eng/HELLENIC_LANGUAGE.htm <look at this.] :-) Bogdan | Talk 21:20, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)