Talk:Green Berets
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Unit name
The unit's official name is the "United States Army Special Forces". Please, do not move this article to "Green Berets"; that article is supposed to be pointing to this one (as it is right now).
--Maio 05:40, 10 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(common_names) - "Green Berets" is the common name, so this article should be located there. --Jiang 01:59, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- Yeah, it is the common name.. among Americans and other military developed countries. But in other countries, like for example in Latin America, guerillas use green berets as their head caps, and people refer to them as "Green Berets" — from the spanish translation of "boinas verdes". That is the very reason why the Army officialy changed their names to "Special Forces", to avoid any links to revolutionary guerrillas. Anyways, Green Berets redirect to this article, and in the article summary it is explained that their are also called like that. If you still beleive that it should be moved, then do so, but I will not agree with the decision (although I will not move it back). --Maio 05:02, Jan 13, 2004 (UTC)
I don't think it will be confusing if we move it there, as long was we keep the current bolded title in the text. A note about the name change should be added to the article. What about Night Stalkers? --Jiang 00:35, 14 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- Same POV: I don't agree with it, but if you wanna do it feel free to do so.. as long as we keep the current bolded text of the article. ;0) --Maio 09:50, Jan 14, 2004 (UTC)
Headgear:the green beret
Today I added information about Kennedy and decided to move the paragraph about the Royal Marines before the mention of the Rangers, because with the addition of the Kennedy paragraph there is far more on U.S. Army Special Forces than the Royal Marines in this section. Where it was, before I moved it, the Royal Marines paragraph, separated the first U.S. paragraph from the second and (the new) third.
But the alteration that ALoan has made has obscured the information about the Royal Marines of today. I would like to reinstate a separate paragraph about the Royal Marines. As it is much shorter than the information on the US Special Forces I would like to place in before the mention of the Rangers. The reason for doing this is clarity, but as the Royals have been wearing green berets for longer than US forces, it is also follows seniority. Does anyone object to this. If so why Philip Baird Shearer 21:00, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
But to make the change of a change, without an explanation, can start an edit war and life is too short. Philip Baird Shearer 21:22, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining before editing, and for the pointer on my talk page. It is not something that I would go to the wall for, but I just thought that my version was clearer. The article is mainly about the US Special Forces because they are known as the 'green berets' and the Royal Marines generally are not. I just thought it looked a bit odd to refer to the Marines before explaining their link to the US Special Forces. The reference to the Marines' headgear and WWII is really an aside, and, pace your point about seniority, I don't think it needs to come first. Perhaps you disagree. -- ALoan (Talk) 09:48, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
The moving of the section Headgear:the green beret to an article green beret by User:JohnCrawford (exporting information to 'green beret'), makes the talk about this section redundent. Philip Baird Shearer 08:45, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
